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Wheelspinning said:
Unfortunately, the colours that the OP has stated he does not like are the colours that sell very quickly.
The white one has sat about for a while as its not a desirable colour for the majority, hence its lower price; buy that and you shall have the same issue upon selling.
I would not be surprised if the dealer mentioned has been a bit economic on the truth regards owners etc, and alarm bells always ring if being pressured into a deposit.
I'm also surprised at the price of the Burton Blue car; I personally feel that come May that would of been £20k more...maybe the owner has a 765 spider coming?
In the case of mines the owner had an early 765 coupe and very reluctantly sold me my one he had bought from new; he has since asked to buy it back to compliment the 765 which he doesn't feel is a keeper.
My advice; orange, green or grey, as much carbon as possible, wing louvres, low miles but more than 5k so its been used, and as low previous owners as possible.
Buying from AB shall get you the exact same years warranty you get from McLaren, the car shall be impeccably presented, and he only sells cars with A1 history / ownership and no stories.
As I mentioned before, call him as he shall most likely be able to source you the colour and spec that you want; he knows of most of most of the 675s out there.
It took him a year of persuading the previous owner to part with my 675 and right upto money transfer we thought he would change his mind as he had done so previously.
Best of luck in your search; I have had a few McLarens but the 675 is very special.
£20k more in May for the blue car? How come?The white one has sat about for a while as its not a desirable colour for the majority, hence its lower price; buy that and you shall have the same issue upon selling.
I would not be surprised if the dealer mentioned has been a bit economic on the truth regards owners etc, and alarm bells always ring if being pressured into a deposit.
I'm also surprised at the price of the Burton Blue car; I personally feel that come May that would of been £20k more...maybe the owner has a 765 spider coming?
In the case of mines the owner had an early 765 coupe and very reluctantly sold me my one he had bought from new; he has since asked to buy it back to compliment the 765 which he doesn't feel is a keeper.
My advice; orange, green or grey, as much carbon as possible, wing louvres, low miles but more than 5k so its been used, and as low previous owners as possible.
Buying from AB shall get you the exact same years warranty you get from McLaren, the car shall be impeccably presented, and he only sells cars with A1 history / ownership and no stories.
As I mentioned before, call him as he shall most likely be able to source you the colour and spec that you want; he knows of most of most of the 675s out there.
It took him a year of persuading the previous owner to part with my 675 and right upto money transfer we thought he would change his mind as he had done so previously.
Best of luck in your search; I have had a few McLarens but the 675 is very special.
I have to say I am struggling to understand the pricing on the 675lts.
Can someone please shed some light on the historic pricing on these and how quickly they have risen? I think the chip shortage is pushing up supercar prices by £20k plus. Are these cars just being rucked away by collectors?
Is the 675lt world's better than a 600lts which will be £100k cheaper soon enough? A 600lts at £150k vs a 675lts at 240/250k is a big price delta.
I also suspect 765lt coupe will be around 270kish in around 12 months.
Edited by BrntRubber on Saturday 5th March 12:26
Curledge said:
Who said Rambo had a green one ?
Cant be many with all the carbon and MSO louvres but seems like 2 - Wheelspinning and 123RYs mate
At no point did I say you were my mate. I want to make it crystal right here, you are not my mate. Cant be many with all the carbon and MSO louvres but seems like 2 - Wheelspinning and 123RYs mate
Edited by Curledge on Saturday 5th March 12:10
Edited by Curledge on Saturday 5th March 12:11
123RY said:
At no point did I say you were my mate. I want to make it crystal right here, you are not my mate.
No idea who you are and no you are not my mate either but as you seem to know all about this Rambo character I assumed he was your bestie or something.I know a quick bit of research on the major social media platforms suggests he owns quite a few supercars but I'm not a stalker and prefer to let the guy get on with his own life. He seems harmless enough IMHO
The 675LT is a very rare car in the UK, around 70 spider's and 60 coupes. You need to accept you may not get the colour you want wihout a long wait. I waited 2 years for a chicane grey clubsport then one came up and i pounced. Of the 70 or so spiders aroind 40 are with known long term owners leaving around 30 cars.
