Anyone have an outlook for old Sports Series range?
Discussion
samoht said:
Sports Series weekly market update since Sat 19th:
14 cars sold and 20 new listings on AT, so still more cars coming to market than taken off although 3:2 rather than 3:1 last week. As above, two of the 'new' listings are private sales that were previously listed (presumably SOR) at dealers; one sold car was previously 'sold' so presumably re-listed.
Of the six 570S coupes sold, four are in the £90-93k bracket. One of the two £100k+ cars is the Vega Blue 2019 mode that Streetbeat picked out last week, so obviously he's in tune with the market. I can't explain why the 14k mile 2017 model at Brookspeed was worth £105k to someone, unless they really like the factory aero parts it had.
Two Spiders sold at £105k, almost the cheapest available, plus a 2020 car at £115k (Dick Lovett). 600LTs again two towards the lower end of the price range.
Two 570GTs sold, both later ceramic-braked cars listed over £100k. And apparently someone paid £100k for a white 2019 540C.
Price reductions across the board; biggest drop is £10k off the blue Spider at George Kingsley, but was well overpriced at £135k previously. I do think the 570 Spider market has slid down a touch, unsurprisingly.
My car of the week is an example of this, a nicely specced 2017 Spider reduced to £105k on 20k miles (click for ad):
Another interesting car: a 540C on 55,000 miles - seems v poor value to me, like most 540Cs, but proof these cars can take miles.
Overall I'd say sellers seem to outnumber buyers, so if you want to sell then your car needs to represent good value relative to the rest of the market, and the trend seems likely gradually downwards as we head into the Christmas period.
(Expand for Sold, New and Reduced listings)
Sold Cars (14) (assumed sold as ad pulled from AT)
570S for £89,850 2016 on 16,134 miles at McLaren Birmingham pic
570S for £89,950 2016 on 17,500 miles at Tom Hartley pic
570S for £91,995 2016 on 19,650 miles at Anthony James Cars Ltd pic
570S for £92,990 2017 on - miles at SCUDERIA PRESTIGE AUTOMOBILE LTD pic
570S for £104,950 2017 on 14,484 miles at Brookspeed pic
570S for £109,990 2019 on 9,989 miles at McLaren Glasgow pic
570S Spider for £104,949 2018 on 11,900 miles at Private seller pic
570S Spider for £104,950 2018 on 7,000 miles at Dap Cars Ltd pic
570S Spider for £114,990 2020 on 8,897 miles at Dick Lovett Specialist Cars pic
570GT for £107,995 2019 on 11,500 miles at Polo Prestige pic
570GT for £109,900 2018 on 7,990 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield pic
600LT for £131,950 2018 on 11,750 miles at ALASTAIR BOLS LIMITED pic
600LT for £142,990 2018 on 9,342 miles at McLaren Glasgow pic
540C for £99,990 2019 on 6,000 miles at Autocentre (U.K.) Limited pic
New Listings (20)
570S for £89,000 2017 on 16,700 miles at Mclaren Manchester ad
570S for £89,950 2016 on 14,400 miles at McLaren New Forest ad
570S for £94,995 2019 on 19,000 miles at Private seller ad
570S for £97,900 2018 on 5,424 miles at Gve London Ltd ad
570S for £102,850 2018 on 8,671 miles at McLaren Birmingham ad
570S for £104,900 2018 on 12,645 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield ad
570S for £127,950 2020 on 2,840 miles at Hendy Performance Poole ad
570S Spider for £107,995 2018 on 12,000 miles at LEE GAME PRESTIGE LTD ad
570S Spider for £110,000 2018 on 17,000 miles at Private seller ad
570S Spider for £112,900 2017 on 9,870 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield ad
570S Spider for £116,950 2018 on 9,852 miles at Mclaren Ascot ad
570S Spider for £118,000 2019 on 7,300 miles at Private seller ad
570GT for £85,000 2017 on 16,000 miles at Private seller ad
570GT for £86,500 2016 on 18,000 miles at Private seller ad
