Which is the most "fun" McLaren to drive?
Discussion
Streetbeat said:
So a lot of love for the 600LT on here, mostly from 600LT owners not surprisingly, so from a Mclaren owner (570s) of 6 months to other Mclaren owners, being the only other Mclaren ive driven is a 720s and on the radar and therefore in 600LT budget, i am really struggling to see how 30hp and some stiffer springs makes the 600LT the night and day driving experience over a 570s as it sounds on here (not taking into account looks or spider as prefer coupes), can you please educate or elaborate for me please.
I don't think anyone has said its night and day different to a 570S, I certainly don't think so, but it feels sharper and a bit more nimble. With the right options, the LT is 96kg lighter which helps. GT3ZZZ said:
Should have added that I prefer the suspension on the 600 v 675, more feel and feedback at the expense of the slightly better trick system on the Super Series.
I’ve learnt through experience that this “feedback” is really just limited capability with twitchiness under braking and the inability to keep all four corners planted. You get the same in most Fezza’s . Super series suspension for me any day.Streetbeat said:
So a lot of love for the 600LT on here, mostly from 600LT owners not surprisingly, so from a Mclaren owner (570s) of 6 months to other Mclaren owners, being the only other Mclaren ive driven is a 720s and on the radar and therefore in 600LT budget, i am really struggling to see how 30hp and some stiffer springs makes the 600LT the night and day driving experience over a 570s as it sounds on here (not taking into account looks or spider as prefer coupes), can you please educate or elaborate for me please.
As you know, I went from my 570s to a 600LT and it is most definitely a night and day situation.Amplified more so going from Coupe to Spider.
If you spent an hour in a 600LT Spider, getting back in your 570s would feel like getting back in a mundane daily hack Merc or similar........
GT3ZZZ said:
I don't think anyone has said its night and day different to a 570S, I certainly don't think so, but it feels sharper and a bit more nimble. With the right options, the LT is 96kg lighter which helps.
I have the track pack so already a little lighter (25kg) than std 570 but not near 600LT obviously, i would love and will drive a 600LT, but after driving the 720s with std seats, the P1 buckets in my 570s made for a much more direct and pleasing experience, i wonder if this is part of the 600LT experience as they all have the p1 or senna seats? I also think i read somewhere the steering rack is a little quicker in the 600lt comapred to 570s?I actually preferred my 570s drive to the 720s, the steering in the 720s felt slower and didnt feel as light on its feet, but i think the 720s looks better and more hp, real world problems eh...hope i can have a decent drive in a 600LT at some point before i decide which way to jump.
I have standard sports seats in my 600LT Spider which are great if you're not tracking it much but at Silverstone recently they showed their limitations, buckets or Senna's would have been a lot better.
I came from a 570S Coupe and the 600LT is a far greater experience all round albeit not really any faster on the road but much more visceral and feels a lot lighter on it's feet. You need to drive one to understand why owners tend to rave about them. I've just been out this afternoon after a couple of months and it is the same brilliant event as it's always been since day 1.
I came from a 570S Coupe and the 600LT is a far greater experience all round albeit not really any faster on the road but much more visceral and feels a lot lighter on it's feet. You need to drive one to understand why owners tend to rave about them. I've just been out this afternoon after a couple of months and it is the same brilliant event as it's always been since day 1.
Crazy4557 said:
I have standard sports seats in my 600LT Spider which are great if you're not tracking it much but at Silverstone recently they showed their limitations, buckets or Senna's would have been a lot better.
I came from a 570S Coupe and the 600LT is a far greater experience all round albeit not really any faster on the road but much more visceral and feels a lot lighter on it's feet. You need to drive one to understand why owners tend to rave about them. I've just been out this afternoon after a couple of months and it is the same brilliant event as it's always been since day 1.
I am defintely looking forward to the opportunity. Apologies, i may have come accross all wrong, i am not doubting they are a better drive, i am just trying to gauage why owners say the expeirence is so different to a 570s, as Sarnie says, night and day.I came from a 570S Coupe and the 600LT is a far greater experience all round albeit not really any faster on the road but much more visceral and feels a lot lighter on it's feet. You need to drive one to understand why owners tend to rave about them. I've just been out this afternoon after a couple of months and it is the same brilliant event as it's always been since day 1.
