675LT Spider

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BrntRubber

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Friday 11th March 2022
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Bispal said:
BrntRubber said:
Curledge said:
BrntRubber said:
No it wasn't me. It almost was.
No one wants to be remembered as the nearly man, you snooze you lose laughlaughlaughlaughlaugh
True lol

Thanks for letting me know about this.

I don't love white so I offer £198k and TH declined. I went to £200k and they still declined. Considering that car used be up for sale under 200k I don't think it was a bad offer.

Anyway want meant to be.
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2016-mclaren-675lt-spider-2

here's your chance......
Don't love the interior or wheels but I do like black.

Am I correct that this is a non desirable spec. If the white car sold for £205k I wonder what things worth.?

How can one get the options list on the car?

I have never bid in an auction. I think I will bid.


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Edited by BrntRubber on Friday 11th March 09:14

BrntRubber

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Wheelspinning said:
BrntRubber said:
Wheelspinning said:
Unfortunately, the colours that the OP has stated he does not like are the colours that sell very quickly.

The white one has sat about for a while as its not a desirable colour for the majority, hence its lower price; buy that and you shall have the same issue upon selling.

I would not be surprised if the dealer mentioned has been a bit economic on the truth regards owners etc, and alarm bells always ring if being pressured into a deposit.

I'm also surprised at the price of the Burton Blue car; I personally feel that come May that would of been £20k more...maybe the owner has a 765 spider coming?

In the case of mines the owner had an early 765 coupe and very reluctantly sold me my one he had bought from new; he has since asked to buy it back to compliment the 765 which he doesn't feel is a keeper.

My advice; orange, green or grey, as much carbon as possible, wing louvres, low miles but more than 5k so its been used, and as low previous owners as possible.

Buying from AB shall get you the exact same years warranty you get from McLaren, the car shall be impeccably presented, and he only sells cars with A1 history / ownership and no stories.

As I mentioned before, call him as he shall most likely be able to source you the colour and spec that you want; he knows of most of most of the 675s out there.

It took him a year of persuading the previous owner to part with my 675 and right upto money transfer we thought he would change his mind as he had done so previously.

Best of luck in your search; I have had a few McLarens but the 675 is very special.
£20k more in May for the blue car? How come?

I have to say I am struggling to understand the pricing on the 675lts.

Can someone please shed some light on the historic pricing on these and how quickly they have risen? I think the chip shortage is pushing up supercar prices by £20k plus. Are these cars just being rucked away by collectors?

Is the 675lt world's better than a 600lts which will be £100k cheaper soon enough? A 600lts at £150k vs a 675lts at 240/250k is a big price delta.

I also suspect 765lt coupe will be around 270kish in around 12 months.

Edited by BrntRubber on Saturday 5th March 12:26
AB listed a Volcano Orange 675 LT spider on Friday at £260k and it was sold yesterday.

As I said, the Burton Blue one was a bargain last week.

I think that car would of sold for the same if it had been listed at that price.

I see the CC listing for the black one indicates it was damaged whilst parked on the rear quarter and since repaired; thats a pity.

It won't bother some, but shall put off others.
The bids on the black car have ready surpassed what I was prepared to bid.

BrntRubber

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Wednesday 16th March 2022
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HIS LM said:
So the OP bid £200k on a white 675 and missed out but thinks £170k for a black one (his preferred colour) with less miles is excessive jester
You mean a black car that has been damaged, has an ugly interior, ugly wheels and has paint in bad condition.

I did my homework on the car, which clearly you haven't. Don't be a censored



Edited by BrntRubber on Wednesday 16th March 18:29

BrntRubber

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Wednesday 16th March 2022
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Curledge said:
Not a great choice of cars out there at the moment, probably the least I have seen in the last 3 years and must admit none of them float my boat.

Albeit a slight time lag but 675LTs are very similar to 458 Speciale now in terms of rising prices and limited supply so prices will probably increase further IMHO as there are a lot less 675LTs
I must say it is tough at present.

I am shocked how few cars are out there in black or grey. I am just not a fan of orange, purple, etc. I am clearly the minority. I do love Volcano Red, which is out there for me. The depth of the colour is just beautiful.