570GT for £99,995 2017 on 3,500 miles at DMB Collection ad
570GT for £112,990 2019 on 14,863 miles at McLaren Leeds ad
600LT for £139,990 2018 on 9,412 miles at McLaren Glasgow ad
600LT for £142,990 2019 on 303 miles at McLaren Glasgow ad
540C for £82,995 2018 on 33,600 miles at Ellis Ashton Motor Company ad
540C for £94,850 2018 on 19,000 miles at 442 Sports Cars ad
Price Reductions (18)
570S reduced from £83,500 to £81,995 2015 on 16,500 miles at Private seller ad
570S reduced from £83,495 to £82,495 2018 on 27,000 miles at Veloce Auto ad
570S reduced from £91,995 to £89,995 2017 on 13,000 miles at Kaim Park Garage ad
570S reduced from £109,995 to £106,995 2019 on 5,000 miles at A-Group ad
570S Spider reduced from £106,990 to £104,940 2018 on 20,000 miles at Steel City Sports And Prestige ad
570S Spider reduced from £109,990 to £107,990 2019 on 26,351 miles at McLaren Glasgow ad
570S Spider reduced from £112,999 to £109,999 2018 on 12,300 miles at Phoenix RC Limited ad
570S Spider reduced from £122,950 to £121,950 2020 on 10,562 miles at Mclaren London ad
570S Spider reduced from £134,996 to £124,996 2018 on 11,557 miles at George Kingsley Prestige & Performance ad
570GT reduced from £82,495 to £81,995 2017 on 27,000 miles at Veloce Auto ad
570GT reduced from £92,950 to £89,950 2017 on 10,250 miles at McLaren New Forest ad
570GT reduced from £94,995 to £92,995 2017 on 10,300 miles at Romans Of St Albans ad
570GT reduced from £97,650 to £96,750 2019 on 31,000 miles at FTC Prestige & Performance Cars ad
570GT reduced from £112,990 to £109,990 2020 on 14,066 miles at McLaren Glasgow ad
600LT reduced from £144,945 to £139,945 2019 on 11,000 miles at Pescara ad
600LT reduced from £144,950 to £139,950 2019 on 7,168 miles at Romans International ad
540C reduced from £87,995 to £84,995 2017 on 24,700 miles at Romans Of St Albans ad
540C reduced from £90,480 to £87,980 2017 on 14,000 miles at Auto100.Co.Uk ad
Not sure if I'll keep doing this, it can be time consuming trying to unwind re-listed cars etc and seems like mostly a re-statement of the obvious, good value cars sell, poor value ones don't
appreciate the updates, im sure others also. keep doing14 cars sold and 20 new listings on AT, so still more cars coming to market than taken off although 3:2 rather than 3:1 last week. As above, two of the 'new' listings are private sales that were previously listed (presumably SOR) at dealers; one sold car was previously 'sold' so presumably re-listed.
Of the six 570S coupes sold, four are in the £90-93k bracket. One of the two £100k+ cars is the Vega Blue 2019 mode that Streetbeat picked out last week, so obviously he's in tune with the market. I can't explain why the 14k mile 2017 model at Brookspeed was worth £105k to someone, unless they really like the factory aero parts it had.
Two Spiders sold at £105k, almost the cheapest available, plus a 2020 car at £115k (Dick Lovett). 600LTs again two towards the lower end of the price range.
Two 570GTs sold, both later ceramic-braked cars listed over £100k. And apparently someone paid £100k for a white 2019 540C.
Price reductions across the board; biggest drop is £10k off the blue Spider at George Kingsley, but was well overpriced at £135k previously. I do think the 570 Spider market has slid down a touch, unsurprisingly.
My car of the week is an example of this, a nicely specced 2017 Spider reduced to £105k on 20k miles (click for ad):
Another interesting car: a 540C on 55,000 miles - seems v poor value to me, like most 540Cs, but proof these cars can take miles.
Overall I'd say sellers seem to outnumber buyers, so if you want to sell then your car needs to represent good value relative to the rest of the market, and the trend seems likely gradually downwards as we head into the Christmas period.
