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Wheelspinning said:
BrntRubber said:
Wheelspinning said:
Unfortunately, the colours that the OP has stated he does not like are the colours that sell very quickly.
The white one has sat about for a while as its not a desirable colour for the majority, hence its lower price; buy that and you shall have the same issue upon selling.
I would not be surprised if the dealer mentioned has been a bit economic on the truth regards owners etc, and alarm bells always ring if being pressured into a deposit.
I'm also surprised at the price of the Burton Blue car; I personally feel that come May that would of been £20k more...maybe the owner has a 765 spider coming?
In the case of mines the owner had an early 765 coupe and very reluctantly sold me my one he had bought from new; he has since asked to buy it back to compliment the 765 which he doesn't feel is a keeper.
My advice; orange, green or grey, as much carbon as possible, wing louvres, low miles but more than 5k so its been used, and as low previous owners as possible.
Buying from AB shall get you the exact same years warranty you get from McLaren, the car shall be impeccably presented, and he only sells cars with A1 history / ownership and no stories.
As I mentioned before, call him as he shall most likely be able to source you the colour and spec that you want; he knows of most of most of the 675s out there.
It took him a year of persuading the previous owner to part with my 675 and right upto money transfer we thought he would change his mind as he had done so previously.
Best of luck in your search; I have had a few McLarens but the 675 is very special.
£20k more in May for the blue car? How come?The white one has sat about for a while as its not a desirable colour for the majority, hence its lower price; buy that and you shall have the same issue upon selling.
I would not be surprised if the dealer mentioned has been a bit economic on the truth regards owners etc, and alarm bells always ring if being pressured into a deposit.
I'm also surprised at the price of the Burton Blue car; I personally feel that come May that would of been £20k more...maybe the owner has a 765 spider coming?
In the case of mines the owner had an early 765 coupe and very reluctantly sold me my one he had bought from new; he has since asked to buy it back to compliment the 765 which he doesn't feel is a keeper.
My advice; orange, green or grey, as much carbon as possible, wing louvres, low miles but more than 5k so its been used, and as low previous owners as possible.
Buying from AB shall get you the exact same years warranty you get from McLaren, the car shall be impeccably presented, and he only sells cars with A1 history / ownership and no stories.
As I mentioned before, call him as he shall most likely be able to source you the colour and spec that you want; he knows of most of most of the 675s out there.
It took him a year of persuading the previous owner to part with my 675 and right upto money transfer we thought he would change his mind as he had done so previously.
Best of luck in your search; I have had a few McLarens but the 675 is very special.
I have to say I am struggling to understand the pricing on the 675lts.
Can someone please shed some light on the historic pricing on these and how quickly they have risen? I think the chip shortage is pushing up supercar prices by £20k plus. Are these cars just being rucked away by collectors?
Is the 675lt world's better than a 600lts which will be £100k cheaper soon enough? A 600lts at £150k vs a 675lts at 240/250k is a big price delta.
I also suspect 765lt coupe will be around 270kish in around 12 months.
Edited by BrntRubber on Saturday 5th March 12:26
As I said, the Burton Blue one was a bargain last week.
I think that car would of sold for the same if it had been listed at that price.
I see the CC listing for the black one indicates it was damaged whilst parked on the rear quarter and since repaired; thats a pity.
It won't bother some, but shall put off others.
Wheelspinning said:
AB listed a Volcano Orange 675 LT spider on Friday at £260k and it was sold yesterday.
As I said, the Burton Blue one was a bargain last week.
I think that car would of sold for the same if it had been listed at that price.
I see the CC listing for the black one indicates it was damaged whilst parked on the rear quarter and since repaired; thats a pity.
It won't bother some, but shall put off others.
Yeah Burton Blue car was cheap in this crazy market.As I said, the Burton Blue one was a bargain last week.
I think that car would of sold for the same if it had been listed at that price.
I see the CC listing for the black one indicates it was damaged whilst parked on the rear quarter and since repaired; thats a pity.
It won't bother some, but shall put off others.
Decent cars are rare as hen teeth and prices are only going up.
Can see these being back to list price within 18 months but not the previous +£100k premiums
I may well be wrong, but looking again, i am sure the VO one just sold at AB was previously sold via GC Motors back in April '20 when covid had just hit.