My first choice is defintrly a 675lts but may end up in a 600lts if the hunt takes too long or the delta between them keeps widening. Even the 600lts out there aren't great in spec except for one in orange.

Going to try and stay patient and hope the next couple of months produce some sexy options at decent prices.

BrntRubber

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Wednesday 16th March 2022
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Taffy66 said:
The CC 675 looks a great car with less than 3k miles and Full Main Dealer SH. Despite being no reserve its still got four days to go and I fully expect it to end at £200k inc the £6k buyer's fee if not more. Any less and its a complete bargain IMO
Spot on.

I would change the interior to full alcantara with stitching and seat belts changed to the same colour that I would change the calipers to.

A full detail and it would be perfect and would never be identified as the LT with the 'rear quarter' repair.

I have those wheels, and finished correctly they are stunning.

The factory finish of liquid metal was complimented with matt black in the spokes and inner wheel; thats just all wrong they way they are currently, but again very easily rectified.

If i recall correctly, they were the lightest and most expensive wheel which were only an option on the spider.

With the ceramics, there is no brake dust so they seldom look dirty.

If someone even paid £200k, £6k fees and around £10k to undertake what I suggested, its still an absolute bargain, with the added benefit of a brand new interior.

The way things are going, it could easily be a £300k car in 6-12mths.

A call to McLaren Glasgow to find out exactly what the repair was would ease things also, as they most certainly repaired it and they are absolutely fantastic at paintwork. They would have to contact current owner for permission to which I am sure he would be delighted to help out.

All just how I see it.
I don't think all that work can be done to a high standard for £10k. If it can, I am going to really reconsider this car.

I don't know much about redoing interiors but I figured redoing that full interior is around £20k. I do like your idea on the interior change and would do exactly the style you outlined.

May I as please:
1) Would having a new non oem interior not put off many buyers?
I would imagine that would really hurt resale significantly.

2) How does it work with these auctions in the event the car has any serious mechanical problems? Is it as seen or unseen in the case of the auction.



Edited by BrntRubber on Wednesday 16th March 21:32

BrntRubber

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I don't think all that work can be done for £10k. I don't know much about redoing interiors but I figured redoing that full interior is around £20k. I do like your idea on the interior change and would do exactly the style you outlined.
A quick call to Dave at D:Class would give you the exact price and there is no one else i would consider for McLarens.

They recovered my alcantara steering wheel, inserted a body colored 12 o'clock and stitching, replaced the centres of my leather comfort seats with alcantara and also replaced the stitching on the seats for around £1800 i think.

Maybe my estimate is low but only by a few thousand tops.

Seatbelt colors get changed all the time so most McLaren main dealers have sets that have been changed out and shall swap them over for 1.5hrs labour, with them keeping your seat belts; its what they offered me when I almost bought a 600lt spider.

Caliper colour change £1500 ish.

Wheels £800 ish

Detail £750 ish

Prices vary obviously but the biggest one is the interior change which would be nailed with a phone call.

Low miles and Full history means not much to worry about mechanically, and I have to say my one has been so reliable that I won't be extending the warranty this year.
Thank you for being so helpful.

BrntRubber

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Wednesday 16th March 2022
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Taffy66 said:
Just had a close up look and it seems the paint has more than its fair share of scratches and chips. These type of cars should have PPF from new especially Black ones. Some expert touch up work will be needed if the new owner intends putting PPF on it. If I bought it all I'd do straightaway would sort out the paint and PPF and I'd live with the interior to see if I got used to it before making some rash trim decisions.
I would doubt anyone can live with that trim; even the original owner whom spec'd it could only manage a few thousand miles in it.

Black cars always show up stone chips, scratches and swirls the most; nature of the beast.

For that mileage, the stonechips must be mininimal, and the swirling scratches would most likely be removed with a multi stage detail.

Changing the leather to alcantara by D:Class would have no impact whatsoever on the value but to improve it.

They are McLarens chosen upholsterers, so it would be as it left the factory.
I am ringing D:Class in the morning and am going to see if I can get someone out to inspect it.

