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Streetbeat said:
Seems to be the trend for me on 675LT's, another that may be sold purely for speculation rather than get used for its remit. There is absolutely zero chance a 675 is worth £200k more than a 650s.
I used to say the same about the 430 scuderia not being worth double the standard F430.It was only when I made the leap of faith and drove it I realised the difference.
On paper it seemed to be 20% better but in reality that 20% crucially changed the whole character of the car.
The step from 650S to 675LT is even more pronounced and its rarer so in my personal hands on experience i can assure you it is worth it at least IMHO .
650S is a great car but the 675LT is on a completely different level hence the soaring prices as it reaches iconic status as Mclarens best road car since the F1
Wheelspinning said:
I think you boys are playing 'curledge bingo'.
I'm trying to think of what the next reply that is required for someone to shout 'house'!
Jealousy can be a strange thing I'm trying to think of what the next reply that is required for someone to shout 'house'!
I'm just a true petrolhead fortunate to own a few supercars and experienced many over last 20 years.
Some have come and gone within 6 - 12 months as I like to change regularly but the 675LT has been the standout car by a country mile hence its 5 yr tenure in which period 4 other supercars alongside it have also been and gone.
I think when you have experienced the pinnacle its difficult to find a suitable replacement even at twice the budget I have so far failed.
With new cars going hybrid/electric i think the desire for supercars is seriously going to decline in the future other than as a status ego massage which doesn't interest me in the slightest.
My lamborghini huracan tecnica is due in March 2023 and as the last NA V10 will complete my fleet for the foreseeable future as I cant see anything hybrid appealing in the slightest.
Call me old school but the current crop of supercars as the last ICE are the ones to have from a drivers engagement perspective.
If I want an electric car as a DD I will buy a Tesla not a Ferrari
Curledge said:
Wheelspinning said:
I think you boys are playing 'curledge bingo'.
I'm trying to think of what the next reply that is required for someone to shout 'house'!
Jealousy can be a strange thing I'm trying to think of what the next reply that is required for someone to shout 'house'!
I'm just a true petrolhead fortunate to own a few supercars and experienced many over last 20 years.
Some have come and gone within 6 - 12 months as I like to change regularly but the 675LT has been the standout car by a country mile hence its 5 yr tenure in which period 4 other supercars alongside it have also been and gone.
I think when you have experienced the pinnacle its difficult to find a suitable replacement even at twice the budget I have so far failed.
With new cars going hybrid/electric i think the desire for supercars is seriously going to decline in the future other than as a status ego massage which doesn't interest me in the slightest.
My lamborghini huracan tecnica is due in March 2023 and as the last NA V10 will complete my fleet for the foreseeable future as I cant see anything hybrid appealing in the slightest.
Call me old school but the current crop of supercars as the last ICE are the ones to have from a drivers engagement perspective.
If I want an electric car as a DD I will buy a Tesla not a Ferrari
If you are going to continue to peddle these tales at least try and be consistent.
Also congratulations on your euromillions win.
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|https://thumbsnap.com/M2ymCvxy[/url]Streetbeat said:
Seems to be the trend for me on 675LT's, another that may be sold purely for speculation rather than get used for its remit. There is absolutely zero chance a 675 is worth £200k more than a 650s.
+ 1.Fact is, a 650 drives better for me on my fast B road and navigates my tennis club car park better (of course I’m used to it). And I am handier with it on the track, where frankly the 675’s aero does nothing in the 50 -140 range except get in the way - my 650 feels stronger out of corners. 90% of what McLaren brings to the table vs the others is the steering, the driving position, the forward view, the stiff and light chassis, the top end rush, the suspension staying planted on bumpy tracks - all present in abundance on the 650.
I had seriously considered moving to a 675 before getting an Atom instead next to the 650 and also ordered a Plaid Model S for a daily. That covers my full usage range a lot better.
Don’t get me wrong, the 675 is certainly a step up over a 650, especially with ESC DYN - just not enough of one.
Edited by 12pack on Saturday 25th June 12:51
My 650S was an incredible all round car. So good it felt too capable at times and as such less engaging.
You really had to thrash it hard to get any sensation of speed and fun IMHO.