The burton blue belongs to a good friend of mine. It has many options and is an attractive MSO colour. There are differences in price mainly down to amount of CF. There could be £80k+ new between a new car with lots of CF and none., hence the differences.
My advice is buy a known car from Alastair Bolls or Graham at Autolounge in Aberdeen. Both those sellers know almost every 675LT car and owner in the UK and what is coming up. If you can't find the colour you want then a Litchfield liquid protection paint colour change at around £6k is the answer and i know 3 owners who have taken this route.
Hope that helps?
The burton blue belongs to a good friend of mine. It has many options and is an attractive MSO colour. There are differences in price mainly down to amount of CF. There could be £80k+ new between a new car with lots of CF and none., hence the differences.
My advice is buy a known car from Alastair Bolls or Graham at Autolounge in Aberdeen. Both those sellers know almost every 675LT car and owner in the UK and what is coming up. If you can't find the colour you want then a Litchfield liquid protection paint colour change at around £6k is the answer and i know 3 owners who have taken this route.
Hope that helps?
Bispal said:
The 675LT is a very rare car in the UK, around 70 spider's and 60 coupes. You need to accept you may not get the colour you want wihout a long wait. I waited 2 years for a chicane grey clubsport then one came up and i pounced. Of the 70 or so spiders aroind 40 are with known long term owners leaving around 30 cars.
The burton blue belongs to a good friend of mine. It has many options and is an attractive MSO colour. There are differences in price mainly down to amount of CF. There could be £80k+ new between a new car with lots of CF and none., hence the differences.
My advice is buy a known car from Alastair Bolls or Graham at Autolounge in Aberdeen. Both those sellers know almost every 675LT car and owner in the UK and what is coming up. If you can't find the colour you want then a Litchfield liquid protection paint colour change at around £6k is the answer and i know 3 owners who have taken this route.
Hope that helps?
Your mates car sold today. Congrats to him and the happy new buyer.The burton blue belongs to a good friend of mine. It has many options and is an attractive MSO colour. There are differences in price mainly down to amount of CF. There could be £80k+ new between a new car with lots of CF and none., hence the differences.
My advice is buy a known car from Alastair Bolls or Graham at Autolounge in Aberdeen. Both those sellers know almost every 675LT car and owner in the UK and what is coming up. If you can't find the colour you want then a Litchfield liquid protection paint colour change at around £6k is the answer and i know 3 owners who have taken this route.
Hope that helps?
Bispal said:
BrntRubber said:
Your mates car sold today. Congrats to him and the happy new buyer.
Well i'm not surprised, I had another mate who wanted to go and look and another mate who just took delivery of the orange 675LT coupe toaday from AB. They seem to be selling fast when available! 675LTs are very spec and colour sensitive in terms of price but all that said they all drive the same.
If you buy at bottom of the market expect to sell at the bottom of the market.
If they go up which everyone expects to happen you could still drive a brilliant car and be quids in at the end of the day.
Prime examples are becoming harder and harder to find as most are owned as long term keepers by enthusiasts or collectors.
Would you rather have a very special rare car in the colour YOU like or for the same money a run of the mill regular production car in a more popular spec.
Depends what your budget ceiling is but £200k doesn't buy a £250k spec car.
Its all relative and they will all go up or down broadly the same in line with the market unless its a delivery mileage car.
If you buy at bottom of the market expect to sell at the bottom of the market.
If they go up which everyone expects to happen you could still drive a brilliant car and be quids in at the end of the day.
Prime examples are becoming harder and harder to find as most are owned as long term keepers by enthusiasts or collectors.
Would you rather have a very special rare car in the colour YOU like or for the same money a run of the mill regular production car in a more popular spec.
Depends what your budget ceiling is but £200k doesn't buy a £250k spec car.