Being so new to the auction process and given what people have said about CC its a little concerning.

I read on their website it says they take the 6k off my card at auction end, but they don't mention the time frame to conclude the transaction. Anyone know?

BrntRubber

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Thursday 17th March 2022
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Sarnie said:
They don't care how long you take to conclude the transaction, they have your £6k.
Surely there has to be an amount of time the seller is oigated to go through with the sale and, likewise, there must be an appropriate amount of time to settle payment with the seller.

BrntRubber

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Thursday 17th March 2022
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Bispal said:
BrntRubber said:
Curledge said:
Not a great choice of cars out there at the moment, probably the least I have seen in the last 3 years and must admit none of them float my boat.


I am shocked how few cars are out there in black or grey. I am just not a fan of orange, purple, etc. I am clearly the minority. I do love Volcano Red, which is out there for me. The depth of the colour is just beautiful.
I'm not, there are around 80 RHD spiders in the UK and not many more worldwide. How many Left lists only 40 spiders in the UK. So from a pool of 80 cars, assume 40+ in long term ownership. Of the 40 left assume 10 or oddly specified & 20 are bright colours. That leaves around 10 cars that may or may not come up for sale in the future but who knows. As I have said many times before I waited 2 years for a chicane clubsport coupe to come up for sale.

I now have 3 friends in the past 4 weeks that have all bought 675LT's and they didn't hesitate, they pounced. In one case they didn't even like the colour and most of the spec but after driving mine they realised its all about the experience behind the wheel so just got what was available at the time. Colour, interiors and wheels can all be changed, none of them really matter. Does a potential 250GTO owner pass on the £10M one because its yellow and he wants a red one.....
You make a good point.

BrntRubber

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Thursday 17th March 2022
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Wheelspinning said:
BrntRubber said:
I don't think all that work can be done for £10k. I don't know much about redoing interiors but I figured redoing that full interior is around £20k. I do like your idea on the interior change and would do exactly the style you outlined.
A quick call to Dave at D:Class would give you the exact price and there is no one else i would consider for McLarens.

They recovered my alcantara steering wheel, inserted a body colored 12 o'clock and stitching, replaced the centres of my leather comfort seats with alcantara and also replaced the stitching on the seats for around £1800 i think.

Maybe my estimate is low but only by a few thousand tops.

Seatbelt colors get changed all the time so most McLaren main dealers have sets that have been changed out and shall swap them over for 1.5hrs labour, with them keeping your seat belts; its what they offered me when I almost bought a 600lt spider.

Caliper colour change £1500 ish.

Wheels £800 ish

Detail £750 ish

Prices vary obviously but the biggest one is the interior change which would be nailed with a phone call.

Low miles and Full history means not much to worry about mechanically, and I have to say my one has been so reliable that I won't be extending the warranty this year.
Minimum of £16k+ VAT from D:Class. They can't start till 2023 and it will take 3 months to do.

The light bump appears to have been more than that.
"Mclaren Glasgow did the repair. They replaced the carbon sill, alloy and tyre at my request as all were scratched. No structural or mechanical damage."

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BrntRubber

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Thursday 17th March 2022
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Streetbeat said:
If you considered a 600LT, why not a 620R wink
Want a convertible.

BrntRubber

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Friday 18th March 2022
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heihei said:
You might be in luck - a grey spider has just turned up at Dunt Barn according to their Instagram page.....
It sold.

Edited by BrntRubber on Friday 18th March 11:37

BrntRubber

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heihei said:
Wow - any idea how much for?
No but pissed off lol. Wasn't meant to be. Lovely spec

BrntRubber

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Friday 18th March 2022
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I wish I could have snapped this up. Exactly what I was looking for.

BrntRubber

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Saturday 19th March 2022
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MDL111 said:
If you can live with LHD (and the LHD price levels), then you have a little more choice on the continent incl currently black (looks more like very dark blue) and grey cars
I could live with LHD as I will be using this car mostly on the continent, but RHD is preferred. If pricing is similar RHD for me.

BrntRubber

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Sunday 20th March 2022
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The auction on the black car is doing well for the seller. It hit £191k yesterday late afternoon with more than 24hrs left.