Sarnie said:
As you know, I went from my 570s to a 600LT and it is most definitely a night and day situation.
Amplified more so going from Coupe to Spider.
If you spent an hour in a 600LT Spider, getting back in your 570s would feel like getting back in a mundane daily hack Merc or similar........
I wouldnt doubt a 600LT is a more visceral experience than a 570s and would indeed be a car I would consider next..but to compare a 570s to a daily hack rep mobile is utter nonsense..we're all fans of the brand and the cars here I think your comment is a bit dismissive and insulting to owners of a 570s...free to make it of course but not in the spirit of the general chat here cheers! BTW your car looks outstanding in Papaya spark great colour.Amplified more so going from Coupe to Spider.
If you spent an hour in a 600LT Spider, getting back in your 570s would feel like getting back in a mundane daily hack Merc or similar........
Edited by RSbandit on Saturday 4th December 17:25
Edited by RSbandit on Saturday 4th December 19:45
Streetbeat said:
Crazy4557 said:
I have standard sports seats in my 600LT Spider which are great if you're not tracking it much but at Silverstone recently they showed their limitations, buckets or Senna's would have been a lot better.
I came from a 570S Coupe and the 600LT is a far greater experience all round albeit not really any faster on the road but much more visceral and feels a lot lighter on it's feet. You need to drive one to understand why owners tend to rave about them. I've just been out this afternoon after a couple of months and it is the same brilliant event as it's always been since day 1.
I am defintely looking forward to the opportunity. Apologies, i may have come accross all wrong, i am not doubting they are a better drive, i am just trying to gauage why owners say the expeirence is so different to a 570s, as Sarnie says, night and day.I came from a 570S Coupe and the 600LT is a far greater experience all round albeit not really any faster on the road but much more visceral and feels a lot lighter on it's feet. You need to drive one to understand why owners tend to rave about them. I've just been out this afternoon after a couple of months and it is the same brilliant event as it's always been since day 1.
600LT is raw at its core. Visceral experience, stiff engine mounts, way louder, vibrations everywhere, composed and stiff ride. And bloody hell, the exhaust is a piece of art.
Like from F430 to 430 Scud if not more.
The OP asked which is the most fun which is always subjective.
Some like hardcore in a Lotus way others in a Porsche way we can all make a choice on which we find more fun.
But There is no light and day difference between a 570 v 600 LT or a 720 for that matter on road.
They all drive and feel similar on the road, I’ve had all 3 and it’s on track where any real differences show imo.
Yes the 600LT can be a bit noisier from exhaust and lack of carpets etc and ride is generally firmer with comfort v comfort. It has a faster steering rack, and is a bit lighter but it’s still a 570 with some add ons, its not a different model despite having a different name.
You need to drive them all really but if you are not tracking your car then a 570s is imo no less fun than a 600LT.
Some like hardcore in a Lotus way others in a Porsche way we can all make a choice on which we find more fun.
But There is no light and day difference between a 570 v 600 LT or a 720 for that matter on road.
They all drive and feel similar on the road, I’ve had all 3 and it’s on track where any real differences show imo.
Yes the 600LT can be a bit noisier from exhaust and lack of carpets etc and ride is generally firmer with comfort v comfort. It has a faster steering rack, and is a bit lighter but it’s still a 570 with some add ons, its not a different model despite having a different name.
You need to drive them all really but if you are not tracking your car then a 570s is imo no less fun than a 600LT.
I agree above with RBT0, there is a big difference - In a straight line the performance is probably minimal.
However, we are talking about fun / stupid grin on your face factor - The 600 LT model is much much louder (standard) than a 570 even with the special mso exhaust, but also feels more like a race car everywhere, and therefore more thrilling / exciting experiance, and looks amazing with no mods at all.
Nothing wrong with a 540/570, a very very quick car.
I cant believe a single person would take a 540/570 over a 600 though.
Am sure a 458 speciale aperta is a good shout - but out of my price range, so never been in, or driven one.....and not a Mclaren.
Curious what people go for after a 600LT Spyder - maybe a 765 LT Spyder if funds allow, but although faster, maybe not actually more fun?
