765 v 675 just... wow
Discussion
Curledge said:
Base price maybe but cheapest advertised car is £360k for a coupe. No one orders a base car
A decent spec 765LT spider will be £400k+ as per one of my mates
It may be base price, but, it will still perform the same as a 400k one, so in essence it is 80k more for those performace gains over a 675 and to answer your earlier question, ask your mate why he has been happy to sink 400k into one over a 200k 675 for something that is not twice as good, im sure he has more authority on the subject than me or you A decent spec 765LT spider will be £400k+ as per one of my mates
I understand the defence from 675 owners on this topic, no one is critising the 675 for the record, but the 765 will be a better/faster car, thats all thats being said, like im sure the 600 is better than my 570s and i am probably in a similar camp, can i justify the additional.
Lb for lb or £ for £ i doubt there is a supercar out there that competes with a 675LT spider at todays prices.
The 458 speciale aperta as ferraris equivalent is circa £500k and dare I say it apart from sounding better as a NA car is not as good.
With each generation mclaren moves the game on that there is no doubt but as said above the original LT was a huge step up from the base model as it was the launch of the LT sub brand and they absolutely nailed the product, pricing and volume equation making it so desirable.
I dont think 675LT polarises opinion at all as all the reviews and comments I have read unanimously praise the car.
I think the only criticism I've ever read on a 675LT is the turning circle due to the race track steering set up and I guess I could live with that given all the other positives
The 458 speciale aperta as ferraris equivalent is circa £500k and dare I say it apart from sounding better as a NA car is not as good.
With each generation mclaren moves the game on that there is no doubt but as said above the original LT was a huge step up from the base model as it was the launch of the LT sub brand and they absolutely nailed the product, pricing and volume equation making it so desirable.
I dont think 675LT polarises opinion at all as all the reviews and comments I have read unanimously praise the car.
I think the only criticism I've ever read on a 675LT is the turning circle due to the race track steering set up and I guess I could live with that given all the other positives
At the end of the day, it's all subjective really as we all look for different things. I'd have a 765 in heartbeat if I felt I could justify it, although the aspects I love the most about it you can't really exploit on the road, ie the VDC & raw power. Personally I would have the 675 over one as it ticks every single box for me & there are many attributes it has which I prefer over the 765 - but that's just me.... Santa, I've been a very good boy this year 🤪
Streetbeat said:
ask your mate why he has been happy to sink 400k into one over a 200k 675 for something that is not twice as good, im sure he has more authority on the subject than me or you .
When your numbers roll in on the euromillions the price is pretty irrelevant.He also has a 675LT for the record.
He openly admits they are all way beyond his driving capabilities but for him its a latest and greatest status symbol more than anything.
Thankfully he is still down to earth and not an arrogant 7055er
Curledge said:
Lb for lb or £ for £ i doubt there is a supercar out there that competes with a 675LT spider at todays prices.
I dont think 675LT polarises opinion at all as all the reviews and comments I have read unanimously praise the car.
I think the only criticism I've ever read on a 675LT is the turning circle due to the race track steering set up and I guess I could live with that given all the other positives
No one says it does if you are putting words in my mouth and your friend is the perfect example of my explanation, if you can afford a 765lt, you will probably buy one, if you are trying to justify the extra over a 675, you probably wouldnt buy one, just like me trying to justify the extra to a 600.I dont think 675LT polarises opinion at all as all the reviews and comments I have read unanimously praise the car.
I think the only criticism I've ever read on a 675LT is the turning circle due to the race track steering set up and I guess I could live with that given all the other positives
Given in three years your budget of 300k will probably buy either, why would you then buy a 675, im guessing the answer is you prefer it. I am not trying to persuade you any different. If i had the same budget in 3 years, i would buy a 765, its the better car, its great we are all different to be honest.
Curledge said:
Lb for lb or £ for £ i doubt there is a supercar out there that competes with a 675LT spider at todays prices.
The 458 speciale aperta as ferraris equivalent is circa £500k and dare I say it apart from sounding better as a NA car is not as good.
With each generation mclaren moves the game on that there is no doubt but as said above the original LT was a huge step up from the base model as it was the launch of the LT sub brand and they absolutely nailed the product, pricing and volume equation making it so desirable.
I dont think 675LT polarises opinion at all as all the reviews and comments I have read unanimously praise the car.
I think the only criticism I've ever read on a 675LT is the turning circle due to the race track steering set up and I guess I could live with that given all the other positives
All opinion !! and everyone has one.The 458 speciale aperta as ferraris equivalent is circa £500k and dare I say it apart from sounding better as a NA car is not as good.
With each generation mclaren moves the game on that there is no doubt but as said above the original LT was a huge step up from the base model as it was the launch of the LT sub brand and they absolutely nailed the product, pricing and volume equation making it so desirable.
I dont think 675LT polarises opinion at all as all the reviews and comments I have read unanimously praise the car.