I wonder of its going to go over £200k.


BrntRubber

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Sunday 20th March 2022
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BrntRubber said:
Minimum of £16k+ VAT from D:Class. They can't start till 2023 and it will take 3 months to do.

The light bump appears to have been more than that.
"Mclaren Glasgow did the repair. They replaced the carbon sill, alloy and tyre at my request as all were scratched. No structural or mechanical damage."

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Edited by BrntRubber on Thursday 17th March 12:42
Wow! Thats all change from a year or so ago.

Maybe AB has a bit of maneuverability with D:Class.

My requested works were undertaken prior to me collecting the car; after paying for the car, it was in the same week for 2 sets of seats being completely altered to my spec along with the steering wheel; it seems inconceivable that you were quoted 10 times more for dash, door cards and centre console along with a years wait for work to commence.

Then again, in the last 12 months I know how much my quotation prices have increased, and likewise we are looking at booking in work now for March / April '23.

Regards the replacement bits; the alloy is about £3k + vat and as for the carbon side skirts, think of a crazy figure.

The front carbon spoiler with the wings is around £20k + vat new.

Rear quarter panel, labour and paint?

Expensive bump, but no doubt unrecorded.

If I was the owner I would keep hold and undertake all the remedial works I suggested and then sell.

Best of luck in your search.

On a footnote; did you contact AB as I suggested? He knows probably every 675 out there and might just source you one thats not on the market.
Thanks for your helpful input.

Sorry I am confused. May I clarify.

"Regards the replacement bits; the alloy is about £3k + vat and as for the carbon side skirts, think of a crazy figure."
This has already been done.

"The front carbon spoiler with the wings is around £20k + vat new."
I don't believe this is needed, unless I missed something. Man I sure hope I don't scrape or damage that.


BrntRubber

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Sunday 20th March 2022
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Wheelspinning said:
BrntRubber said:
Thanks for your helpful input.

Sorry I am confused. May I clarify.

"Regards the replacement bits; the alloy is about £3k + vat and as for the carbon side skirts, think of a crazy figure."
This has already been done.

"The front carbon spoiler with the wings is around £20k + vat new."
I don't believe this is needed, unless I missed something. Man I sure hope I don't scrape or damage that.
I was just commenting on your post saying that these bits were replaced along with the rear quarter and speculating what the overall repair cost may of been for a small 'bump'.

I have no idea how much the carbon skirt would be but I was told the replacement price the front carbon spoiler was by a dealer principle as another 675 owner damaged theirs and had to replace it.

Hopefully that clears my post up!
Got it... thanks for clarifying

BrntRubber

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Won the auction.

I hope I didn't overpay.

A few things in my mind pushed me beyond my preset limits:

1) Knowing the grey car at Dunt Barn sold on Sat within 1 hour at an asking of £240k
2) I think this is the only single owner black car with low miles in the UK. I love black
3) Never tracked
4) My first auction... The stress and fear of missing out and the market moving on again in the buildup to summer might price me out as I don't want to be paying £250k plus for one.

Edited by BrntRubber on Sunday 20th March 20:38

BrntRubber

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Wheelspinning said:
BrntRubber said:
Won the auction.

I hope I didn't overpay.

A few things in my mind pushed me beyond my preset limits:

1) Knowing the grey car at Dunt Barn sold on Sat within 1 hour at an asking of £240k
2) I think this is the only single owner black car with low miles in the UK. I love black
3) Never tracked
4) My first auction... The stress and fear of missing out and the market moving on again in the buildup to summer might price me out as I don't want to be paying £250k plus for one.

Edited by BrntRubber on Sunday 20th March 20:38
Well played; you have got a fantastic car at a fantastic price.

If you were still planning on doing alterations to your own spec, even if you spent £20k your still well ahead of current prices.

I love mines, and I still feel as though prices of these shall start with a 3 in the not too distant future.

If you are coming up to collect, give me a shout and I shall meet you with mines and grab lunch at the Old Course! I am around 25 mins from the stated location.
Thank you very much! If I do collect, I would really enjoy seeing your car and grabbing a bit.