Its all relative and they will all go up or down broadly the same in line with the market unless its a delivery mileage car.
Bispal said:
BrntRubber said:
So blue paint, fender louvres and 4 ot 5k miles commands £40k more than a white one with loads of CF?
Obviously as its sold, burton blue very rare, if someone wants it only chance...I personally thought it was 'cheap' and the fact it sold within 10days and only 4 days after the pictures went live confirms that.
I stand by my thoughts that in 6 weeks time that would of been listed at around £20+k more in time for summer.
Like every car of this type, there are desirable specs and colours, and others that aren't but was what the original owner desired.
Good spec/colour GT3s sell quicker than basic spec GT3s for instance.
Historically these were at one point £400k + to buy; covid times they dropped to around £200k for spiders, but are creeping up. In the last 12 months a handful of great spec ones have sold for between £275k and £300k.
I have the original purchase order and with all the options chosen it was just over £340k when purchased new.
The price of 765 coupes and even spiders shall not impact 675 values.
One you shall drop in value, one shall increase in value.
Wheelspinning said:
Bispal said:
BrntRubber said:
So blue paint, fender louvres and 4 ot 5k miles commands £40k more than a white one with loads of CF?
Obviously as its sold, burton blue very rare, if someone wants it only chance...I personally thought it was 'cheap' and the fact it sold within 10days and only 4 days after the pictures went live confirms that.
I stand by my thoughts that in 6 weeks time that would of been listed at around £20+k more in time for summer.
Like every car of this type, there are desirable specs and colours, and others that aren't but was what the original owner desired.
Good spec/colour GT3s sell quicker than basic spec GT3s for instance.
Historically these were at one point £400k + to buy; covid times they dropped to around £200k for spiders, but are creeping up. In the last 12 months a handful of great spec ones have sold for between £275k and £300k.
I have the original purchase order and with all the options chosen it was just over £340k when purchased new.
The price of 765 coupes and even spiders shall not impact 675 values.
One you shall drop in value, one shall increase in value.
I am very knowledable about Porsche and my latest car, gt3 touring, just left the factory. It got delayed 4 or 5 times due to exclusive interior in Crayon.
I have never seen a super specced gt3 with pts get £40k more than a medium/high specced car non pts. I guess that's why I am a little surprised. Its cool to be learning more about mclarens.
TH claim the white car at around 340k kr 350k list price as it has many of the cf bits.
Does anyone know the breakdown of colours on LTS UK cars? This would help me understand how lolikely or unlikely getting certain colours will be.
Having never owned a 675lts my thinking was to get in one around 200ish and see how I like the ownerhsip experience. It looks like 765lt prices may intersect those of the 675lts in the next 12 to 24 months. At this point I could make the switch if I wasn't in love the 675lts.
BrntRubber said:
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Is the 675lt world's better than a 600lts which will be £100k cheaper soon enough? A 600lts at £150k vs a 675lts at 240/250k is a big price delta.
I also suspect 765lt coupe will be around 270kish in around 12 months.
765 at £270k in a year is very unlikely. Is the 675lt world's better than a 600lts which will be £100k cheaper soon enough? A 600lts at £150k vs a 675lts at 240/250k is a big price delta.
I also suspect 765lt coupe will be around 270kish in around 12 months.
Firstly the 765 is a next level car with “hyper-car”performance. It is built on the 720 which is technically superior to the 675.
Then you need to factor in current global delays which will limit supplies until the microchips situation is resolved.
Regards your question on price for 675 vs 600, I think you need to factor in the difference for list price - just over £285k for the 675 vs just over £200k for the 600.
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BrntRubber said:
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Is the 675lt world's better than a 600lts which will be £100k cheaper soon enough? A 600lts at £150k vs a 675lts at 240/250k is a big price delta.
I also suspect 765lt coupe will be around 270kish in around 12 months.
765 at £270k in a year is very unlikely. Is the 675lt world's better than a 600lts which will be £100k cheaper soon enough? A 600lts at £150k vs a 675lts at 240/250k is a big price delta.
