Anyone have an outlook for old Sports Series range?
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Pflanzgarten said:
34,000 milesMissed service in 2022
Bland colour
Seems about right
Grey_Area said:
Congrats, and in answer to your questions
I would, in no particular order:
Get it independantly inspected, I'm a V-Engineering fan.
Get PPF, at least on the front, as it can take a bit of a beating over time.
Keep the battery charged, I go for the one hour every 2-3 days approach using an automated home assistant system.
Watch the oil levels, and get used to how much it consumes, easy to overlook.
Don't use suncream if you've an alcantara steeering wheel, or make sure hands are dry before driving, can mat the fabric if not looked after.
If you think you might need lift, just flick the lever up, and dont procrastinate.....
Think about joining DU, great bunch of folks on there, and plenty of events to get to, many are actually free... Brands GT end the like.
And don't forget to enjoy it...
What he said! Although I leave mine permanently on the charger if not using the car for more than a few days and have had zero electrical problems over the two years I've had it. I would, in no particular order:
Get it independantly inspected, I'm a V-Engineering fan.
Get PPF, at least on the front, as it can take a bit of a beating over time.
Keep the battery charged, I go for the one hour every 2-3 days approach using an automated home assistant system.
Watch the oil levels, and get used to how much it consumes, easy to overlook.
Don't use suncream if you've an alcantara steeering wheel, or make sure hands are dry before driving, can mat the fabric if not looked after.
If you think you might need lift, just flick the lever up, and dont procrastinate.....
Think about joining DU, great bunch of folks on there, and plenty of events to get to, many are actually free... Brands GT end the like.
And don't forget to enjoy it...
It's easy to miss that you can activate lift simply by flicking the lever in default mode as described by Gray_Area. It's a common misconception that you need to "delve into the menus" to do it but that's only required if you've already gone into the menus for something else.
Nuttbelle said:
P1 seats and a coupe makes it ultra rare so I would say its a bargain even with high mileage TBH
P1 seats nice to have alright but the main reason the 650s coupe is rare is because everyone ordered the more desirable Spider when new ! Price looks about right to me too. 
drcarrera said:
What he said! Although I leave mine permanently on the charger if not using the car for more than a few days and have had zero electrical problems over the two years I've had it.
It's easy to miss that you can activate lift simply by flicking the lever in default mode as described by Gray_Area. It's a common misconception that you need to "delve into the menus" to do it but that's only required if you've already gone into the menus for something else.
Yes I've begun playing around with the settings. The multiple options for things were a bit overwhelming the first day but getting used to it very quicklyIt's easy to miss that you can activate lift simply by flicking the lever in default mode as described by Gray_Area. It's a common misconception that you need to "delve into the menus" to do it but that's only required if you've already gone into the menus for something else.
Initial thoughts are:
Happy got manual seats - heard they sit lower then adjustable and no gremlins to go wrong. Ironically manual seats have an electronic up/down, and you have manual incline/recline and forward/back. More then adequate, especially for average height
Useful different ways of unlock/locking - what do people prefer? For entry: 1) Keyless clearly great..just go up to door press button and pull door up. 2) Otherwise Ive tried double tapping unlock and it unlocks the doors + unhinges so its a more elegant lighter push to open the car.
I do not get the purpose of single tapping the fob to unlock the car doors. Can someone explain this Third Option. Why would you unlock the doors but you would still have to then push the button under the door to open (Extra step in touching fob then just approaching door with key in pocket of #1)
For locking: 1) Keyless by tapping inside sensor. I've adjusted external lights to be off + silent lock on, so with keyless it just locks with mirrors folding but no other visual signals (flashing lights or daytime on) 2) Tapping lock (has all the flashing lights and daytime )
Mine has a Larini exhaust fitted. AFAIK just the gt1 exhaust and silencer/muffler removed. Its honestly great. It seemed incredibly loud first day given I was coming from Porsche, but aside from the cold start (which is deafening) it is manageable and pleasant (befitting supercar sound) without being obnoxious and obtrusive. This happened to be fitted already (I'm the 3rd owner only) and it has been like that for good 3+ years , serviced by Mclaren and commented on the good fit job. I wanted sports exhaust as a minimum but that was just my personal preference. From what I have seen online it seems Larini is on the louder sides of custom exhaust? or at least louder then official sports exhaust. I guess you can de cat it and do other more complex mods to the exhaust for even more loudness
I am surprised at the storage space. Massive shelf behind the seats, massive front boot. This along with many other things like servicing cost/ownership cost (Assuming everything runs good) I feel is another misnomer spread online about mcls. Is there a way however to fold the seats forward or do you have to just crank the manual lever to recline the seat?
How accurate is the battery health time of charge remaining? I guess better not to take risks, given nothing has gone with this cars battery in the 6y and nothing picked up in PPI, was advised by previous owner ~14 days no charge is ok but anymore try to plug in or top up.
