Mental state of mind when buying a Mclaren
Discussion
So, as with the other brands the 'Supercar Mist' gets to us all........ (unless we are all as crazy as each other, then we need others to reply 
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The 720S I bought on the way to picking up something from the Mall in Bristol (wasn't even something for me at the time
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BUT, something has to stop, perhaps I need 'special' help, in the last six months I've been offered a carbon Senna at cost by a friend, who ordered it
just under a million - I even got the space ready to park it (other half stepped in with, what if you get a stone chip!!!! - right move too, with the world out of work,
thank you sweetie
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Now on the mission for a 675lt, as i'm working to a budget, it has to be the right car, "the keeper" as we say, I don't want to be a victim of a poor sale,
because the budget, is the budget.
With cars now at £500k into the millions is there a plan that others work to
1. see as many cars as you can - and go back to the best
2 or pay more for the right car when it comes along
If we were buying houses the purchase takes forever - Yet! I bought my forever house in less than 24 hours and I guess I 'm really glad to say its a keeper
)The 720S I bought on the way to picking up something from the Mall in Bristol (wasn't even something for me at the time
)BUT, something has to stop, perhaps I need 'special' help, in the last six months I've been offered a carbon Senna at cost by a friend, who ordered it
just under a million - I even got the space ready to park it (other half stepped in with, what if you get a stone chip!!!! - right move too, with the world out of work,
thank you sweetie
)Now on the mission for a 675lt, as i'm working to a budget, it has to be the right car, "the keeper" as we say, I don't want to be a victim of a poor sale,
because the budget, is the budget.
With cars now at £500k into the millions is there a plan that others work to
1. see as many cars as you can - and go back to the best
2 or pay more for the right car when it comes along
If we were buying houses the purchase takes forever - Yet! I bought my forever house in less than 24 hours and I guess I 'm really glad to say its a keeper
Edited by LordOfTheManor on Tuesday 16th June 10:20
LordOfTheManor said:
How long does the average Mclaren customer 'spend thinking about it' before they commit to a purchase
from 1st glimpse of the 'ad' to handing over the cash?
Is there more to consider when its a Mclaren over lets say Ferrari, Lamborghini ?
Firstly I suspect there are quite a few Mclaren owners who would never consider a Ferrari or Lamborghini sure I can see the crossover but I'm sure I'm not alone in considering those marques as brash, showy, heavy gold necklace brands..... Mclaren has appeal beyond these particularly for us Brits, whilst yes it's showy it's in a different more techy and acceptable way because it is proper form meets function. Maybe I'm just trying to convince myself that I don't look a flash tw@t, a la F and L drivers, smoking around in a 720 from 1st glimpse of the 'ad' to handing over the cash?
Is there more to consider when its a Mclaren over lets say Ferrari, Lamborghini ?
As for your question, I had some cash burning a hole and visited the Mcl showroom, at that time the differences between the 675LT and 570S they had in stock had to be pointed out to me.... I bought the 570S that day, found getting in and out of the 675 too onerous (for a DD) and also the newer tub and tech won the day. The 570 was and is a great car and only the need to sample the Super Series and even better usability prompted the order for a new 720.
TB993tt said:
LordOfTheManor said:
How long does the average Mclaren customer 'spend thinking about it' before they commit to a purchase
from 1st glimpse of the 'ad' to handing over the cash?
Is there more to consider when its a Mclaren over lets say Ferrari, Lamborghini ?
Firstly I suspect there are quite a few Mclaren owners who would never consider a Ferrari or Lamborghini sure I can see the crossover but I'm sure I'm not alone in considering those marques as brash, showy, heavy gold necklace brands..... Mclaren has appeal beyond these particularly for us Brits, whilst yes it's showy it's in a different more techy and acceptable way because it is proper form meets function. Maybe I'm just trying to convince myself that I don't look a flash tw@t, a la F and L drivers, smoking around in a 720 from 1st glimpse of the 'ad' to handing over the cash?
Is there more to consider when its a Mclaren over lets say Ferrari, Lamborghini ?
As for your question, I had some cash burning a hole and visited the Mcl showroom, at that time the differences between the 675LT and 570S they had in stock had to be pointed out to me.... I bought the 570S that day, found getting in and out of the 675 too onerous (for a DD) and also the newer tub and tech won the day. The 570 was and is a great car and only the need to sample the Super Series and even better usability prompted the order for a new 720.
LordOfTheManor said:
1. see as many cars as you can - and go back to the best
2 or pay more for the right car when it comes along
A bit of yes to both of these. By seeing as many cars as you can, you can compare and contrast the colour, spec and condition of different cars and it will help refine your own personal definition of "perfect spec" so you'll know exactly what you are looking for and what you're willing to compromise on.2 or pay more for the right car when it comes along
Edited by LordOfTheManor on Tuesday 16th June 10:20
As for paying a little more for the right car, I think it's a short term pain that is worth it if the car is intended to be a keeper. Did I overpay for my 964 when I bought it ? Possibly. However, as I've owned it for almost 20 years, that fact doesn't really matter to me.
