Stepping up to a Mclaren?

[mikey k]

bennno said:

If its been with them a year I'd have it back and stick it up privately for 80k

They own it, it's not on SOR.
They paid me significantly more

[WilliamWaiver]

Wasnt it up for £130k initially a year ago which was a bit strong for the mileage at the time.
The colour and wheels are gorgeous but I think its the miles holding it back

[mikey k]

WilliamWaiver said:

Wasnt it up for £130k initially a year ago which was a bit strong for the mileage at the time.
The colour and wheels are gorgeous but I think its the miles holding it back

It was
I think you are right on the mileage
Shame as it was pampered and well looked after from new by me, so one owner.

[WilliamWaiver]

mikey k said:

It was
I think you are right on the mileage
Shame as it was pampered and well looked after from new by me, so one owner.

Yeah I bet and any niggles would of been well and truly sorted out in warranty.
Beware the garage queen.
Average 4,000 miles p a on these cars is nothing and better for the car in reality

[RSbandit]

20k miles on a 5 yo car is nothing my prev Aston was up to 28k after 4.5 yrs and it sold within a week at Redline.

[Smoothound]

bennno said:

If its been with them a year I'd have it back and stick it up privately for 80k

To be fair at £80k I'd be tempted but still over what I want to buy into a Mclaren for really. At the asking price it's too much for me!!

[bennno]

Smoothound said:

bennno said:

If its been with them a year I'd have it back and stick it up privately for 80k

To be fair at £80k I'd be tempted but still over what I want to buy into a Mclaren for really. At the asking price it's too much for me!!

Sounds like you might be looking at wrong brand, if purchase means trying to buy oldest / cheapest. I think with these a bad one bought cheaply could ultimately be very expensive.

[Smoothound]

bennno said:

Sounds like you might be looking at wrong brand, if purchase means trying to buy oldest / cheapest. I think with these a bad one bought cheaply could ultimately be very expensive.

Yeah I get that! It's hard to decide what is good or bad certainly with 12C's when most are still warranted by Mclaren and the price spread is 3 years and around £30K. As I've said previously the 650S is outside my budget but at £80 I'd possibly stretch given the other posters provenance. It's a lottery currently! I can buy a far newer car but then they are said to be poorer build than a late 12C but further up the warranty ladder, then there's the holy grail of the 650S! Who knows!

[mikey k]

Smoothound said:

bennno said:

Sounds like you might be looking at wrong brand, if purchase means trying to buy oldest / cheapest. I think with these a bad one bought cheaply could ultimately be very expensive.

Yeah I get that! It's hard to decide what is good or bad certainly with 12C's when most are still warranted by Mclaren and the price spread is 3 years and around £30K. As I've said previously the 650S is outside my budget but at £80 I'd possibly stretch given the other posters provenance. It's a lottery currently! I can buy a far newer car but then they are said to be poorer build than a late 12C but further up the warranty ladder, then there's the holy grail of the 650S! Who knows!

I think you are reading too much in to what you hear on the interweb.
As with every other brand the later cars in a model tend to be better built and better resolved.
Before I bought my 650 I was set on as 12C. I drove both and much preferred the changes in the 650. The suspension was better and the whole car just felt better resolved. I moved on to a 675 from the 650 and found that also a better built car and very different character.
I know the internet is full of comments and chinese whispers about McLaren build quality. My 650 and 675 have both been better built than any other car I've had in 3 decades.
I know guys who have suffered the "corrosion" issue, a couple of which had exactly that the same issue with modern Astons. I know the sports series suffer from it more than the others. Not heard of it on a 650/12C.
BTW just FYI that VR 650 had 3 days of paint correction and Xpel Ultimate all over before it went near a road, all in it cost me £210k so it is a bargain for a one owner pampered car this is coming up to 5 years old

[JerryDXB]

mikey k said:

JerryDXB said:

The “478 bhp” engine and the missing tow eye cover in the photos put me off more than the mileage . I then see the wheels and brakes don’t match the description and loose interest.

(The mileage wouldn’t put me off at all, almost 50k km on my coupe when I sold it.)

All of those point as just them getting the description wrong. I had that car from new and did over 20k miles in it. If I didn't have the 675 I'd have kept it. It is tempting to low ball them to buy it back!

My comments were directed at the dealer rather than the car you spec’d (and were only semi serious, hence the smiley). I’ve looked at that ad a few times (even before you mentioned it) and, if the car had an alcantara interior, I would be tempted with a cheeky bid. The mileage would not bother me at all ... I agree with what you say later, my 650S was one of the better built and more reliable cars I have owned (I could not say this about the 12Cs). If I could replace the car I sold when I left the UAE with an exact equivalent but RHD version for the same price here in the UK then I’d most likely already be back in the McLaren family.

[bennno]

mikey k said:

Smoothound said:

bennno said:

Sounds like you might be looking at wrong brand, if purchase means trying to buy oldest / cheapest. I think with these a bad one bought cheaply could ultimately be very expensive.

Yeah I get that! It's hard to decide what is good or bad certainly with 12C's when most are still warranted by Mclaren and the price spread is 3 years and around £30K. As I've said previously the 650S is outside my budget but at £80 I'd possibly stretch given the other posters provenance. It's a lottery currently! I can buy a far newer car but then they are said to be poorer build than a late 12C but further up the warranty ladder, then there's the holy grail of the 650S! Who knows!