I think the only criticism I've ever read on a 675LT is the turning circle due to the race track steering set up and I guess I could live with that given all the other positives
Not sure if you understood the “polarises opinion comment “ though,
The point being some folks prefer the 675 LT and others prefer the 765 LT but performance wise the 765 is a league different.
As Thorney said the 720s is a far better road car than a 675LT so unless you are going tracking that’s a better buy £ for £ imo
Rocketreid said:
All opinion !! and everyone has one.
Not sure if you understood the “polarises opinion comment “ though,
The point being some folks prefer the 675 LT and others prefer the 765 LT but performance wise the 765 is a league different.
As Thorney said the 720s is a far better road car than a 675LT so unless you are going tracking that’s a better buy £ for £ imo
Well you see that then depends on your definition of "better road car". The 720s is a phenomenal all-round daily, no question but if I'm going to spend that amount of money on a car I want to feel properly connected to it in every way, the 720 doesn't do it for me - dare I say it's too good which for my taste makes it a bit dull on the road! Not sure if you understood the “polarises opinion comment “ though,
The point being some folks prefer the 675 LT and others prefer the 765 LT but performance wise the 765 is a league different.
As Thorney said the 720s is a far better road car than a 675LT so unless you are going tracking that’s a better buy £ for £ imo
GlynnsportRacing said:
Well you see that then depends on your definition of "better road car". The 720s is a phenomenal all-round daily, no question but if I'm going to spend that amount of money on a car I want to feel properly connected to it in every way, the 720 doesn't do it for me - dare I say it's too good which for my taste makes it a bit dull on the road!
Not my words !, although I tend to agree with him.A Lotus Exige or a 600LT/620R do the connected bit very well but aren’t necessarily great road cars.
In the end a 765LT does all the best parts of a 675 with the road finesse of the 720s.
GlynnsportRacing said:
Rocketreid said:
All opinion !! and everyone has one.
Not sure if you understood the “polarises opinion comment “ though,
The point being some folks prefer the 675 LT and others prefer the 765 LT but performance wise the 765 is a league different.
As Thorney said the 720s is a far better road car than a 675LT so unless you are going tracking that’s a better buy £ for £ imo
Well you see that then depends on your definition of "better road car". The 720s is a phenomenal all-round daily, no question but if I'm going to spend that amount of money on a car I want to feel properly connected to it in every way, the 720 doesn't do it for me - dare I say it's too good which for my taste makes it a bit dull on the road! Not sure if you understood the “polarises opinion comment “ though,
The point being some folks prefer the 675 LT and others prefer the 765 LT but performance wise the 765 is a league different.
As Thorney said the 720s is a far better road car than a 675LT so unless you are going tracking that’s a better buy £ for £ imo
Bispal said:
GlynnsportRacing said:
Rocketreid said:
All opinion !! and everyone has one.
Not sure if you understood the “polarises opinion comment “ though,
The point being some folks prefer the 675 LT and others prefer the 765 LT but performance wise the 765 is a league different.
As Thorney said the 720s is a far better road car than a 675LT so unless you are going tracking that’s a better buy £ for £ imo
Well you see that then depends on your definition of "better road car". The 720s is a phenomenal all-round daily, no question but if I'm going to spend that amount of money on a car I want to feel properly connected to it in every way, the 720 doesn't do it for me - dare I say it's too good which for my taste makes it a bit dull on the road! Not sure if you understood the “polarises opinion comment “ though,
The point being some folks prefer the 675 LT and others prefer the 765 LT but performance wise the 765 is a league different.
As Thorney said the 720s is a far better road car than a 675LT so unless you are going tracking that’s a better buy £ for £ imo
As I have posted before, I think all of the McLaren models are great and super quick.
There is no 'this is much faster'.
The 765 is quick, no doubt about it.
When maybe between a second or so separates a 540 through to a 720 on normal cars to a quarter mile and around 140+mph, you would have to be driving way out of most peoples comfort and ability levels to be demonstratably much quicker; its a pointless discussion.
So far, the 3 LT levels have offered differences, most of which are discovered on the track.
Like you Paul, if I think of the only Ferrari I would ever go back to the brand for, its the F40.
Every modern day Ferrari on paper much quicker but that to me is not what it is about.
The F40 to me is pinnacle Ferrari.
To me, the 675LT is pinnacle McLaren.
Its the view of most people whom have been heavily involved with McLaren since they started; such as McLaren dealer principles or salesperson, Alastair Bols, motoring journalists etc.
I am not saying the 675 is for everyone, but it is for me, as it is for others.
However, all macs are great. In no way shape or form would I say its much better than any other McLaren; I'm not that guy.
On a footnote, the first 765 spider has come up for sale at £450k. Thats just insane and I can image it shall sit about like the coupes that are for sale at £360k+.
Wheelspinning said:
Paul, your post is my exact thoughts.
As I have posted before, I think all of the McLaren models are great and super quick.
There is no 'this is much faster'.
The 765 is quick, no doubt about it.