(Expand for Sold, New and Reduced listings)
Sold Cars (14) (assumed sold as ad pulled from AT)
570S for £89,850 2016 on 16,134 miles at McLaren Birmingham pic
570S for £89,950 2016 on 17,500 miles at Tom Hartley pic
570S for £91,995 2016 on 19,650 miles at Anthony James Cars Ltd pic
570S for £92,990 2017 on - miles at SCUDERIA PRESTIGE AUTOMOBILE LTD pic
570S for £104,950 2017 on 14,484 miles at Brookspeed pic
570S for £109,990 2019 on 9,989 miles at McLaren Glasgow pic
570S Spider for £104,949 2018 on 11,900 miles at Private seller pic
570S Spider for £104,950 2018 on 7,000 miles at Dap Cars Ltd pic
570S Spider for £114,990 2020 on 8,897 miles at Dick Lovett Specialist Cars pic
570GT for £107,995 2019 on 11,500 miles at Polo Prestige pic
570GT for £109,900 2018 on 7,990 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield pic
600LT for £131,950 2018 on 11,750 miles at ALASTAIR BOLS LIMITED pic
600LT for £142,990 2018 on 9,342 miles at McLaren Glasgow pic
540C for £99,990 2019 on 6,000 miles at Autocentre (U.K.) Limited pic
New Listings (20)
570S for £89,000 2017 on 16,700 miles at Mclaren Manchester ad
570S for £89,950 2016 on 14,400 miles at McLaren New Forest ad
570S for £94,995 2019 on 19,000 miles at Private seller ad
570S for £97,900 2018 on 5,424 miles at Gve London Ltd ad
570S for £102,850 2018 on 8,671 miles at McLaren Birmingham ad
570S for £104,900 2018 on 12,645 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield ad
570S for £127,950 2020 on 2,840 miles at Hendy Performance Poole ad
570S Spider for £107,995 2018 on 12,000 miles at LEE GAME PRESTIGE LTD ad
570S Spider for £110,000 2018 on 17,000 miles at Private seller ad
570S Spider for £112,900 2017 on 9,870 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield ad
570S Spider for £116,950 2018 on 9,852 miles at Mclaren Ascot ad
570S Spider for £118,000 2019 on 7,300 miles at Private seller ad
570GT for £85,000 2017 on 16,000 miles at Private seller ad
570GT for £86,500 2016 on 18,000 miles at Private seller ad
570GT for £99,995 2017 on 3,500 miles at DMB Collection ad
570GT for £112,990 2019 on 14,863 miles at McLaren Leeds ad
600LT for £139,990 2018 on 9,412 miles at McLaren Glasgow ad
600LT for £142,990 2019 on 303 miles at McLaren Glasgow ad
540C for £82,995 2018 on 33,600 miles at Ellis Ashton Motor Company ad
540C for £94,850 2018 on 19,000 miles at 442 Sports Cars ad
Price Reductions (18)
570S reduced from £83,500 to £81,995 2015 on 16,500 miles at Private seller ad
570S reduced from £83,495 to £82,495 2018 on 27,000 miles at Veloce Auto ad
570S reduced from £91,995 to £89,995 2017 on 13,000 miles at Kaim Park Garage ad
570S reduced from £109,995 to £106,995 2019 on 5,000 miles at A-Group ad
570S Spider reduced from £106,990 to £104,940 2018 on 20,000 miles at Steel City Sports And Prestige ad
570S Spider reduced from £109,990 to £107,990 2019 on 26,351 miles at McLaren Glasgow ad
570S Spider reduced from £112,999 to £109,999 2018 on 12,300 miles at Phoenix RC Limited ad
570S Spider reduced from £122,950 to £121,950 2020 on 10,562 miles at Mclaren London ad
570S Spider reduced from £134,996 to £124,996 2018 on 11,557 miles at George Kingsley Prestige & Performance ad
570GT reduced from £82,495 to £81,995 2017 on 27,000 miles at Veloce Auto ad
570GT reduced from £92,950 to £89,950 2017 on 10,250 miles at McLaren New Forest ad
570GT reduced from £94,995 to £92,995 2017 on 10,300 miles at Romans Of St Albans ad
570GT reduced from £97,650 to £96,750 2019 on 31,000 miles at FTC Prestige & Performance Cars ad
570GT reduced from £112,990 to £109,990 2020 on 14,066 miles at McLaren Glasgow ad
600LT reduced from £144,945 to £139,945 2019 on 11,000 miles at Pescara ad
600LT reduced from £144,950 to £139,950 2019 on 7,168 miles at Romans International ad
540C reduced from £87,995 to £84,995 2017 on 24,700 miles at Romans Of St Albans ad
540C reduced from £90,480 to £87,980 2017 on 14,000 miles at Auto100.Co.Uk ad
Not sure if I'll keep doing this, it can be time consuming trying to unwind re-listed cars etc and seems like mostly a re-statement of the obvious, good value cars sell, poor value ones don't
samoht said:
Sports Series weekly market update since Sat 19th:
Of the six 570S coupes sold, four are in the £90-93k bracket. One of the two £100k+ cars is the Vega Blue 2019 mode that Streetbeat picked out last week, so obviously he's in tune with the market. I can't explain why the 14k mile 2017 model at Brookspeed was worth £105k to someone, unless they really like the factory aero parts it had.