Edited by dng992 on Sunday 25th June 11:20
drcarrera said:
What he said! Although I leave mine permanently on the charger if not using the car for more than a few days and have had zero electrical problems over the two years I've had it.
It's easy to miss that you can activate lift simply by flicking the lever in default mode as described by Gray_Area. It's a common misconception that you need to "delve into the menus" to do it but that's only required if you've already gone into the menus for something else.
Yes so even in home screen, stalk up once is lift? then stalk up then down is lower. Auto reverses lift once you get above 37mph+ rightIt's easy to miss that you can activate lift simply by flicking the lever in default mode as described by Gray_Area. It's a common misconception that you need to "delve into the menus" to do it but that's only required if you've already gone into the menus for something else.
I also found when going through road width restrictions to just twist the dial to close in the mirrors, given it does it so quickly. but im not surely if the wing mirrors open really add width? The length of the car is just perfect , still taking some time to get used to width but again its nothing extreme I feel? still very early days in my use of it
Grey_Area said:
Congrats, and in answer to your questions
I would, in no particular order:
Get it independantly inspected, I'm a V-Engineering fan.
Get PPF, at least on the front, as it can take a bit of a beating over time.
Keep the battery charged, I go for the one hour every 2-3 days approach using an automated home assistant system.
Watch the oil levels, and get used to how much it consumes, easy to overlook.
Don't use suncream if you've an alcantara steeering wheel, or make sure hands are dry before driving, can mat the fabric if not looked after.
If you think you might need lift, just flick the lever up, and dont procrastinate.....
Think about joining DU, great bunch of folks on there, and plenty of events to get to, many are actually free... Brands GT end the like.
And don't forget to enjoy it...
How active/good is DU vs Mclaren owners club? I guess joining both doesn't hurt I would, in no particular order:
Get it independantly inspected, I'm a V-Engineering fan.
Get PPF, at least on the front, as it can take a bit of a beating over time.
Keep the battery charged, I go for the one hour every 2-3 days approach using an automated home assistant system.
Watch the oil levels, and get used to how much it consumes, easy to overlook.
Don't use suncream if you've an alcantara steeering wheel, or make sure hands are dry before driving, can mat the fabric if not looked after.
If you think you might need lift, just flick the lever up, and dont procrastinate.....
Think about joining DU, great bunch of folks on there, and plenty of events to get to, many are actually free... Brands GT end the like.
And don't forget to enjoy it...
Agree, I would've preferred manual seats, but had to compromise on that as I wanted a GT.
Steve at V Engineering was just telling me yesterday they rate the Larini exhausts, so sounds like a good result there. I think there are a lot of poorly done systems out there from other brands. If you do want to go further, I'd look into a top exit system a la 600LT - you bring the noise a bit closer to the cabin, and avoid the extra length of the up-and-over that the normal routing does to get over the rear chassis crossmember.
Normally for the nose lift I hold the stalk up to get into lift mode, then release and tap up or down to raise or lower. Works well as long as you aren't already in a submenu.
On my car there is a leather strap at the top of the seat back to pull to let the seat fold forwards.
So far the battery time seems to decline by about one day per day, I've not risked leaving it more than two weeks without being plugged in, given the £3k cost of a replacement lithium battery (although a cheaper lead-acid alternative is possible).
And I agree, I've been surprised how usable my car is, it doesn't look like a car that will swallow ten days' luggage for two and do 35mpg at a motorway cruise. I do think (so far!) that McLarens are a better ownership proposition than their reputation suggests and are undervalued as a result, which is great for enthusiasts
Steve at V Engineering was just telling me yesterday they rate the Larini exhausts, so sounds like a good result there. I think there are a lot of poorly done systems out there from other brands. If you do want to go further, I'd look into a top exit system a la 600LT - you bring the noise a bit closer to the cabin, and avoid the extra length of the up-and-over that the normal routing does to get over the rear chassis crossmember.
Normally for the nose lift I hold the stalk up to get into lift mode, then release and tap up or down to raise or lower. Works well as long as you aren't already in a submenu.
On my car there is a leather strap at the top of the seat back to pull to let the seat fold forwards.
So far the battery time seems to decline by about one day per day, I've not risked leaving it more than two weeks without being plugged in, given the £3k cost of a replacement lithium battery (although a cheaper lead-acid alternative is possible).
And I agree, I've been surprised how usable my car is, it doesn't look like a car that will swallow ten days' luggage for two and do 35mpg at a motorway cruise. I do think (so far!) that McLarens are a better ownership proposition than their reputation suggests and are undervalued as a result, which is great for enthusiasts
dng992 said:
Grey_Area said:
Congrats, and in answer to your questions
I would, in no particular order:
Get it independantly inspected, I'm a V-Engineering fan.
