Deposit down on my first "Supercar"

Deposit down on my first "Supercar"

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resolve10

1,017 posts

46 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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ChapmanC said:
Hi all,

Incredibly excited and still in shock that I have put a deposit down on my first "supercar". The reason for the inverted commas is because its a 570S, a sports series car. To me, this is a supercar, I don't want an argument about it haha. My goal was a supercar by the time I'm 30 and I cant actually believe I'm ticking it off.

Just sold my PTS 981 Cayman GT4 and will be picking up this ventura orange 570S within the next couple of weeks all being well. Got what I think is a good deal considering spec and mileage is exactly what I wanted. Negotiated on the price because the Mclaren warranty is up next month and I do want to extend it.

If anyone knows of the car, any info would be great. Original reg is: RV16 OBG. VIN IS: SBM13DAC9GW000511 again if anyone can share FULL spec that would be great!






and the car it replaces, as you can see, I like bright colours!

Congrats on the McLaren! Definitely a supercar in my eyes at least.

You weren't the chap I bumped into at the Starbucks in York a few months ago were you? We exchanged admiration for your GT4 and my Megane RS in the queue! I remember the colour and there can't be many about!

ChapmanC

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134 posts

182 months

Sunday 3rd April 2022
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resolve10 said:
Congrats on the McLaren! Definitely a supercar in my eyes at least.

You weren't the chap I bumped into at the Starbucks in York a few months ago were you? We exchanged admiration for your GT4 and my Megane RS in the queue! I remember the colour and there can't be many about!
Haha yep that was me!! Definitely wouldn’t of been another! Recently moved out of the are, but yes I do remember that well!

Wheelspinning

1,214 posts

31 months

Sunday 3rd April 2022
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Its fantastic how with the ceasing of sports series production these cars have retreated back from huge depreciation, fetching the correct values for what a stonking supercar that it is, and more and more new owners are coming to the McLaren brand.

About time!

Thats a cracking looking mac you have got yourself there; must of been a wretch offloading that stunning GT4 though.

deeps

5,393 posts

242 months

Monday 4th April 2022
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ChapmanC said:
samjlevy said:
Beautiful, lovely colour, welcome to the McLaren club!

If you call a McLaren dealer and give them the VIN they will email you over the spec sheet for the car.
Will do, thank you!
Also ask them about previous warranty work and corrosion repairs.

Unfortunately they do suffer with paint bubbling and McLaren will no longer honour the 10 year corrosion warranty. Anything over 5 years will unlikely be repaired.

Have a very long and close look around the panels before you buy. I would be surprised if it has no bubbles and no previous repairs. I don't mean to sound negative, but if paintwork needs to be done you should negotiate the price.


deeps

5,393 posts

242 months

Monday 4th April 2022
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Also, I'm not sure that if you buy privately McLaren will let you renew the warranty straight away, it's around 5k with the inspection fee.

Reason I mention that is that I know that if you buy from a non McLaren dealership they won't let you renew the warranty for 3 months following purchase.

Good luck with it, it's an awesome car!

Streetbeat

899 posts

77 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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Some very spurious info there Deeps.

I bought my 2017 570s last year privately without warranty, i had a multi point inspection at my local Mc dealer (prior to purchase) and was offered the warranty £2985 (mpi fee refunded if i took out the warranty) no nonsense about waiting 3 months and if you take out the warranty before the cars 5th birthday caveat its still £2985 or rising to £3570, so not £5k inc warranty, less than £4k at worst.

The inspection found some corrosion on the front wings, both replaced under warranty and in the last month i have had a rear quarter/both doors repaired under warranty, no questions, no issue.

deeps

5,393 posts

242 months

Wednesday 6th April 2022
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Streetbeat said:
Some very spurious info there Deeps.

I bought my 2017 570s last year privately without warranty, i had a multi point inspection at my local Mc dealer (prior to purchase) and was offered the warranty £2985 (mpi fee refunded if i took out the warranty) no nonsense about waiting 3 months and if you take out the warranty before the cars 5th birthday caveat its still £2985 or rising to £3570, so not £5k inc warranty, less than £4k at worst.