Great detail as ever.Of the six 570S coupes sold, four are in the £90-93k bracket. One of the two £100k+ cars is the Vega Blue 2019 mode that Streetbeat picked out last week, so obviously he's in tune with the market. I can't explain why the 14k mile 2017 model at Brookspeed was worth £105k to someone, unless they really like the factory aero parts it had.
My prospective is just from being in the market last year and what would have caught my eye.
The Brookspeed car is immaculate, massive spec and mso paint, track pack, the aero is a personal thing, all oem mclaren though so worth good money if you want to sell.
As a comparison, the Grange coupe at the same price, pretty much the same mileage but a year newer looks dull and very droll, I know which I'd rather have despite it being a year newer.
I think you're doing your own head in mate, you've just got to decide on your budget and get the best car that suits you. There is no "correct" price for a 570s or deciphering what the market is and isn't doing, as you've perfectly shown.
I know its a big purchase, but buy on condition and spec, not necessarily mileage and year and if you buy the right car it will always hold the value better and be more desirable than low spec cars in base colours.
AntoDRFC said:
I know it too its mine 
@samoht thanks for the insights and featuring the car. Its certainly very well specced as you highlighted which is nice to see it being appreciated. Thanks.
She’s a stunner
Thanks for posting, I'm only looking at ads online so it's great to hear from people who actually know the cars. And thanks for posting such a nice pic of your car in daylight, it looks like a McLaren brochure shoot. Good luck with the sale, as they say. its mine @samoht thanks for the insights and featuring the car. Its certainly very well specced as you highlighted which is nice to see it being appreciated. Thanks.
She’s a stunner
Streetbeat said:
I think you're doing your own head in mate, you've just got to decide on your budget and get the best car that suits you. There is no "correct" price for a 570s or deciphering what the market is and isn't doing, as you've perfectly shown.
I know its a big purchase, but buy on condition and spec, not necessarily mileage and year and if you buy the right car it will always hold the value better and be more desirable than low spec cars in base colours.
To be clear, I'm not paralysed with indecision, I'm stuck waiting for some Germans to make a garage door and ship it over here, and then for it to be fitted. So I'm 'enjoying' the pre-purchase phase (since I don't have much choice in the matter). I know its a big purchase, but buy on condition and spec, not necessarily mileage and year and if you buy the right car it will always hold the value better and be more desirable than low spec cars in base colours.
I agree about finding the right car and not being hung up on age/mileage. Honestly I was about to go for the VY car before I discovered how long my garage is going to take, so I think once that's sorted, when I see the right car for me I probably won't have too much trouble going for it. I'd like to have a sense of where the market is so I can judge value, but ultimately that'll be secondary to the emotional decision.
DRZ said:
I know the yellow car at Steel City - looks absolutely fantastic in the pictures but like so many McLaren cars it looks even better in the flesh. Sicilian Yellow instead of Volcano might make you think it doesn't pop but it does.
Sicilian is a very much underated and scarce colour, has to be seen in good light to be truely appreciated though.samoht said:
This week's update as requested, changes since Saturday 12th
Sold Cars
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570GT for £91,990 2016 on 17,000 miles at The Auto Lounge Limited pic
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Sold Cars
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570GT for £91,990 2016 on 17,000 miles at The Auto Lounge Limited pic
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samoht said:
Now offered privately for £86.5k https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211221...
Not drawing any conclusions, just posting as a kind of 'correction' to the previous assumption that they had sold.
That's my friends car. Didn't sell through dealer and is now being offering privately. He doesn't live in the UK now hence the sale..... Not drawing any conclusions, just posting as a kind of 'correction' to the previous assumption that they had sold.
neil1jnr said:
samoht said:
Now offered privately for £86.5k https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211221...
