Stepping up to a Mclaren?
Discussion
650spider said:
This is the current price issue...'similar money' just now.
I don't think that the numbers available for 540 & 570 variants shall see the 'similar price' remaining.
I feel as though what the perceived extra costs involved in the extended warranty shall be far less than the price difference between the asking price of a 12c / 650 compared to 540 / 570 in a few years time, so in theory, a 540 / 570 may actually cost you more in the long run.
A good 12c has seemingly settled at high £70k ...i do not think a 540 or 570 shall settle at them prices.
Regardless...they are all mind bogglingly quick cars..none are the 'wrong choice'.
This. I think the 540/570 will drop below the 12C eventually, and keep going. The 12C will always be the first car of ‘new’ McLaren and a Super Series car. Also I think the looks will age very well, Orange with Carbon 12C is going to look great in 5-10 years. I don't think that the numbers available for 540 & 570 variants shall see the 'similar price' remaining.
I feel as though what the perceived extra costs involved in the extended warranty shall be far less than the price difference between the asking price of a 12c / 650 compared to 540 / 570 in a few years time, so in theory, a 540 / 570 may actually cost you more in the long run.
A good 12c has seemingly settled at high £70k ...i do not think a 540 or 570 shall settle at them prices.
Regardless...they are all mind bogglingly quick cars..none are the 'wrong choice'.
Chrisatronic said:
This. I think the 540/570 will drop below the 12C eventually, and keep going. The 12C will always be the first car of ‘new’ McLaren and a Super Series car. Also I think the looks will age very well, Orange with Carbon 12C is going to look great in 5-10 years.
Looks great now. I have one in the garage in exactly that colour and combo. :-) Chrisatronic said:
650spider said:
This is the current price issue...'similar money' just now.
I don't think that the numbers available for 540 & 570 variants shall see the 'similar price' remaining.
I feel as though what the perceived extra costs involved in the extended warranty shall be far less than the price difference between the asking price of a 12c / 650 compared to 540 / 570 in a few years time, so in theory, a 540 / 570 may actually cost you more in the long run.
A good 12c has seemingly settled at high £70k ...i do not think a 540 or 570 shall settle at them prices.
Regardless...they are all mind bogglingly quick cars..none are the 'wrong choice'.
This. I think the 540/570 will drop below the 12C eventually, and keep going. The 12C will always be the first car of ‘new’ McLaren and a Super Series car. Also I think the looks will age very well, Orange with Carbon 12C is going to look great in 5-10 years. I don't think that the numbers available for 540 & 570 variants shall see the 'similar price' remaining.
I feel as though what the perceived extra costs involved in the extended warranty shall be far less than the price difference between the asking price of a 12c / 650 compared to 540 / 570 in a few years time, so in theory, a 540 / 570 may actually cost you more in the long run.
A good 12c has seemingly settled at high £70k ...i do not think a 540 or 570 shall settle at them prices.
Regardless...they are all mind bogglingly quick cars..none are the 'wrong choice'.
I’ve said in other posts that I may have made a mistake in buying the 720S Coupe I now have. I jumped into McOwnership having only really looked at the 570S and 720S, but not considering the 650S because there is so little online about it - TBH, I didn’t know it existed.
If I could turn the clock back, it would be a hard decision not to choose the 650S Spider instead of the 720S. I know that the 720S is a Top Trump card when it comes to performance, but for the price difference versus real-world usability gain, I think the 650S is the real Top Trump.
Has anyone on here gone from a 650S to a 720S?
If I could turn the clock back, it would be a hard decision not to choose the 650S Spider instead of the 720S. I know that the 720S is a Top Trump card when it comes to performance, but for the price difference versus real-world usability gain, I think the 650S is the real Top Trump.
Has anyone on here gone from a 650S to a 720S?
MAC 720S said:
I’ve said in other posts that I may have made a mistake in buying the 720S Coupe I now have. I jumped into McOwnership having only really looked at the 570S and 720S, but not considering the 650S because there is so little online about it - TBH, I didn’t know it existed.
If I could turn the clock back, it would be a hard decision not to choose the 650S Spider instead of the 720S. I know that the 720S is a Top Trump card when it comes to performance, but for the price difference versus real-world usability gain, I think the 650S is the real Top Trump.
Has anyone on here gone from a 650S to a 720S?
Very valid thoughts there MAC.If I could turn the clock back, it would be a hard decision not to choose the 650S Spider instead of the 720S. I know that the 720S is a Top Trump card when it comes to performance, but for the price difference versus real-world usability gain, I think the 650S is the real Top Trump.
Has anyone on here gone from a 650S to a 720S?
I doubt that anybody whom has spent a bit of time in a 650 spider has ever thought that you need more power...even after a decent ownership period i still get surprised how proper insanely fast and capable it is.