The inspection found some corrosion on the front wings, both replaced under warranty and in the last month i have had a rear quarter/both doors repaired under warranty, no questions, no issue.
I was quoted around 3.6 + 1k inspection fee and possibly + vat! Plus making good any faults found at £200 per hour. But they wouldn't do it until 3 months had passed as I bought from a non McLaren dealer. As said, I wasn't sure if that applied to private purchases with short warranty remaining.

I've since decided not to have the McLaren warranty as in the long run it's poor value.

In the case of the OP, McLaren would almost certainly refuse any corrosion repairs to a new owner of a privately purchased 2016 car. They may honour the repairs if the existing owner bought from McLaren and claims before the sale, depending on his history with McLaren.

Streetbeat

899 posts

77 months

Wednesday 6th April 2022
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deeps said:
I was quoted around 3.6 + 1k inspection fee and possibly + vat! Plus making good any faults found at £200 per hour. But they wouldn't do it until 3 months had passed as I bought from a non McLaren dealer. As said, I wasn't sure if that applied to private purchases with short warranty remaining.

In the case of the OP, McLaren would almost certainly refuse any corrosion repairs to a new owner of a privately purchased 2016 car. They may honour the repairs if the existing owner bought from McLaren and claims before the sale, depending on his history with McLaren.
Which Mclaren dealer was this?

I do not believe you can definitively say Mclaren will refuse any corrosion repairs, they are basically defaulting on their own warranty which would not stand up in any court, where they bought it from is irrelevent to the equation and warranty.

Implus1

179 posts

41 months

Wednesday 6th April 2022
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I think he is saying that the McLaren paint warranty only covers cosmetic corrosion for vehicles up to 5 years old (they were still covering vehicles older than 5 years old up to about 18 months ago out of goodwill) but that if you bought from a McLaren dealer or had a relationship with one, they may be able to cover it out of goodwill, which you wouldn't get if you purchased from an independent/privately.

RSbandit

2,612 posts

133 months

Wednesday 6th April 2022
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I thought the corrosion warranty was for 10 years? I had a few panels replaced last summer on a 2016 car no questions asked. I'd be pretty annoyed if they weren't honoring that on any car up to 10 yrs old.

Streetbeat

899 posts

77 months

Wednesday 6th April 2022
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RSbandit said:
I thought the corrosion warranty was for 10 years? I had a few panels replaced last summer on a 2016 car no questions asked. I'd be pretty annoyed if they weren't honoring that on any car up to 10 yrs old.
I seem to recall reading on here, the 10 year warranty is made up of, 5 year paint defect no questions asked panel replacement, 5 year corrosion.

I know this changed a little towards the end of last year and it was repair (if possible) rather than straight replacement and you were border line on the 5 years, but if you have corrosion its covered under the 10 year body warranty, although the work does have to be authorised by Mclaren, there is no reason to believe they wont honour this and if they are i would like to see an email to that effect.

Wheelspinning

1,214 posts

31 months

Wednesday 6th April 2022
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deeps said:
Streetbeat said:
Some very spurious info there Deeps.

I bought my 2017 570s last year privately without warranty, i had a multi point inspection at my local Mc dealer (prior to purchase) and was offered the warranty £2985 (mpi fee refunded if i took out the warranty) no nonsense about waiting 3 months and if you take out the warranty before the cars 5th birthday caveat its still £2985 or rising to £3570, so not £5k inc warranty, less than £4k at worst.

The inspection found some corrosion on the front wings, both replaced under warranty and in the last month i have had a rear quarter/both doors repaired under warranty, no questions, no issue.
I was quoted around 3.6 + 1k inspection fee and possibly + vat! Plus making good any faults found at £200 per hour. But they wouldn't do it until 3 months had passed as I bought from a non McLaren dealer. As said, I wasn't sure if that applied to private purchases with short warranty remaining.