Not drawing any conclusions, just posting as a kind of 'correction' to the previous assumption that they had sold.
That's my friends car. Didn't sell through dealer and is now being offering privately. He doesn't live in the UK now hence the sale..... Not drawing any conclusions, just posting as a kind of 'correction' to the previous assumption that they had sold.
Market Update since 26th Nov
(as of yesterday evening)
An even balance of cars newly listed and cars sold this week, at 11 and 12 respectively. The seven 540C/570S/570GT coupes sold are all in the £80-90k band again, this seems to be where the market is for these 2016-17 cars unless there's something special about them. Out of the 17 570S Coupes I've seen go from the market since I started watching, all but three had an asking price less than £95k; of those three exceptions, two were 2019 cars in nice colours, and one was the Brookspeed car with lots of MSO exterior bits.
To my surprise the 55,000 mile black 540C apparently is one of the cars sold, at £80k. Four Spiders sold, again in a tight price band £113-115k; two from McLaren dealers.
Quite a few cars having £2k or £3k taken off their asking prices; what's perhaps notable is that two 600LTs have had £9k and £10k knocked off, following what looks like a bit of a slide in this market. These join four other cars now offered at £140k, with most of the rest in the £140-150k bracket.
My car of the week is one of these reduced-to-£140k 600LTs, a blue 2020 car still under original warranty til March next year and seemingly high spec with lots of carbon options inside and out. 10k miles seems about right for one of these at just under three years old.
(click pic for ad)
Click for Sold, New and Reduced Listings
Sold Cars (12)
540C for £79,950 2016 on 55,000 miles at Bournemouth Cars pic
540C for £84,850 2016 on 13,163 miles at McLaren Birmingham pic
570S for £79,900 2016 on 34,000 miles at Private seller pic
570S for £89,000 2017 on 16,700 miles at Mclaren Manchester pic
570S for £89,990 2016 on 11,564 miles at Phantom Motor Company pic
570GT for £88,991 2017 on 12,200 miles at Scott Hardy Ltd pic
570GT for £89,950 2017 on 10,250 miles at McLaren New Forest pic
570S Spider for £112,900 2017 on 9,870 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield pic
570S Spider for £112,995 2019 on 17,120 miles at BAM Specialist Cars pic
570S Spider for £113,500 2017 on 9,902 miles at Gve London Ltd pic
570S Spider for £114,990 2018 on 8,885 miles at McLaren Leeds
600LT for £147,900 2019 on 9,925 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield pic
New Listings (11)
540C for £89,990 2018 on 15,000 miles at Auto Sportiva ad
540C for £94,990 2019 on 6,000 miles at Autocentre (U.K.) Limited ad
540C for £99,990 2019 on 2,695 miles at Bowker Ribble Valley ad
570S for £81,995 2016 on 20,000 miles at Private seller ad
570S for £84,950 2018 on 15,600 miles at Thorney Motorsport ad
570S for £89,995 2018 on 10,450 miles at MOTORVAULT ad
570S for £94,995 2018 on 27,000 miles at Elm Motor Company ad
570GT for £85,950 2016 on 19,400 miles at Thorney Motorsport ad
570GT for £104,995 2019 on 11,500 miles at Polo Prestige ad
570S Spider for £109,950 2018 on 10,000 miles at Thorney Motorsport ad
570S Spider for £112,990 2017 on 6,345 miles at McLaren Leeds ad
Price Reductions (15)
540C reduced from £94,850 to £93,950 2018 on 19,000 miles at 442 Sports Cars ad
570S reduced from £82,495 to £81,495 2018 on 27,000 miles at Veloce Auto ad
570S reduced from £97,070 to £96,088 2017 on 8,899 miles at The Car Lounge by Lowton Motor Company ad
570S reduced from £106,995 to £103,995 2019 on 5,000 miles at A-Group ad
570S reduced from £114,950 to £109,950 2019 on 12,900 miles at Private seller ad
570GT reduced from £81,995 to £81,495 2017 on 27,000 miles at Veloce Auto ad
570GT reduced from £86,950 to £84,950 2017 on 19,500 miles at Hamptons of Surrey ad
570GT reduced from £99,990 to £97,990 2016 on 2,300 miles at German Car Specialist Ltd ad
570GT reduced from £112,850 to £109,850 2019 on 6,394 miles at McLaren Birmingham ad
570S Spider reduced from £111,900 to £108,900 2018 on 15,000 miles at Gve London Ltd ad
570S Spider reduced from £118,900 to £117,900 2017 on 8,550 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield ad
570S Spider reduced from £123,900 to £120,900 2019 on 8,875 miles at Gve London Ltd ad
570S Spider reduced from £124,850 to £121,850 2019 on 4,211 miles at McLaren Birmingham ad
600LT reduced from £149,995 to £139,895 2020 on 9,920 miles at Image Automotive Holdings Limited ad
600LT reduced from £148,995 to £139,995 2019 on 13,300 miles at Clinkard Ltd ad
Overall, the market is still moving, cars are selling, they just need to be at a good price to do so, and that price level has probably come down gradually over the past weeks and months.