Its was the lowest priced 675 spider I have ever seen for sale as I am pretty sure it was low £180k.
I actually enquired about it at the time, but it had just sold.
Its was the lowest priced 675 spider I have ever seen for sale as I am pretty sure it was low £180k.
I actually enquired about it at the time, but it had just sold.
Wheelspinning said:
I may well be wrong, but looking again, i am sure the VO one just sold at AB was previously sold via GC Motors back in April '20 when covid had just hit.
Its was the lowest priced 675 spider I have ever seen for sale as I am pretty sure it was low £180k.
I actually enquired about it at the time, but it had just sold.
I know prices have been slowly rising on 675LTs but surely it cant be the same car that's gone from £180k to £260k in the last 24 months.Its was the lowest priced 675 spider I have ever seen for sale as I am pretty sure it was low £180k.
I actually enquired about it at the time, but it had just sold.
Performantes have gone from £180k to £220k in that period as a benchmark of the general market shift but that suggests the 675LT has outperformed the market increase by double
Curledge said:
Wheelspinning said:
I may well be wrong, but looking again, i am sure the VO one just sold at AB was previously sold via GC Motors back in April '20 when covid had just hit.
Its was the lowest priced 675 spider I have ever seen for sale as I am pretty sure it was low £180k.
I actually enquired about it at the time, but it had just sold.
I know prices have been slowly rising on 675LTs but surely it cant be the same car that's gone from £180k to £260k in the last 24 months.Its was the lowest priced 675 spider I have ever seen for sale as I am pretty sure it was low £180k.
I actually enquired about it at the time, but it had just sold.
Performantes have gone from £180k to £220k in that period as a benchmark of the general market shift but that suggests the 675LT has outperformed the market increase by double
I don't remember seeing a spyder for for £180k around April 20? I was looking at the prices on a daily basis then and I think the cheapest coupe (very low spec) was around £180k and Spyder around £200k, both very low spec. When I bought in Jan 20 coupes were £190k and spyders £210k and that was about as low as it got with the occasional low spec car just nudging under when the marked bottomed out in spring 20.
The CC car black 675LT spyder is sat at £170,500 this morning. For a 2k mile car that is incredibly low and if, as suggested by a potential buyer above, that is already more than they are prepared to pay then it looks like game over in their 675LT search. Especially when a £5k spend on the interior would resolve their personal issues.
Another friend of mine has bought the VO spyder from AB, he has owned one before and wanted back in. As good cars are thin on the ground he pounced.
Hi Bispal.
The VO one was definitely the same car at GC cars and it was in the £180k range; I cannot remember now if it was £189k or less, but it originally listed just under £200k then dropped about 7 days later when it sold very quickly; mileage was around 2700 if I recall correctly.
It was right when the big panic was starting just before lockdown.
I screenshot the below pics on the 22nd March 2020.
I fully agree with yourself and curledge about values; at some point soon they shall be way beyond current prices, which is nice but not overly important.
Although the black one may of stalled with the bidding, I would imagine the reserve is beyond £200k.
I am just surprised damage to a rear quarter has been mentioned.
Although an expensive repair, I doubt it would show up on any register, and it would of been repaired by McLaren to a level that most likely would be undetectable.
It shall now forever be tarnished as the black car that has had a bump.
My last Mclaren had the wings and bonnet replaced as even though I never seen it, they detected the paint reaction that gets classed as corrosion by some; not any different to a small accident repair I suppose.
The change of interior colour and £6k buyer premium would still of made that a very cheap car with that history, mileage and single owner even at £225k, but the small repair changes that unfortunately.
The VO one was definitely the same car at GC cars and it was in the £180k range; I cannot remember now if it was £189k or less, but it originally listed just under £200k then dropped about 7 days later when it sold very quickly; mileage was around 2700 if I recall correctly.
It was right when the big panic was starting just before lockdown.
I screenshot the below pics on the 22nd March 2020.
I fully agree with yourself and curledge about values; at some point soon they shall be way beyond current prices, which is nice but not overly important.
Although the black one may of stalled with the bidding, I would imagine the reserve is beyond £200k.