At between £90-100k i do not think there is anything comparable on the market, and i feel as though the 12c & 650 shall become sought after mclaren 'classics' in the not too distant future being super series and low numbers available.
I still cannot get my usually excellent man maths part of my brain to give the green light to add near £100k onto my car to get into a 675LT spider after about 6mths of 'considering'....i genuinely cannot see it as £100k all round better, and there are always less 650 spiders than 675LT spiders for sale that answers the 'exclusivity' reason.
I like how i can drive the 650 all day long without feeling uncomfortable with either interior or ride quality like on Thursday when i did a 700 mile trip, and now feel as though the 675 with its minor trade offs such as harsher ride, turning circle etc would maybe turn it into a weekend or special occasion car...i made that mistake before with Ferrari upgrading to a fiorano handling pack car and got fed up using it.
So maybe it means i am stuck with it and the cash i would spent 'upgrading'.
There are worse problems to have i guess.
650spider said:
Very valid thoughts there MAC.
I doubt that anybody whom has spent a bit of time in a 650 spider has ever thought that you need more power...even after a decent ownership period i still get surprised how proper insanely fast and capable it is.
At between £90-100k i do not think there is anything comparable on the market, and i feel as though the 12c & 650 shall become sought after mclaren 'classics' in the not too distant future being super series and low numbers available.
I still cannot get my usually excellent man maths part of my brain to give the green light to add near £100k onto my car to get into a 675LT spider after about 6mths of 'considering'....i genuinely cannot see it as £100k all round better, and there are always less 650 spiders than 675LT spiders for sale that answers the 'exclusivity' reason.
I like how i can drive the 650 all day long without feeling uncomfortable with either interior or ride quality like on Thursday when i did a 700 mile trip, and now feel as though the 675 with its minor trade offs such as harsher ride, turning circle etc would maybe turn it into a weekend or special occasion car...i made that mistake before with Ferrari upgrading to a fiorano handling pack car and got fed up using it.
So maybe it means i am stuck with it and the cash i would spent 'upgrading'.
There are worse problems to have i guess.
Lightweight track specials are usually twice the price as standard cars as a rule of thumb but clearly are never twice the car.I doubt that anybody whom has spent a bit of time in a 650 spider has ever thought that you need more power...even after a decent ownership period i still get surprised how proper insanely fast and capable it is.
At between £90-100k i do not think there is anything comparable on the market, and i feel as though the 12c & 650 shall become sought after mclaren 'classics' in the not too distant future being super series and low numbers available.
I still cannot get my usually excellent man maths part of my brain to give the green light to add near £100k onto my car to get into a 675LT spider after about 6mths of 'considering'....i genuinely cannot see it as £100k all round better, and there are always less 650 spiders than 675LT spiders for sale that answers the 'exclusivity' reason.
I like how i can drive the 650 all day long without feeling uncomfortable with either interior or ride quality like on Thursday when i did a 700 mile trip, and now feel as though the 675 with its minor trade offs such as harsher ride, turning circle etc would maybe turn it into a weekend or special occasion car...i made that mistake before with Ferrari upgrading to a fiorano handling pack car and got fed up using it.
So maybe it means i am stuck with it and the cash i would spent 'upgrading'.
There are worse problems to have i guess.
However its that extra 20% that make the difference and defines the car in my experience.
I debated for about 2 years upgrading my F430 spider to a 430 Scuderia and in that time the actual price gap increased to over double. When I eventually did it I was amazed at the difference, it seemed a totally different car and was well worth the difference. My only regret was I didn't do it earlier as it effectively cost me another £30k.
If you are using a 650S daily and just pootling around I agree its not worth the extra but if you like weekend spirited / fun driving its a must IMHO. Standard cars bore me very quickly hence everything I own and buy is track focussed even though they are only used on the road.
650S spider is terriffic value for money and is now appealing to a far wider market due to its price point so I'm not surprised many are for sale but that does not make them exclusive as there are over 200 RHD UK 650S spiders and yet circa 40 675LT spiders. The only drawback of a 675LT for me would be the smaller turn circle but hey as far as comfort and performance its a real Jekyll and Hyde car. I might be biased as its a car I'm looking to buy but I could have a 650S spider tomorrow for cash and haven't even considered it TBH, I only want a LT and will have to save a little harder or sell the wife and kids
Best car video on youtube below should convince anyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msu23raltng
WilliamWaiver said:
Except he can’t really drive. Was in a track day stuck behind him once....12pack said:
Well, I’m certainly not an ace.
It’s just that if people are going to comment on performance cars, you would like to think they know about the racing line, braking points and carrying speed into corners.
I agree if its re track driving but on a public road driving safely its not so relevant.It’s just that if people are going to comment on performance cars, you would like to think they know about the racing line, braking points and carrying speed into corners.
A few on track lessons can make most people better drivers though.
Tony from Gravelwoods has become a far better driver with lessons and more experience on track.