However, we are talking about fun / stupid grin on your face factor - The 600 LT model is much much louder (standard) than a 570 even with the special mso exhaust, but also feels more like a race car everywhere, and therefore more thrilling / exciting experiance, and looks amazing with no mods at all.
Nothing wrong with a 540/570, a very very quick car.
I cant believe a single person would take a 540/570 over a 600 though.
Am sure a 458 speciale aperta is a good shout - but out of my price range, so never been in, or driven one.....and not a Mclaren.
Curious what people go for after a 600LT Spyder - maybe a 765 LT Spyder if funds allow, but although faster, maybe not actually more fun?
Edited by lambo666 on Saturday 4th December 22:13
RBT0 said:
I have driven both and I own a 600. Yes almost night and day difference to me. Indeed I was ready to buy a Track pack (coming from a Cayman GTS) and after driving it (even with OEM titanium exhaust) I was disappointed by the lack of drama and by how refined the car was, more similar to a GT. I did notice quite a lot of pitch during hard acceleration and braking.
600LT is raw at its core. Visceral experience, stiff engine mounts, way louder, vibrations everywhere, composed and stiff ride. And bloody hell, the exhaust is a piece of art.
Like from F430 to 430 Scud if not more.
I get it and don't doubt the LT is outstanding, I've had some interesting cars over the years and the 570S was a step on from them all as a driving experience, perhaps that's just an endorsement on how good McLarens are at a basic level... I need to test drive a 600LT and particularly a Spider...my only question would be is it 100% better than a 570s coupe? Double the price is the cost to change at the moment..and then how can a 720S be dismissed from the discussion?! 600LT is raw at its core. Visceral experience, stiff engine mounts, way louder, vibrations everywhere, composed and stiff ride. And bloody hell, the exhaust is a piece of art.
Like from F430 to 430 Scud if not more.
RSbandit said:
I wouldnt doubt a 600LT is a more visceral experience than a 570s and would indeed be a car I would consider next..but to compare a 570s to a daily hack rep mobile is utter nonsense..we're all fans of the brand and the cars here I think your comment is a bit dismissive and insulting to owners of a 570s...free to make it of course but not in the spirit of the general chat here cheers! BTW your car looks outstanding in Papaya spark great colour.
It would only be insulting or dismissive if I hadn't had a 570s for 4 years.Edited by RSbandit on Saturday 4th December 17:25
Edited by RSbandit on Saturday 4th December 19:45
I'm not casting aspersions like a lot of the anti-McLaren mafia on here who have never sat in a McLaren let alone owned one. it was genuinely my feeling that my 570s felt like a quiet, comfy daily hack after driving the 600LT. Make no doubt about it, the 570s is an amazing car, I loved mine. But the OP is asking about the most "fun" Mclaren. Having had 600LT for over a year, I can say that it is a million times more "fun" than the 570s. If you want a rapid car that you can use every day, buy a 570s. Would I want to climb into the awkward Senna seats of my 600LT in my suit and drive into the office, no, that would be horrendous. It entirely depends on what your use of the car is. At no point have I said the 570s is a poor car, I love it......but for me, I don't want easy access, comfy seats, quiet exhaust, loads of internal sound deadening......I want blistering pace, spine tingling blue flames shooting out the rear deck, pops and bangs on the way down from 9k revs, arse hugging carbon fibre race seats........after you've had that, the 570s does feel a significant chunk more sedate........thats all I meant.
Edited by Sarnie on Monday 6th December 10:22
RSbandit said:
I get it and don't doubt the LT is outstanding, I've had some interesting cars over the years and the 570S was a step on from them all as a driving experience, perhaps that's just an endorsement on how good McLarens are at a basic level... I need to test drive a 600LT and particularly a Spider...my only question would be is it 100% better than a 570s coupe? Double the price is the cost to change at the moment..and then how can a 720S be dismissed from the discussion?!
Thats the same jump I made, worth every penny.You can't compare the 600LT with the 720s because agin, you are comparing a standard card, with an LT. Different car, for different purposes. I've driven a 720s and it's like a 570s on steroids, amazing stuff. But it's all very analogue, very play station-esque.......warp speed, but with very little driver effort.