I've since decided not to have the McLaren warranty as in the long run it's poor value.

In the case of the OP, McLaren would almost certainly refuse any corrosion repairs to a new owner of a privately purchased 2016 car. They may honour the repairs if the existing owner bought from McLaren and claims before the sale, depending on his history with McLaren.
A lot of misinformation there.

Streetbeat is correct about warranty costs and that if extended 1 day before its 5th birthday it shall be at the lower price.

The warranty must have a min of 3 months remaining to be transfered to the new owner if purchasing privately.

Specialists or trade sales cannot transfer the warranty even if it has 11months remaining unless its SOR and they be a bit sneaky and ask the existing owner to transfer remaining warranty to new owner, again must have more than 3 months remaining.

As long is car has been serviced at correct intervals the paint / corrosion warranty shall be honoured whether bought privately or trade, and regardless if it has extended warranty or not, although having the extended warranty makes it easier.

Warranty expensive but comprehensive; I would have it in place for at least a year after any purchase if out of manufacturers warranty.

Warranty can be added if out of warranty but as mentioned it must have an inspection ( which is reduced from warranty cost if purchased ) and all noted remedial works are undertaken prior to warranty being applied.

I shall not be extending the warranty this year as the car has been faultless in the last year, like lots of other McLarens.

Streetbeat

899 posts

77 months

Wednesday 6th April 2022
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Wheelspinning said:
( which is reduced from warranty cost if purchased )
Slight caveat on that, it is dealer dependent, when i was enquiring at my time of purchase, Hatfield wouldnt, New Forest would.

Will be no surprise that New Forest have been my go to dealer on that basis and have always been first class which is also worth a mention.

deeps

5,393 posts

242 months

Wednesday 6th April 2022
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Note to the OP: for some reason some people think I'm spreading misinformation, I can assure you I am not.

Their experiences are obviously different to mine, that doesn't make them right.

My warranty quote was from Leeds McLaren several weeks ago. As said, I'm happy to live without the warranty now.

My 570s is also on a 16 plate and I was refused corrosion repairs that had bubbled the paint, last week at Rybrook Maclaren even though they had just carried out 5k worth of work. I was sent an email expressing how hard they had tried for me.

After expressing my disappointment that they don't honour their 10 year corrosion warranty, and that it will likely put me off a 720 purchase later this year in favour of a Lamborghini Evo, the manager called me and explained that as I was a new owner and had bought from a non McLaren dealership, that weighed against me.

It's actually only a small cauliflower on the wing which I will have done at my local trusted bodyshop. By the way, McLaren want the car for between 4 to 6 weeks to do warranty paintwork and transport the vehicle to their Birmingham branch which I thought was a piss take in itself for such a tiny job.

So, as said before, have a good look around the panels because any corrosion bubbling will likely not be repaired under McLaren warranty.







Austin_Metro

1,219 posts

49 months

Thursday 7th April 2022
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Deeps, what does this paint damage look like. Can you see it on a photo? Just interested!

deeps

5,393 posts

242 months

Thursday 7th April 2022
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Austin_Metro said:
Deeps, what does this paint damage look like. Can you see it on a photo? Just interested!
It probably wouldn't show on a photo as the car is white (I love the white 570s with contrasting black parts) but it's a classic alloy corrosion cauliflower type bubbling. I didn't even notice when I inspected the car prior to purchase, and my paint shop guy had to walk round the car 3 times to find it smile There's no damage to the paint, just a raised area from corrosion underneath the surface. Not a big job.


targarama

14,635 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th April 2022
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deeps said:
Note to the OP: for some reason some people think I'm spreading misinformation, I can assure you I am not.

Their experiences are obviously different to mine, that doesn't make them right.

My warranty quote was from Leeds McLaren several weeks ago. As said, I'm happy to live without the warranty now.

My 570s is also on a 16 plate and I was refused corrosion repairs that had bubbled the paint, last week at Rybrook Maclaren even though they had just carried out 5k worth of work. I was sent an email expressing how hard they had tried for me.