I am just surprised damage to a rear quarter has been mentioned.
Although an expensive repair, I doubt it would show up on any register, and it would of been repaired by McLaren to a level that most likely would be undetectable.
It shall now forever be tarnished as the black car that has had a bump.
My last Mclaren had the wings and bonnet replaced as even though I never seen it, they detected the paint reaction that gets classed as corrosion by some; not any different to a small accident repair I suppose.
The change of interior colour and £6k buyer premium would still of made that a very cheap car with that history, mileage and single owner even at £225k, but the small repair changes that unfortunately.
HIS LM said:
So the OP bid £200k on a white 675 and missed out but thinks £170k for a black one (his preferred colour) with less miles is excessive 
You mean a black car that has been damaged, has an ugly interior, ugly wheels and has paint in bad condition.I did my homework on the car, which clearly you haven't. Don't be a
Edited by BrntRubber on Wednesday 16th March 18:29
Not a great choice of cars out there at the moment, probably the least I have seen in the last 3 years and must admit none of them float my boat.
Albeit a slight time lag but 675LTs are very similar to 458 Speciale now in terms of rising prices and limited supply so prices will probably increase further IMHO as there are a lot less 675LTs
Albeit a slight time lag but 675LTs are very similar to 458 Speciale now in terms of rising prices and limited supply so prices will probably increase further IMHO as there are a lot less 675LTs
Curledge said:
Not a great choice of cars out there at the moment, probably the least I have seen in the last 3 years and must admit none of them float my boat.
Albeit a slight time lag but 675LTs are very similar to 458 Speciale now in terms of rising prices and limited supply so prices will probably increase further IMHO as there are a lot less 675LTs
I must say it is tough at present. Albeit a slight time lag but 675LTs are very similar to 458 Speciale now in terms of rising prices and limited supply so prices will probably increase further IMHO as there are a lot less 675LTs
I am shocked how few cars are out there in black or grey. I am just not a fan of orange, purple, etc. I am clearly the minority. I do love Volcano Red, which is out there for me. The depth of the colour is just beautiful.
My first choice is defintrly a 675lts but may end up in a 600lts if the hunt takes too long or the delta between them keeps widening. Even the 600lts out there aren't great in spec except for one in orange.
Going to try and stay patient and hope the next couple of months produce some sexy options at decent prices.
Taffy66 said:
The CC 675 looks a great car with less than 3k miles and Full Main Dealer SH. Despite being no reserve its still got four days to go and I fully expect it to end at £200k inc the £6k buyer's fee if not more. Any less and its a complete bargain IMO
Spot on.I would change the interior to full alcantara with stitching and seat belts changed to the same colour that I would change the calipers to.
A full detail and it would be perfect and would never be identified as the LT with the 'rear quarter' repair.
I have those wheels, and finished correctly they are stunning.
The factory finish of liquid metal was complimented with matt black in the spokes and inner wheel; thats just all wrong they way they are currently, but again very easily rectified.
If i recall correctly, they were the lightest and most expensive wheel which were only an option on the spider.
With the ceramics, there is no brake dust so they seldom look dirty.
If someone even paid £200k, £6k fees and around £10k to undertake what I suggested, its still an absolute bargain, with the added benefit of a brand new interior.
The way things are going, it could easily be a £300k car in 6-12mths.
A call to McLaren Glasgow to find out exactly what the repair was would ease things also, as they most certainly repaired it and they are absolutely fantastic at paintwork. They would have to contact current owner for permission to which I am sure he would be delighted to help out.
All just how I see it.
Wheelspinning said:
Taffy66 said:
The CC 675 looks a great car with less than 3k miles and Full Main Dealer SH. Despite being no reserve its still got four days to go and I fully expect it to end at £200k inc the £6k buyer's fee if not more. Any less and its a complete bargain IMO
Spot on.I would change the interior to full alcantara with stitching and seat belts changed to the same colour that I would change the calipers to.
A full detail and it would be perfect and would never be identified as the LT with the 'rear quarter' repair.
I have those wheels, and finished correctly they are stunning.
The factory finish of liquid metal was complimented with matt black in the spokes and inner wheel; thats just all wrong they way they are currently, but again very easily rectified.