I've done a few supercar manufacturers track days along with a number of advance road driving courses but don't profess to be an expert.
Always makes me laugh when these reviewers go on about trail braking and slinging the back end out whilst driving on a public road, seriously
SELON said:
£85k would stretch to a 650S coupe. But my preference would be the Mc Orange 12C with the MSO front at Alastair Bols.
Not so sureThis is my old 650, its in great condition with paint correction and PPF from new, full dealer service history etc.
It's been with them for over a year now, I suspect the mileage is putting some off but most of it has been motorway mileage around Europe.
I suspect they would take a £90k cheeky offer.
https://gvelondon.com/cars/mclaren-650s-spider-201...
mikey k said:
SELON said:
£85k would stretch to a 650S coupe. But my preference would be the Mc Orange 12C with the MSO front at Alastair Bols.
Not so sureThis is my old 650, its in great condition with paint correction and PPF from new, full dealer service history etc.
It's been with them for over a year now, I suspect the mileage is putting some off but most of it has been motorway mileage around Europe.
I suspect they would take a £90k cheeky offer.
https://gvelondon.com/cars/mclaren-650s-spider-201...
mikey k said:
Not so sure
This is my old 650, its in great condition with paint correction and PPF from new, full dealer service history etc.
It's been with them for over a year now, I suspect the mileage is putting some off but most of it has been motorway mileage around Europe.
I suspect they would take a £90k cheeky offer.
https://gvelondon.com/cars/mclaren-650s-spider-201...
The “478 bhp” engine and the missing tow eye cover in the photos put me off more than the mileage This is my old 650, its in great condition with paint correction and PPF from new, full dealer service history etc.
It's been with them for over a year now, I suspect the mileage is putting some off but most of it has been motorway mileage around Europe.
I suspect they would take a £90k cheeky offer.
https://gvelondon.com/cars/mclaren-650s-spider-201...
. I then see the wheels and brakes don’t match the description and loose interest.(The mileage wouldn’t put me off at all, almost 50k km on my coupe when I sold it.)
mikey k said:
Not so sure
This is my old 650, its in great condition with paint correction and PPF from new, full dealer service history etc.
It's been with them for over a year now, I suspect the mileage is putting some off but most of it has been motorway mileage around Europe.
I suspect they would take a £90k cheeky offer.
https://gvelondon.com/cars/mclaren-650s-spider-201...
Car looks great but out of my budget unfortunately This is my old 650, its in great condition with paint correction and PPF from new, full dealer service history etc.
It's been with them for over a year now, I suspect the mileage is putting some off but most of it has been motorway mileage around Europe.
I suspect they would take a £90k cheeky offer.
https://gvelondon.com/cars/mclaren-650s-spider-201...
Having looked around at a few sites/dealers recently it amazes me how many poorly worded and wrong spec adverts there are when selling such a high end product! Apparently this car has "Carbin Fibre Central Console" and "478 BHP". Theres another Ad somewhere on Autotrader or here and the Mclaren advertised is apparently 4WD. I know they are just typos but really just a little bit of care!
JerryDXB said:
The “478 bhp” engine and the missing tow eye cover in the photos put me off more than the mileage . I then see the wheels and brakes don’t match the description and loose interest.
(The mileage wouldn’t put me off at all, almost 50k km on my coupe when I sold it.)
I'm fully in agreement with this comment! I'd not want to engage with a dealer that wants to take more than £80k from me and the Ad is not right or the car is poorly prepped for the pictures! I can live with it if it's a private individual but the reflection on a company is pretty poor in my eyes?. I then see the wheels and brakes don’t match the description and loose interest.(The mileage wouldn’t put me off at all, almost 50k km on my coupe when I sold it.)
mikey k said:
SELON said:
£85k would stretch to a 650S coupe. But my preference would be the Mc Orange 12C with the MSO front at Alastair Bols.
Not so sureThis is my old 650, its in great condition with paint correction and PPF from new, full dealer service history etc.
It's been with them for over a year now, I suspect the mileage is putting some off but most of it has been motorway mileage around Europe.
I suspect they would take a £90k cheeky offer.
https://gvelondon.com/cars/mclaren-650s-spider-201...
Mileage just seems normal to me, good to have a McLaren (any car) with a few miles than too few miles.
So much car for these prices really, when compared to the alternatives.
JerryDXB said:
The “478 bhp” engine and the missing tow eye cover in the photos put me off more than the mileage . I then see the wheels and brakes don’t match the description and loose interest.
(The mileage wouldn’t put me off at all, almost 50k km on my coupe when I sold it.)
All of those point as just them getting the description wrong. I had that car from new and did over 20k miles in it. If I didn't have the 675 I'd have kept it. It is tempting to low ball them to buy it back!. I then see the wheels and brakes don’t match the description and loose interest.(The mileage wouldn’t put me off at all, almost 50k km on my coupe when I sold it.)
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