Disclaimers: 'Sold' just means cars that were on AT and are no longer, some of these may not actually have sold. I'm trying to track listings consistently but errors can creep in especially where sellers create a new ad for the same car. I have no special inside market information, only what can be gleaned by checking AT daily.
As ever, corrections and further information welcome, especially if you know specific cars.
(as of yesterday evening)
An even balance of cars newly listed and cars sold this week, at 11 and 12 respectively. The seven 540C/570S/570GT coupes sold are all in the £80-90k band again, this seems to be where the market is for these 2016-17 cars unless there's something special about them. Out of the 17 570S Coupes I've seen go from the market since I started watching, all but three had an asking price less than £95k; of those three exceptions, two were 2019 cars in nice colours, and one was the Brookspeed car with lots of MSO exterior bits.
To my surprise the 55,000 mile black 540C apparently is one of the cars sold, at £80k. Four Spiders sold, again in a tight price band £113-115k; two from McLaren dealers.
Quite a few cars having £2k or £3k taken off their asking prices; what's perhaps notable is that two 600LTs have had £9k and £10k knocked off, following what looks like a bit of a slide in this market. These join four other cars now offered at £140k, with most of the rest in the £140-150k bracket.
My car of the week is one of these reduced-to-£140k 600LTs, a blue 2020 car still under original warranty til March next year and seemingly high spec with lots of carbon options inside and out. 10k miles seems about right for one of these at just under three years old.
(click pic for ad)
Click for Sold, New and Reduced Listings
Sold Cars (12)
540C for £79,950 2016 on 55,000 miles at Bournemouth Cars pic
540C for £84,850 2016 on 13,163 miles at McLaren Birmingham pic
570S for £79,900 2016 on 34,000 miles at Private seller pic
570S for £89,000 2017 on 16,700 miles at Mclaren Manchester pic
570S for £89,990 2016 on 11,564 miles at Phantom Motor Company pic
570GT for £88,991 2017 on 12,200 miles at Scott Hardy Ltd pic
570GT for £89,950 2017 on 10,250 miles at McLaren New Forest pic
570S Spider for £112,900 2017 on 9,870 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield pic
570S Spider for £112,995 2019 on 17,120 miles at BAM Specialist Cars pic
570S Spider for £113,500 2017 on 9,902 miles at Gve London Ltd pic
570S Spider for £114,990 2018 on 8,885 miles at McLaren Leeds
600LT for £147,900 2019 on 9,925 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield pic
New Listings (11)
540C for £89,990 2018 on 15,000 miles at Auto Sportiva ad
540C for £94,990 2019 on 6,000 miles at Autocentre (U.K.) Limited ad
540C for £99,990 2019 on 2,695 miles at Bowker Ribble Valley ad
570S for £81,995 2016 on 20,000 miles at Private seller ad
570S for £84,950 2018 on 15,600 miles at Thorney Motorsport ad
570S for £89,995 2018 on 10,450 miles at MOTORVAULT ad
570S for £94,995 2018 on 27,000 miles at Elm Motor Company ad
570GT for £85,950 2016 on 19,400 miles at Thorney Motorsport ad
570GT for £104,995 2019 on 11,500 miles at Polo Prestige ad
570S Spider for £109,950 2018 on 10,000 miles at Thorney Motorsport ad
570S Spider for £112,990 2017 on 6,345 miles at McLaren Leeds ad
Price Reductions (15)
540C reduced from £94,850 to £93,950 2018 on 19,000 miles at 442 Sports Cars ad
570S reduced from £82,495 to £81,495 2018 on 27,000 miles at Veloce Auto ad
570S reduced from £97,070 to £96,088 2017 on 8,899 miles at The Car Lounge by Lowton Motor Company ad
570S reduced from £106,995 to £103,995 2019 on 5,000 miles at A-Group ad
570S reduced from £114,950 to £109,950 2019 on 12,900 miles at Private seller ad
570GT reduced from £81,995 to £81,495 2017 on 27,000 miles at Veloce Auto ad
570GT reduced from £86,950 to £84,950 2017 on 19,500 miles at Hamptons of Surrey ad