When maybe between a second or so separates a 540 through to a 720 on normal cars to a quarter mile and around 140+mph, you would have to be driving way out of most peoples comfort and ability levels to be demonstratably much quicker; its a pointless discussion.
So far, the 3 LT levels have offered differences, most of which are discovered on the track.
Like you Paul, if I think of the only Ferrari I would ever go back to the brand for, its the F40.
Every modern day Ferrari on paper much quicker but that to me is not what it is about.
The F40 to me is pinnacle Ferrari.
To me, the 675LT is pinnacle McLaren.
Its the view of most people whom have been heavily involved with McLaren since they started; such as McLaren dealer principles or salesperson, Alastair Bols, motoring journalists etc.
I am not saying the 675 is for everyone, but it is for me, as it is for others.
However, all macs are great. In no way shape or form would I say its much better than any other McLaren; I'm not that guy.
On a footnote, the first 765 spider has come up for sale at £450k. Thats just insane and I can image it shall sit about like the coupes that are for sale at £360k+.
It's so true, so little difference between a 540 and a720 in the real world. On McLaren drives everyone keeps up with very little difference no matter what they are in. It's just what you 'feel' behind the wheel that's different. Any McLaren is a privilege and joy to own and its true people who work / worked at McLaren always seem to state the 675LT as their favourite alongside the P1. As I have posted before, I think all of the McLaren models are great and super quick.
There is no 'this is much faster'.
The 765 is quick, no doubt about it.
When maybe between a second or so separates a 540 through to a 720 on normal cars to a quarter mile and around 140+mph, you would have to be driving way out of most peoples comfort and ability levels to be demonstratably much quicker; its a pointless discussion.
So far, the 3 LT levels have offered differences, most of which are discovered on the track.
Like you Paul, if I think of the only Ferrari I would ever go back to the brand for, its the F40.
Every modern day Ferrari on paper much quicker but that to me is not what it is about.
The F40 to me is pinnacle Ferrari.
To me, the 675LT is pinnacle McLaren.
Its the view of most people whom have been heavily involved with McLaren since they started; such as McLaren dealer principles or salesperson, Alastair Bols, motoring journalists etc.
I am not saying the 675 is for everyone, but it is for me, as it is for others.
However, all macs are great. In no way shape or form would I say its much better than any other McLaren; I'm not that guy.
On a footnote, the first 765 spider has come up for sale at £450k. Thats just insane and I can image it shall sit about like the coupes that are for sale at £360k+.
Thanks OP. I enjoyed the video.
Unsurprising result to be honest, not that any of us buy any LT for drag racing.
Why unsurprising? Having driven both, it's mostly down to vastly improved traction control, more power, and the 15% shorter gearing. But we buy an LT for the way they feel and handle, and the increased driver involvement, even at lower speeds.
FWIW, I love all 3 LT models.
Thanks for the sharing the video, as I'd not seen it before.
Unsurprising result to be honest, not that any of us buy any LT for drag racing.
Why unsurprising? Having driven both, it's mostly down to vastly improved traction control, more power, and the 15% shorter gearing. But we buy an LT for the way they feel and handle, and the increased driver involvement, even at lower speeds.
FWIW, I love all 3 LT models.
Thanks for the sharing the video, as I'd not seen it before.
LotusJas said:
Thanks OP. I enjoyed the video.
Unsurprising result to be honest, not that any of us buy any LT for drag racing.
Why unsurprising? Having driven both, it's mostly down to vastly improved traction control, more power, and the 15% shorter gearing. But we buy an LT for the way they feel and handle, and the increased driver involvement, even at lower speeds.
FWIW, I love all 3 LT models.
Thanks for the sharing the video, as I'd not seen it before.
Your wwlcome!Unsurprising result to be honest, not that any of us buy any LT for drag racing.
Why unsurprising? Having driven both, it's mostly down to vastly improved traction control, more power, and the 15% shorter gearing. But we buy an LT for the way they feel and handle, and the increased driver involvement, even at lower speeds.
FWIW, I love all 3 LT models.
Thanks for the sharing the video, as I'd not seen it before.
Your 765 spider must be due soon; how excited are you?!
LotusJas said:
Wheelspinning said:
Your wwlcome!
Your 765 spider must be due soon; how excited are you?!
Sadly its delayed, thanks to the chip shortages Your 765 spider must be due soon; how excited are you?!
I mean what else goes with fish fingers? I am looking forward to the end of this chip shortage then life can return to normal.Bispal said:
I have just been to Waitrose and seriously, no joking, there were no chips at all, none! The entire frozen potato shapes aisle was empty I mean what else goes with fish fingers? I am looking forward to the end of this chip shortage then life can return to normal.
Fish n chips without chips just isn't the same I mean what else goes with fish fingers? I am looking forward to the end of this chip shortage then life can return to normal.91173RS said:
Can’t imagine any 675 owner coming back after a blat thinking to themselves “I wish I had more power”. I suspect it’s the opposite. In an ideal world you’d have a button to halve the power and red line it in every gear listening to the whip cracks as you change up and down.
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