After expressing my disappointment that they don't honour their 10 year corrosion warranty, and that it will likely put me off a 720 purchase later this year in favour of a Lamborghini Evo, the manager called me and explained that as I was a new owner and had bought from a non McLaren dealership, that weighed against me.

It's actually only a small cauliflower on the wing which I will have done at my local trusted bodyshop. By the way, McLaren want the car for between 4 to 6 weeks to do warranty paintwork and transport the vehicle to their Birmingham branch which I thought was a piss take in itself for such a tiny job.

So, as said before, have a good look around the panels because any corrosion bubbling will likely not be repaired under McLaren warranty.
I won't be a tiny job, they will replace and paint each panel that has this corrosion. Also the paint colours are not released so you will need to use a McLaren bodyshop, the one McBrum uses is the best out there (same place Shmee had his resprays done).

Streetbeat

899 posts

77 months

Thursday 7th April 2022
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deeps said:
Note to the OP: for some reason some people think I'm spreading misinformation, I can assure you I am not.

Their experiences are obviously different to mine, that doesn't make them right.

My warranty quote was from Leeds McLaren several weeks ago. As said, I'm happy to live without the warranty now.

My 570s is also on a 16 plate and I was refused corrosion repairs that had bubbled the paint, last week at Rybrook Maclaren even though they had just carried out 5k worth of work. I was sent an email expressing how hard they had tried for me.

After expressing my disappointment that they don't honour their 10 year corrosion warranty, and that it will likely put me off a 720 purchase later this year in favour of a Lamborghini Evo, the manager called me and explained that as I was a new owner and had bought from a non McLaren dealership, that weighed against me.

It's actually only a small cauliflower on the wing which I will have done at my local trusted bodyshop. By the way, McLaren want the car for between 4 to 6 weeks to do warranty paintwork and transport the vehicle to their Birmingham branch which I thought was a piss take in itself for such a tiny job.

So, as said before, have a good look around the panels because any corrosion bubbling will likely not be repaired under McLaren warranty.
Sounds to me like the dealer getting bent out of shape because you didnt buy from them and no amount of, i will be upgrading to a 720s is going to do it, i am sure theve heard it all before.

I would ask to see the email chain from Mclaren for the refusal and why or contact Mclaren yourself to enquire why its been refused, as per other replies, owners ARE having warranty work carried out, i suspect this a dealer thing rather than a Mclaren thing!

deeps

5,393 posts

242 months

Thursday 7th April 2022
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targarama said:
I won't be a tiny job, they will replace and paint each panel that has this corrosion. Also the paint colours are not released so you will need to use a McLaren bodyshop, the one McBrum uses is the best out there (same place Shmee had his resprays done).
What I meant was in the real world it's a tiny job. Yes I know McLaren replace the wing and make it last 6 weeks.

Yes I heard about the paint code secret. Do any other manufacturers do that? The manager of Rybrook did say he would ask Brum for the paint code for me.

Edited by deeps on Thursday 7th April 13:23

deeps

5,393 posts

242 months

Thursday 7th April 2022
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Streetbeat said:
Sounds to me like the dealer getting bent out of shape because you didnt buy from them and no amount of, i will be upgrading to a 720s is going to do it, i am sure theve heard it all before.

I would ask to see the email chain from Mclaren for the refusal and why or contact Mclaren yourself to enquire why its been refused, as per other replies, owners ARE having warranty work carried out, i suspect this a dealer thing rather than a Mclaren thing!
I was just telling him the truth, they've lost a 720s sale.

I think it's a McLaren thing, I've heard they've been inundated with repairs and are now wriggling out of anything over 5 years old, unless it's a McLaren dealer supplied car with a fairly long term owner.

I wonder if McLaren have sorted the corrosion problem on their newer cars, I suspect not.

I totally love this car but potential bubbling paint issues would be enough to make me look elsewhere, as said Lambo most likely.