Around town it is better than a 675LT no question and mainly due to the poor steering turn of the LT.
On a fast A or B road the 675LT is different gravy IMHO and so much more raw, involving and fun.
Depends what you want from the car but for me the LT is a far more engaging car and more than achieves what McLaren set out to do with the limited light weight track focussed LT model.
TBH they really went overboard with the 675LT to launch the halo sub brand.
Its massively over engineered for its price point hence blowing the competition away when it was launched.
600LT and 765LT are fantastic sequels but everyone knows the original LT is still the best.
Whilst a 650S and an atom ticks both boxes the 675LT is somewhere in the middle as one car.
As I dont track my supercars , only fast road use, so something as extreme as an atom doesn't appeal to me personally but fully get why your line up suits your personal needs
You really had to thrash it hard to get any sensation of speed and fun IMHO.
Around town it is better than a 675LT no question and mainly due to the poor steering turn of the LT.
On a fast A or B road the 675LT is different gravy IMHO and so much more raw, involving and fun.
Depends what you want from the car but for me the LT is a far more engaging car and more than achieves what McLaren set out to do with the limited light weight track focussed LT model.
TBH they really went overboard with the 675LT to launch the halo sub brand.
Its massively over engineered for its price point hence blowing the competition away when it was launched.
600LT and 765LT are fantastic sequels but everyone knows the original LT is still the best.
Whilst a 650S and an atom ticks both boxes the 675LT is somewhere in the middle as one car.
As I dont track my supercars , only fast road use, so something as extreme as an atom doesn't appeal to me personally but fully get why your line up suits your personal needs
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 25th June 13:32
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 25th June 13:58
Streetbeat said:
Seems to be the trend for me on 675LT's, another that may be sold purely for speculation rather than get used for its remit. There is absolutely zero chance a 675 is worth £200k more than a 650s.
In theory no, however current reality dictates it is.The same could be said for a 458 as apposed to a 458 Aperta etc.
I loved the 2yrs I had in my 650 spider as its an absolute beast of a car, but I knew the next McLaren had to be a 675.
It has lived up to what I had hoped for and beyond.
The 'turning circle' thing was blown out of proportion; it has not hindered me once, and it was a real concern before buying.
Just like the 650, its as happy pootling about at 15mph as it is going ( shall we say ) a lot faster.
Not aware of any owners on here that have bought on speculation; it seems like myself that they get used all the time.
Quite right too.
123RY said:
MisterBigglesworth said:
Aha top work. Dementia at 30 must be rough! HIS LM said:
mikey k said:
Depends on how you use it.
I'm sliding around on the comfort seats in mine so I have bought a set of P1 seats to fit.
Had them in my last one and they made it a much more engaging drive.
So true horses for courses and all that, if anyone wants to swap P1 buckets for comforts let me know. I'm sliding around on the comfort seats in mine so I have bought a set of P1 seats to fit.
Had them in my last one and they made it a much more engaging drive.
Just bought a set to have them retrimmed.
I'll keep the comforts in storage.
I'll let a few other owners know about your swap.
Streetbeat said:
JPCGT said:
Wonder how much to budget to sort. You'll be taking a hit if you want to drive it/put any miles on it, swap out seats for P1 buckets, sort out accumulators and other niggles. Interesting conundrum/problem to have.
Seems to be the trend for me on 675LT's, another that may be sold purely for speculation rather than get used for its remit. There is absolutely zero chance a 675 is worth £200k more than a 650s.
)amongst the 675 owners the last 5 cars have alone gone to people who are using them, not to speculators.
I hope this one goes the same way, it deserves.
Streetbeat said:
123RY said:
Priceless, i think the 675 faithful need to do some reading from the horses mouth "himself" rather than just keep pulling the rose coloured glasses down!He stated. " I'm just a true petrolhead fortunate to own a few supercars and experienced many over last 20 years."
So the fact he's 30 doesn't mean he hasn't sat and experienced a variety of cars from a young age.