If i recall correctly, they were the lightest and most expensive wheel which were only an option on the spider.
With the ceramics, there is no brake dust so they seldom look dirty.
If someone even paid £200k, £6k fees and around £10k to undertake what I suggested, its still an absolute bargain, with the added benefit of a brand new interior.
The way things are going, it could easily be a £300k car in 6-12mths.
A call to McLaren Glasgow to find out exactly what the repair was would ease things also, as they most certainly repaired it and they are absolutely fantastic at paintwork. They would have to contact current owner for permission to which I am sure he would be delighted to help out.
All just how I see it.
I don't know much about redoing interiors but I figured redoing that full interior is around £20k. I do like your idea on the interior change and would do exactly the style you outlined.
May I as please:
1) Would having a new non oem interior not put off many buyers?
I would imagine that would really hurt resale significantly.
2) How does it work with these auctions in the event the car has any serious mechanical problems? Is it as seen or unseen in the case of the auction.
Edited by BrntRubber on Wednesday 16th March 21:32
BrntRubber said:
I don't think all that work can be done for £10k. I don't know much about redoing interiors but I figured redoing that full interior is around £20k. I do like your idea on the interior change and would do exactly the style you outlined.
A quick call to Dave at D:Class would give you the exact price and there is no one else i would consider for McLarens.They recovered my alcantara steering wheel, inserted a body colored 12 o'clock and stitching, replaced the centres of my leather comfort seats with alcantara and also replaced the stitching on the seats for around £1800 i think.
Maybe my estimate is low but only by a few thousand tops.
Seatbelt colors get changed all the time so most McLaren main dealers have sets that have been changed out and shall swap them over for 1.5hrs labour, with them keeping your seat belts; its what they offered me when I almost bought a 600lt spider.
Caliper colour change £1500 ish.
Wheels £800 ish
Detail £750 ish
Prices vary obviously but the biggest one is the interior change which would be nailed with a phone call.
Low miles and Full history means not much to worry about mechanically, and I have to say my one has been so reliable that I won't be extending the warranty this year.
Wheelspinning said:
BrntRubber said:
I don't think all that work can be done for £10k. I don't know much about redoing interiors but I figured redoing that full interior is around £20k. I do like your idea on the interior change and would do exactly the style you outlined.
A quick call to Dave at D:Class would give you the exact price and there is no one else i would consider for McLarens.They recovered my alcantara steering wheel, inserted a body colored 12 o'clock and stitching, replaced the centres of my leather comfort seats with alcantara and also replaced the stitching on the seats for around £1800 i think.
Maybe my estimate is low but only by a few thousand tops.
Seatbelt colors get changed all the time so most McLaren main dealers have sets that have been changed out and shall swap them over for 1.5hrs labour, with them keeping your seat belts; its what they offered me when I almost bought a 600lt spider.
Caliper colour change £1500 ish.
Wheels £800 ish
Detail £750 ish
Prices vary obviously but the biggest one is the interior change which would be nailed with a phone call.
Low miles and Full history means not much to worry about mechanically, and I have to say my one has been so reliable that I won't be extending the warranty this year.
Just had a close up look and it seems the paint has more than its fair share of scratches and chips. These type of cars should have PPF from new especially Black ones. Some expert touch up work will be needed if the new owner intends putting PPF on it. If I bought it all I'd do straightaway would sort out the paint and PPF and I'd live with the interior to see if I got used to it before making some rash trim decisions.
Taffy66 said:
Just had a close up look and it seems the paint has more than its fair share of scratches and chips. These type of cars should have PPF from new especially Black ones. Some expert touch up work will be needed if the new owner intends putting PPF on it. If I bought it all I'd do straightaway would sort out the paint and PPF and I'd live with the interior to see if I got used to it before making some rash trim decisions.
I would doubt anyone can live with that trim; even the original owner whom spec'd it could only manage a few thousand miles in it.Black cars always show up stone chips, scratches and swirls the most; nature of the beast.
For that mileage, the stonechips must be mininimal, and the swirling scratches would most likely be removed with a multi stage detail.
Changing the leather to alcantara by D:Class would have no impact whatsoever on the value but to improve it.
They are McLarens chosen upholsterers, so it would be as it left the factory.
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