570GT reduced from £99,990 to £97,990 2016 on 2,300 miles at German Car Specialist Ltd ad
570GT reduced from £112,850 to £109,850 2019 on 6,394 miles at McLaren Birmingham ad
570S Spider reduced from £111,900 to £108,900 2018 on 15,000 miles at Gve London Ltd ad
570S Spider reduced from £118,900 to £117,900 2017 on 8,550 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield ad
570S Spider reduced from £123,900 to £120,900 2019 on 8,875 miles at Gve London Ltd ad
570S Spider reduced from £124,850 to £121,850 2019 on 4,211 miles at McLaren Birmingham ad
600LT reduced from £149,995 to £139,895 2020 on 9,920 miles at Image Automotive Holdings Limited ad
600LT reduced from £148,995 to £139,995 2019 on 13,300 miles at Clinkard Ltd ad
Overall, the market is still moving, cars are selling, they just need to be at a good price to do so, and that price level has probably come down gradually over the past weeks and months.
Disclaimers: 'Sold' just means cars that were on AT and are no longer, some of these may not actually have sold. I'm trying to track listings consistently but errors can creep in especially where sellers create a new ad for the same car. I have no special inside market information, only what can be gleaned by checking AT daily.
As ever, corrections and further information welcome, especially if you know specific cars.
Appreciate the time and effort once again!
The Vega Blue one was advertised in April for £158k, then June for £160k. It also seems to have gone from 8220 to 9920 miles between the advert changes, wondering if it was sold in April/May then back up again in June.
A relative of mine knows the previous owner (prior to April) and he only kept it for 5 months as it spent more time in the dealer than on his drive.
It is a lovely colour and spec though.
The Vega Blue one was advertised in April for £158k, then June for £160k. It also seems to have gone from 8220 to 9920 miles between the advert changes, wondering if it was sold in April/May then back up again in June.
A relative of mine knows the previous owner (prior to April) and he only kept it for 5 months as it spent more time in the dealer than on his drive.
It is a lovely colour and spec though.
Edited by mOrtt on Sunday 4th December 13:52
Thanks that’s very interesting. Are your sold prices the last advertised price before they disappeared from AT? In which case the actual sold price may well be lower? I guess the auction sites (CC, The Market etc) may give some more clarity on actual transaction prices .
Also why do you think the 540c doesn’t attract more of a discount to the 570s, that always surprises me?
Also why do you think the 540c doesn’t attract more of a discount to the 570s, that always surprises me?
mOrtt said:
The Vega Blue one was advertised in April for £158k, then June for £160k. It also seems to have gone from 8220 to 9920 miles between the advert changes, wondering if it was sold in April/May then back up again in June.
A relative of mine knows the previous owner (prior to April) and he only kept it for 5 months as it spent more time in the dealer than on his drive.
It is a lovely colour and spec though.
Shame the last owner of the blue 600LT had such trouble. I do wonder to what extent some cars are just 'troublesome' and others are fine, if that was the case then by checking the service history you could potentially identify a 'good' example and anticipate that it would continue to cause few problems.A relative of mine knows the previous owner (prior to April) and he only kept it for 5 months as it spent more time in the dealer than on his drive.
It is a lovely colour and spec though.
Tobermory said:
Thanks that’s very interesting. Are your sold prices the last advertised price before they disappeared from AT? In which case the actual sold price may well be lower? I guess the auction sites (CC, The Market etc) may give some more clarity on actual transaction prices .