An LT strips back all of that comfort and luxury and gives you 11 out of 10 in every department, every time you fire her up. That may not be what you want at 6am in the garage on your way to work on a Tuesday, which is why you would buy a 570s/720s.........but on a sunny Saturday morning with dry roads........you want to be getting into a 600LT/675LT/765LT for that "fun" drive......
Sarnie said:
It would only be insulting or dismissive if I hadn't had a 570s for 4 years.
I'm not casting aspersions like a lot of the anti-McLaren mafia on here who have never sat in a McLaren let alone owned one. it was genuinely my feeling that my 570s felt like a quite, comfy daily hack after driving the 600LT. Make no doubt about it, the 570s is an amazing car, I loved mine. But the OP is asking about the most "fun" Mclaren. Having had 600LT for over a year, I can say that it is a million times more "fun" than the 570s. If you want a rapid car that you can use every day, buy a 570s. Would I want to climb into the awkward Senna seats of my 600LT in my suit and drive into the office, no, that would be horrendous. It entirely depends on what your use of the car is. At no point have I said the 570s is a poor car, I love it......but for me, I don't want easy access, comfy seats, quiet exhaust, loads of internal sound deadening......I want blistering pace, spine tingling blue flames shooting out the rear deck, pops and bangs on the way down from 9k revs, arse hugging carbon fibre race seats........after you've had that, the 570s does feel a significant chunk more sedate........thats all I meant.
I agree with all that you say there, I tried hard to bond with my 570S, it’s great on so many levels, but ultimately it felt too easy and a little bland to drive, and as a result I wasn’t having much fun. Which is why it stayed with me a relatively short time. I will try a 600LT spider before making a final decision on the Scud. I'm not casting aspersions like a lot of the anti-McLaren mafia on here who have never sat in a McLaren let alone owned one. it was genuinely my feeling that my 570s felt like a quite, comfy daily hack after driving the 600LT. Make no doubt about it, the 570s is an amazing car, I loved mine. But the OP is asking about the most "fun" Mclaren. Having had 600LT for over a year, I can say that it is a million times more "fun" than the 570s. If you want a rapid car that you can use every day, buy a 570s. Would I want to climb into the awkward Senna seats of my 600LT in my suit and drive into the office, no, that would be horrendous. It entirely depends on what your use of the car is. At no point have I said the 570s is a poor car, I love it......but for me, I don't want easy access, comfy seats, quiet exhaust, loads of internal sound deadening......I want blistering pace, spine tingling blue flames shooting out the rear deck, pops and bangs on the way down from 9k revs, arse hugging carbon fibre race seats........after you've had that, the 570s does feel a significant chunk more sedate........thats all I meant.
Desert Dragon said:
Surprised 620R not mentioned. Too rare and unobtainium?
620R is another step up from the 600LT but very track focussed, I've driven one on track in the wet but with standard Pirelli's, the rain meant I couldn't push on to get any idea of how much better it was but it certainly had quicker steering, even noisier and I would imagine at 9/10's in the dry on decent tyres, if not slicks it would be an absolute weapon on track but it's not really designed for the road.RSbandit said:
I get it and don't doubt the LT is outstanding, I've had some interesting cars over the years and the 570S was a step on from them all as a driving experience, perhaps that's just an endorsement on how good McLarens are at a basic level... I need to test drive a 600LT and particularly a Spider...my only question would be is it 100% better than a 570s coupe? Double the price is the cost to change at the moment..and then how can a 720S be dismissed from the discussion?!
This is exactly where i am at! Although i see it as 50% more, i guess a good spec 570s is 100k, 600lt starting at 150k at the moment, but still 720s money, coupe of course, i actually have no interest in sypders at all, im not good looking enough to drive one of them and coupes just look more pure to me 
Thanks for Sarnies expanded view on his opinion, it comes accross a lot more subjective.
Hope to get a drive in one soon, but at the moment, im still wrestling with 50k for what is basically the same driving platform with a few tweeks, rarity aside, maybe i would feel different if i had a std 570s with the comfy seats, but those carbon P1 buckets are just sublime, so connected to the car and add to the experience.
Thanks gents!
Edited by Streetbeat on Sunday 5th December 10:45
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