I think you are reading too much in to what you hear on the interweb.
As with every other brand the later cars in a model tend to be better built and better resolved.
Before I bought my 650 I was set on as 12C. I drove both and much preferred the changes in the 650. The suspension was better and the whole car just felt better resolved. I moved on to a 675 from the 650 and found that also a better built car and very different character.
I know the internet is full of comments and chinese whispers about McLaren build quality. My 650 and 675 have both been better built than any other car I've had in 3 decades.
I know guys who have suffered the "corrosion" issue, a couple of which had exactly that the same issue with modern Astons. I know the sports series suffer from it more than the others. Not heard of it on a 650/12C.
BTW just FYI that VR 650 had 3 days of paint correction and Xpel Ultimate all over before it went near a road, all in it cost me £210k so it is a bargain for a one owner pampered car this is coming up to 5 years old

You have just confirmed my point in your second sentence.

[WilliamWaiver]

650spider said:

Very valid thoughts there MAC.

I doubt that anybody whom has spent a bit of time in a 650 spider has ever thought that you need more power...even after a decent ownership period i still get surprised how proper insanely fast and capable it is.

At between £90-100k i do not think there is anything comparable on the market, and i feel as though the 12c & 650 shall become sought after mclaren 'classics' in the not too distant future being super series and low numbers available.

I still cannot get my usually excellent man maths part of my brain to give the green light to add near £100k onto my car to get into a 675LT spider after about 6mths of 'considering'....i genuinely cannot see it as £100k all round better, and there are always less 650 spiders than 675LT spiders for sale that answers the 'exclusivity' reason.

I like how i can drive the 650 all day long without feeling uncomfortable with either interior or ride quality like on Thursday when i did a 700 mile trip, and now feel as though the 675 with its minor trade offs such as harsher ride, turning circle etc would maybe turn it into a weekend or special occasion car...i made that mistake before with Ferrari upgrading to a fiorano handling pack car and got fed up using it.

So maybe it means i am stuck with it and the cash i would spent 'upgrading'.

There are worse problems to have i guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP2Rhg-aTZ8

[mikey k]

JerryDXB said:

mikey k said:

JerryDXB said:

The “478 bhp” engine and the missing tow eye cover in the photos put me off more than the mileage . I then see the wheels and brakes don’t match the description and loose interest.

(The mileage wouldn’t put me off at all, almost 50k km on my coupe when I sold it.)

All of those point as just them getting the description wrong. I had that car from new and did over 20k miles in it. If I didn't have the 675 I'd have kept it. It is tempting to low ball them to buy it back!

My comments were directed at the dealer rather than the car you spec’d (and were only semi serious, hence the smiley). I’ve looked at that ad a few times (even before you mentioned it) and, if the car had an alcantara interior, I would be tempted with a cheeky bid. The mileage would not bother me at all ... I agree with what you say later, my 650S was one of the better built and more reliable cars I have owned (I could not say this about the 12Cs). If I could replace the car I sold when I left the UAE with an exact equivalent but RHD version for the same price here in the UK then I’d most likely already be back in the McLaren family.

We purposely speced the upgraded semi aniline all leather.
On a 5k miles 3 week road trip, with the roof down most the time, the interior ends up a right mess.
With leather it just wipes off.
Alcantara it gets in to the pile and makes it look old very quickly.
Each to their own, just a practical decision we made.

[650spider]

mikey k said:

We purposely speced the upgraded semi aniline all leather.
On a 5k miles 3 week road trip, with the roof down most the time, the interior ends up a right mess.
With leather it just wipes off.
Alcantara it gets in to the pile and makes it look old very quickly.
Each to their own, just a practical decision we made.

I see it differently.

My 650 spider has 30k miles on it and the full alcantara interior probably looks as new as the day it came out of the factory...Inc the steering wheel.

It is used almost daily and the roof is down every journey unless it is raining.

The way the alcantara glues you into position and is neither hot nor cold regardless of the weather is fantastic...also no 'dashboard glare' from the windscreen is also very handy.

I would not consider a McLaren without full alcantara now.

Fully agree with the comments about miles...these cars just get better and better with miles and it cannot be a coincidence that I have no issues or niggles with my 650 and mileage compared to cars that seem problematic when 5 years old with 4k miles.

The mileage would not put me off the VR car at all.

Lack of exterior carbon, alcantara and painted side intakes would though...it is a buyers market and regardless what people post, buyers want the highest possible spec...advert lists very little options.

Volcano cars look at their best with the black carbon contrasting the stunning colour.

[anonymous-user]

mikey k said:

We purposely speced the upgraded semi aniline all leather.
On a 5k miles 3 week road trip, with the roof down most the time, the interior ends up a right mess.
With leather it just wipes off.
Alcantara it gets in to the pile and makes it look old very quickly.
Each to their own, just a practical decision we made.

I’m on the same wavelength. Long distance driving has the inevitable risks of Crisps, chocolate, Coke (the drink) and all manner of snacks and drink getting into the Alcantara. Having these leather buckets fitted to the 720S in a couple of weeks.

[mikey k]

Those seats are brilliant
I have them in my 675 and they were in the 720 used on a Pure day at Silverstone.
I'd have them over Senna seats anytime.

[tyrrell]

You can’t beat the P1 buckets

[tyrrell]

[RSbandit]

MAC 720S said:

I’m on the same wavelength. Long distance driving has the inevitable risks of Crisps, chocolate, Coke (the drink) and all manner of snacks and drink getting into the Alcantara. Having these leather buckets fitted to the 720S in a couple of weeks.

How much were these if you don't mind me asking...standard seats are decent already tbh but would really like the P1 buckets for mine.

[WilliamWaiver]

Leather outer and alcantara inners for me in the P1 seats, best of both worlds

Really comfy seat combined with a perfect driving position. Alcantara centres means you don't slide at all. Crisps and chocolates are forbidden in any of my cars, if you want to eat go to a restaurant