Get PPF, at least on the front, as it can take a bit of a beating over time.
Keep the battery charged, I go for the one hour every 2-3 days approach using an automated home assistant system.
Watch the oil levels, and get used to how much it consumes, easy to overlook.
Don't use suncream if you've an alcantara steeering wheel, or make sure hands are dry before driving, can mat the fabric if not looked after.
If you think you might need lift, just flick the lever up, and dont procrastinate.....
Think about joining DU, great bunch of folks on there, and plenty of events to get to, many are actually free... Brands GT end the like.
And don't forget to enjoy it...
How active/good is DU vs Mclaren owners club? I guess joining both doesn't hurt I would, in no particular order:
Get it independantly inspected, I'm a V-Engineering fan.
Get PPF, at least on the front, as it can take a bit of a beating over time.
Keep the battery charged, I go for the one hour every 2-3 days approach using an automated home assistant system.
Watch the oil levels, and get used to how much it consumes, easy to overlook.
Don't use suncream if you've an alcantara steeering wheel, or make sure hands are dry before driving, can mat the fabric if not looked after.
If you think you might need lift, just flick the lever up, and dont procrastinate.....
Think about joining DU, great bunch of folks on there, and plenty of events to get to, many are actually free... Brands GT end the like.
And don't forget to enjoy it...
Though being a member of both means there's more overal choice of events etc.
Edited by Grey_Area on Sunday 25th June 16:53
Nuttbelle said:
akadk said:
Pflanzgarten said:
34,000 milesMissed service in 2022
Bland colour
Seems about right
Edited by GhostWKD on Sunday 25th June 23:39
GhostWKD said:
Nuttbelle said:
akadk said:
Pflanzgarten said:
34,000 milesMissed service in 2022
Bland colour
Seems about right
Edited by GhostWKD on Sunday 25th June 23:39
That was when the prices were still pretty high for most used cars.
Nuttbelle said:
akadk said:
34,000 miles
Missed service in 2022
Bland colour
Seems about right
P1 seats and a coupe makes it ultra rare so I would say its a bargain even with high mileage TBHMissed service in 2022
Bland colour
Seems about right
Agree it’s a bargain with those, assuming the car is straight
akadk said:
Nuttbelle said:
akadk said:
34,000 miles
Missed service in 2022
Bland colour
Seems about right
P1 seats and a coupe makes it ultra rare so I would say its a bargain even with high mileage TBHMissed service in 2022
Bland colour
Seems about right
Agree it’s a bargain with those, assuming the car is straight
seller said:
our 650S will go to the renowned Thorney Motorsport for a full service and check over prior to handover. , The service history is as follows:-, 1. 14/11/2014 - del miles - Mclaren, 2. 04/09/2015 - 4497 miles - McLaren, 3. 01/08/2016 - 6439 miles - McLaren, 4. 04/07/2017 - 16336 miles - McLaren, 5. 08/06/2018 - 19734 miles - McLaren , 6. 26/04/2019 - 21352 miles - McLaren, 7. 19/05/2020 - 26518 miles - McLaren, 8. 13/05/2021 - 30415 miles - McLaren
Newb question - but aside from waiting to warm the car up (Temps and water 80+?) before driving hard, do you guys wait idle until the rev counter drops to nearer 1k rpm? or is that more folklore and just driving immediately slowly away of course is fine?
Also driving off away from the car is parked, the electronic parking is displayed on. You can just drive away without physically turning electronic parking off safely right?
Also driving off away from the car is parked, the electronic parking is displayed on. You can just drive away without physically turning electronic parking off safely right?
I don't sit around at cold idle, I start the engine and set off, driving normally.
I do tend to use the auto handbrake release - leave the car in D/1, brake to a halt, apply the handbrake, release the footbrake. Then when the light changes just press the accelerator and it releases the handbrake and pulls away.
Warning, if you don't have your seatbelt on (I think) it won't do this, so don't mash the throttle in this case as you'll drag the car against the handbrake.
The most mechanically sympathetic thing to do is to start driving the car (gently) as soon as you can after starting it. Not only does it warm the car up faster which is only a good thing, your oil pressure is generally lowest when at idle RPM so you're getting much more engine lubrication by driving it. You're also warming up the gearbox etc by driving, something you're not going to really achieve parked on your driveway idling.
Some other newb questions:
do people leave stop/start function on - is it more mpg efficient with it on? but then the engine has to turn off and restart so that would be less? what is the actual purpose of having it haha given I know so many dislike it
what are peoples preferred setup for handling/powertrain? So far I've just played around with comfort and sport on each one...
do people leave stop/start function on - is it more mpg efficient with it on? but then the engine has to turn off and restart so that would be less? what is the actual purpose of having it haha given I know so many dislike it
what are peoples preferred setup for handling/powertrain? So far I've just played around with comfort and sport on each one...
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