I also suspect 765lt coupe will be around 270kish in around 12 months.
Firstly the 765 is a next level car with “hyper-car”performance. It is built on the 720 which is technically superior to the 675.
Then you need to factor in current global delays which will limit supplies until the microchips situation is resolved.
Regards your question on price for 675 vs 600, I think you need to factor in the difference for list price - just over £285k for the 675 vs just over £200k for the 600.
My gt3 touring got delayed over a year and is now finally at Emden
So excited for her and am adding the rear seats behind my 18 ways for my boys.There are two 765 for sale and can be had for £320k. Factor in the spider delivers and depreciation and the chip shortage getting resolved and I say 270k to 250k very possible in 12 to 18 months.
Edited by BrntRubber on Saturday 5th March 16:53
I think before you get in too deep and spend time on the actual colour/spec of car etc you really do need to drive a few models to actually ascertain exactly what you want, as well look over them in detail.Kicking tyres and opinions on social media only get you so far
I thought after my 570s TP that a 600LT was the way to go but after 6 months of owning one I had second thoughts. Great car to look at and on track sublime but not exactly what I was after.
I preferred a Super series and everyone rated the 675LT, so I thought this was probably the car for me.
There were a fair few for sale at the time so had a good choice and had the opportunity to view 3. Had a decent drive in one and no doubt it’s a good car however I tried a 720s a few days later and for me it suited better.
All Coupes as personally I prefer the aesthetics and the albeit small, lower weight and better dynamics of them
I thought after my 570s TP that a 600LT was the way to go but after 6 months of owning one I had second thoughts. Great car to look at and on track sublime but not exactly what I was after.
I preferred a Super series and everyone rated the 675LT, so I thought this was probably the car for me.
There were a fair few for sale at the time so had a good choice and had the opportunity to view 3. Had a decent drive in one and no doubt it’s a good car however I tried a 720s a few days later and for me it suited better.
All Coupes as personally I prefer the aesthetics and the albeit small, lower weight and better dynamics of them
BrntRubber said:
Any idea how long they expect these chip shortages are expected to continue?
My gt3 touring got delayed over a year and is now finally at Emden So excited for her and am adding the rear seats behind my 18 ways for my boys.
There are two 765 for sale and can be had for £320k. Factor in the spider delivers and depreciation and the chip shortage getting resolved and I say 270k to 250k very possible in 12 to 18 months.
I think it is a fair enough assumption.My gt3 touring got delayed over a year and is now finally at Emden
So excited for her and am adding the rear seats behind my 18 ways for my boys.There are two 765 for sale and can be had for £320k. Factor in the spider delivers and depreciation and the chip shortage getting resolved and I say 270k to 250k very possible in 12 to 18 months.
Edited by BrntRubber on Saturday 5th March 16:53
Once you realise the 765 is just a far quicker 720, the novelty may well wear off.
Quicker does not equal better.
The P1 esque looks, the simplicity of the interior and relatively fewer produced helps the 675 diserability.
Not heard of any owners whom have owned, been dissappointed then sold.
At some point, the price points shall be similar, then its an easier descion.
As I mentioned before, one is going to continue to decrease in value, the other shall continue to increase.
However, thats a moot point thats pales into insignificance when behind the wheel of either.
I think the Burton Blue 675 at AB took an age to sell compared to the roof scoop volcano red coupe...that seemed to take a couple of days to find a new home.
Wheelspinning said:
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Once you realise the 765 is just a far quicker 720, the novelty may well wear off.
Quicker does not equal better.
LT treatment is a tried and known approach. Once you realise the 765 is just a far quicker 720, the novelty may well wear off.
Quicker does not equal better.
We saw it when they developed the 650 into the 675 and then again for the 570 into the 600.
What makes you think Mclaren have not added that LT rawness, touch, dynamism, driver magic etc to the 765? The 765 is not just as you put it a far quicker version of the 720. Just as the 675 isn’t just a quicker version of the 650.
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