Plenty of other forums with people being nostalgic over early memories of being driven in their relatives cars.
mikebradford said:
Streetbeat said:
123RY said:
Priceless, i think the 675 faithful need to do some reading from the horses mouth "himself" rather than just keep pulling the rose coloured glasses down!He stated. " I'm just a true petrolhead fortunate to own a few supercars and experienced many over last 20 years."
So the fact he's 30 doesn't mean he hasn't sat and experienced a variety of cars from a young age.
Plenty of other forums with people being nostalgic over early memories of being driven in their relatives cars.
If his posts annoy you, disregard them.
It all seems harmless to me and at least he is talking about the actual topic.
He is not unique though; it seems whoever has a 675 on here makes very enthusiastic and praising posts about all aspects; driving, design, specifications and I suppose values.
If that annoys some, maybe this thread isn't for them.
Wheelspinning said:
Its amusing that curledge puts out these posts that make others bite each time.
If his posts annoy you, disregard them.
It all seems harmless to me and at least he is talking about the actual topic.
He is not unique though; it seems whoever has a 675 on here makes very enthusiastic and praising posts about all aspects; driving, design, specifications and I suppose values.
If that annoys some, maybe this thread isn't for them.
Hear hear, sadlyim not allowed an opinion and it doesn't stop the trollingIf his posts annoy you, disregard them.
It all seems harmless to me and at least he is talking about the actual topic.
He is not unique though; it seems whoever has a 675 on here makes very enthusiastic and praising posts about all aspects; driving, design, specifications and I suppose values.
If that annoys some, maybe this thread isn't for them.
Curledge said:
My 650S was an incredible all round car. So good it felt too capable at times and as such less engaging.
You really had to thrash it hard to get any sensation of speed and fun IMHO.
Around town it is better than a 675LT no question and mainly due to the poor steering turn of the LT.
On a fast A or B road the 675LT is different gravy IMHO and so much more raw, involving and fun.
Depends what you want from the car but for me the LT is a far more engaging car and more than achieves what McLaren set out to do with the limited light weight track focussed LT model.
TBH they really went overboard with the 675LT to launch the halo sub brand.
Its massively over engineered for its price point hence blowing the competition away when it was launched.
600LT and 765LT are fantastic sequels but everyone knows the original LT is still the best.
Whilst a 650S and an atom ticks both boxes the 675LT is somewhere in the middle as one car.
As I dont track my supercars , only fast road use, so something as extreme as an atom doesn't appeal to me personally but fully get why your line up suits your personal needs
I don't know why some on here are busting your chops bud. Just ignore them. I agree with what you have said.You really had to thrash it hard to get any sensation of speed and fun IMHO.
Around town it is better than a 675LT no question and mainly due to the poor steering turn of the LT.
On a fast A or B road the 675LT is different gravy IMHO and so much more raw, involving and fun.
Depends what you want from the car but for me the LT is a far more engaging car and more than achieves what McLaren set out to do with the limited light weight track focussed LT model.
TBH they really went overboard with the 675LT to launch the halo sub brand.
Its massively over engineered for its price point hence blowing the competition away when it was launched.
600LT and 765LT are fantastic sequels but everyone knows the original LT is still the best.
Whilst a 650S and an atom ticks both boxes the 675LT is somewhere in the middle as one car.
As I dont track my supercars , only fast road use, so something as extreme as an atom doesn't appeal to me personally but fully get why your line up suits your personal needs
Edited by Curledge on Saturday 25th June 13:32
Edited by Curledge on Saturday 25th June 13:58
675lt is an unreal car.
I have signifigant seat time in many sports cars such as F430, 458, 991 touring, 991 gt3 rs, 991 2rs, 991 speedster, 992 Touring. I have limited seat time in many other cars (performante, aventador, 991 turbo s, etc).
675LT Spider is insane value at the mid to low £200s. Truly Epic! Mine has been getting accumulators and thermostats replaced and is back in Ibiza. I can't wait to drive her tonight. The sense of occasion and "specialness" is unreal.
Wheelspinning said:
I guess we won't ever find out if the napier LT spider for sale at AB was curledges car now he has been removed.
Unless of course he reappears again.
No his had a custom exhaust done by Thorney. And he'd never let it go anyways. Had you never noticed quite how besotted he was with the car? Unless of course he reappears again.
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