The question about waiting is entirely personal. I wanted a 458 and did a bunch of research and looked at lots of cars over the back end of last year and earlier this year. In the end I bought the car that best met my spec at a price I was happy to pay and that was available at the time. Is it my perfect spec ? No. Do I regret not waiting for the perfect spec to come along ? No. I've had way more fun in the past 4 months driving the car than waiting for something with a couple of extra options on it !
Good luck with the search - lots of nice cars out there.
Ferruccio said:
You may be over thinking this?
As Yoda said, “Do. Or do not.”
After the last 24 hours I will say that I'm not in the poistion to overthink something thats going to cost £200-250k for the right car,As Yoda said, “Do. Or do not.”
the keeper car as I've said. (sounds like only fools and horses with the keeper watch!
)I bought the 720S new and don't want to loose that amount of money again.
The right purchase will allow me to be the best advert in the world for the company that supplies and services it !
Its a lovely place owning a keeper, much better than always looking to change.....
Have two keepers already
RT964 said:
LordOfTheManor said:
1. see as many cars as you can - and go back to the best
2 or pay more for the right car when it comes along
A bit of yes to both of these. By seeing as many cars as you can, you can compare and contrast the colour, spec and condition of different cars and it will help refine your own personal definition of "perfect spec" so you'll know exactly what you are looking for and what you're willing to compromise on.2 or pay more for the right car when it comes along
Edited by LordOfTheManor on Tuesday 16th June 10:20
As for paying a little more for the right car, I think it's a short term pain that is worth it if the car is intended to be a keeper. Did I overpay for my 964 when I bought it ? Possibly. However, as I've owned it for almost 20 years, that fact doesn't really matter to me.
The question about waiting is entirely personal. I wanted a 458 and did a bunch of research and looked at lots of cars over the back end of last year and earlier this year. In the end I bought the car that best met my spec at a price I was happy to pay and that was available at the time. Is it my perfect spec ? No. Do I regret not waiting for the perfect spec to come along ? No. I've had way more fun in the past 4 months driving the car than waiting for something with a couple of extra options on it !
Good luck with the search - lots of nice cars out there.
I too have 25 years of 911 ownership under the belt, they were amazing cars
Hope you've kept the 964, its probably worth a lot more now than you paid for it
Interesting question. But for me it’s more the “state of mind when buying another supercar”. This has to do with whether the money goes to another that’s incrementally different, or add funds to my NGO.
But if your question has to do with concerns about depreciation, value etc. over the drive - then I would say just put your money to better use elsewhere.
But if your question has to do with concerns about depreciation, value etc. over the drive - then I would say just put your money to better use elsewhere.
When I decided the time was right to buy a McLaren it wasn't because it was a supercar. A Ferrari / Lamborghini were never in consideration and never will be, to me a McLaren is a proper British Supercar from an F1 constructor so I never really spent time thinking about something else as there was nothing else. I looked at a couple of 12C's then bought one as soon as the right colour / spec / price combo appeared.
Of course what I really wanted was a 675LT but it took 2 years of looking and chatting to owners about specs and ownership experience before I found the car in the right colour / spec / price combo. When I saw the car for sale I pounced and bought it. I did drive up to Manchester for a test drive just to make sure but nothing was going to stop me as I knew my spec would not come along again for a while, perhaps even a year or 2. As soon as I bought it I was contacted by 2 prospective owners who had also been pondering over my car but waited and procrastinated. Both offered to buy it off me for a small profit my way, naturally I declined.
If it's the car for you, you will already know it and feel it. Its just a case then of waiting for the right car, that time will vary as your ideal spec may be for sale right now or you may never see it. I wanted Delta red, however I found out there is only 1 in the UK and the CEO of McLaren owns it as his personal car so that's never going to happen!
So to answer your question when I saw the right car advertised my deposit was paid within 15 minutes on a phone call.....
Of course what I really wanted was a 675LT but it took 2 years of looking and chatting to owners about specs and ownership experience before I found the car in the right colour / spec / price combo. When I saw the car for sale I pounced and bought it. I did drive up to Manchester for a test drive just to make sure but nothing was going to stop me as I knew my spec would not come along again for a while, perhaps even a year or 2. As soon as I bought it I was contacted by 2 prospective owners who had also been pondering over my car but waited and procrastinated. Both offered to buy it off me for a small profit my way, naturally I declined.
If it's the car for you, you will already know it and feel it. Its just a case then of waiting for the right car, that time will vary as your ideal spec may be for sale right now or you may never see it. I wanted Delta red, however I found out there is only 1 in the UK and the CEO of McLaren owns it as his personal car so that's never going to happen!
So to answer your question when I saw the right car advertised my deposit was paid within 15 minutes on a phone call.....
Edited by Bispal on Tuesday 16th June 13:12
Ferruccio said:
You may be over thinking this?
As Yoda said, “Do. Or do not.”
This. It really is nothing more than it. As Yoda said, “Do. Or do not.”
I’ve lost money on my 650, or to be correct, I *spent* money on my 650. But in doing so I got to make some great friends in the owners club and moved on to a 675.
Overall this has meant spending quite a bit of money by most people’s standards, but it is just that. You spend what you can afford and you gain an experience, both ups and downs.
I’ve not heard of anyone having a 675 horror story and know 40+ other UK owners. People have problems sure, they address them and move on.
If your concern is purely financial, but you can afford to be spending 200k, right now I’d advise not thinking of a car, wait for the next dip in the stock market and invest for the long term.
LordOfTheManor said:
Very Wise Words - they come from your years of 911 ownership I bet
I too have 25 years of 911 ownership under the belt, they were amazing cars
Hope you've kept the 964, its probably worth a lot more now than you paid for it
Ha ha, yes very much still owned and appreciating, even in these strange times !I too have 25 years of 911 ownership under the belt, they were amazing cars
Hope you've kept the 964, its probably worth a lot more now than you paid for it
12pack said:
Interesting question. But for me it’s more the “state of mind when buying another supercar”. This has to do with whether the money goes to another that’s incrementally different, or add funds to my NGO.
But if your question has to do with concerns about depreciation, value etc. over the drive - then I would say just put your money to better use elsewhere.
I take on what you have said but my hands are tied contractually at the moment so I'm restricted in what I can do......But if your question has to do with concerns about depreciation, value etc. over the drive - then I would say just put your money to better use elsewhere.
so I have cars around me, But one of them, the 720S was never a keeper
so my plan was to buy originally a Ferrari F8/488 having sold my Speciale
But then my mind went from that to a 675LT
Edited by LordOfTheManor on Tuesday 16th June 16:25
jamieo said:
This. It really is nothing more than it.
I’ve lost money on my 650, or to be correct, I *spent* money on my 650. But in doing so I got to make some great friends in the owners club and moved on to a 675.
Overall this has meant spending quite a bit of money by most people’s standards, but it is just that. You spend what you can afford and you gain an experience, both ups and downs.
I’ve not heard of anyone having a 675 horror story and know 40+ other UK owners. People have problems sure, they address them and move on.
If your concern is purely financial, but you can afford to be spending 200k, right now I’d advise not thinking of a car, wait for the next dip in the stock market and invest for the long term.
My investments are on going but they don't fill the empty garage that i'm looking at !I’ve lost money on my 650, or to be correct, I *spent* money on my 650. But in doing so I got to make some great friends in the owners club and moved on to a 675.
Overall this has meant spending quite a bit of money by most people’s standards, but it is just that. You spend what you can afford and you gain an experience, both ups and downs.
I’ve not heard of anyone having a 675 horror story and know 40+ other UK owners. People have problems sure, they address them and move on.
If your concern is purely financial, but you can afford to be spending 200k, right now I’d advise not thinking of a car, wait for the next dip in the stock market and invest for the long term.
12pack said:
Interesting question. But for me it’s more the “state of mind when buying another supercar”. This has to do with whether the money goes to another that’s incrementally different, or add funds to my NGO.
But if your question has to do with concerns about depreciation, value etc. over the drive - then I would say just put your money to better use elsewhere.
I love my cars it's not about money, if you love them it doesn't matterBut if your question has to do with concerns about depreciation, value etc. over the drive - then I would say just put your money to better use elsewhere.
but I can only love them like prize possessions that why they have to be the right cars
I'm just sad I guess
For me I was set on a McLaren for at least two yrs before I got one more to do with waiting for them to come into my budget (570s) than anything. I started monitoring the mkt properly in early 2019 with Autotrader alerts to see how much cars were going for and how long they were staying on the mkt. That gave me a good feel for things so that when I really started looking in Aug last yr I was able to spot the cars that looked like decent value. It still took me 4 months to get the right car with desired colour and spec but when it popped up I didn't waste any time and had my deposit down on same day as the ad appeared...best car I've ever owned and the ownership experience so far has been well worth the money.
LordOfTheManor said:
I love my cars it's not about money, if you love them it doesn't matter
but I can only love them like prize possessions that why they have to be the right cars
I’m with you there. All the more important to spring for the right one so you don’t fret about changing for another or losing value, and put the rest of your funds to do good!but I can only love them like prize possessions that why they have to be the right cars
RSbandit said:
For me I was set on a McLaren for at least two yrs before I got one more to do with waiting for them to come into my budget (570s) than anything. I started monitoring the mkt properly in early 2019 with Autotrader alerts to see how much cars were going for and how long they were staying on the mkt. That gave me a good feel for things so that when I really started looking in Aug last yr I was able to spot the cars that looked like decent value. It still took me 4 months to get the right car with desired colour and spec but when it popped up I didn't waste any time and had my deposit down on same day as the ad appeared...best car I've ever owned and the ownership experience so far has been well worth the money.
I admire your patient in waiting! something I struggle with, my father had my share, he was amazing!Your well thought out plan has probably saved you a fortune and the fairy tale was obtained at the end, the perfect purchase I guess
Tell me - what colour did you go for ?
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