Also why do you think the 540c doesn’t attract more of a discount to the 570s, that always surprises me?
Yeah, I'm literally just taking the advertised price on the last day the ad was up. An owner has posted on this thread that his private sale car advertised for £78k went for low-70s-ish, so you're absolutely right that the actual transaction price can be lower. One would assume that the longer a car's been advertised at a given price, the more flexibility there will be on that. Some cars eg the blue 2019 one at McLaren Glasgow came and went within a week, so those presumably sold at or very near the £110k asking price.Also why do you think the 540c doesn’t attract more of a discount to the 570s, that always surprises me?
Auctions have the benefit of revealing the actual transaction price, however I slightly think they may be used to move on cars that are in some way imperfect, also the auction format is relatively less appealing to most buyers so the willingness to pay may be lower. So the actual transaction prices in private/dealer sales may still be higher than auction prices.
I agree the 540C asking prices seem on a par with the 570S, however I have a sense they are slower to sell. My personal theory is that the main thing propping up 540Cs vs 570Ss is the same as props up the Sports Series overall against the 650S, which is that potential buyers are sh!t-scared of McLaren ownership. They want the incredible speed and handling, they're attracted by the low entry price compared to a Ferrari or Lambo, but they're very worried about ruinous ownership costs. Therefore, they're keen to look for the simplest, cheapest-to-maintain McLaren they can find, and hence the 540Cs perhaps don't have to be that much cheaper to find buyers. Although given how few seem to be selling, perhaps the 540C is due for an adjustment and a larger gap.
I was after a car sub £100k and the McLaren was head and shoulders above the opposition, all that came close was the Audi R8 and it wasn’t special enough, that’s in my opinion of course, the Ferrari’s on offer were either much older cars or the California, lambo offerings were just older Gallardo’s.
I plumped for a 650, bought it without a McLaren warranty and probably too many owners, when I’m pissed off with work/life I take it out for an hour or two and thank my lucky stars I own it.
I plumped for a 650, bought it without a McLaren warranty and probably too many owners, when I’m pissed off with work/life I take it out for an hour or two and thank my lucky stars I own it.
Always good to hear from happy owners.
To be clear, when I say potential buyers are scared of McLaren running costs, that is a statement entirely describing the perception of McLaren running costs by non-owners, I'm not making any statement about actual costs. The important thing is that the market is driven by perception not reality, as that's what'll drive most buyers' decision-making.
To be clear, when I say potential buyers are scared of McLaren running costs, that is a statement entirely describing the perception of McLaren running costs by non-owners, I'm not making any statement about actual costs. The important thing is that the market is driven by perception not reality, as that's what'll drive most buyers' decision-making.
Highest running costs for me so far has been the GT3 RS. £1500 for a basic service on a beetle? No ta! Equivalent service on a 458 £1000 on a 600 £800
I think the 600 is lighter on consumables as well certainly lighter than the GT3. A lot of it is perception. McLaren would do well to stop using Car care plan for their warranties and bring them fully in house. Given that the warranty is £3000 you would expect £1500 of this to be the third party warranty companies profit and the VAT. Imagine having a 600LT on £2000 a year warranty or less? Total game changer. Ultimately the ownership costs aren't really much over the competition.
They do seem to get problem cars I think if like me you are lucky to have one of the good ones you keep hold of it! The longer I own my 600 the more I'm growing to appreciate it they really are superb cars. If you suck up the warranty just drive the wheels off the thing and enjoy it. I was out in mine yesterday. People forget that these things are supercars and with supercars you should expect them to come with associated running costs. I really don't think they cost any more to run that a Ferrari or Lambo. Porsche are cheaper but Porsche are merely sports cars not supercars so you can expect these lesser cars to be cheaper to run.
I think the 600 is lighter on consumables as well certainly lighter than the GT3. A lot of it is perception. McLaren would do well to stop using Car care plan for their warranties and bring them fully in house. Given that the warranty is £3000 you would expect £1500 of this to be the third party warranty companies profit and the VAT. Imagine having a 600LT on £2000 a year warranty or less? Total game changer. Ultimately the ownership costs aren't really much over the competition.
They do seem to get problem cars I think if like me you are lucky to have one of the good ones you keep hold of it! The longer I own my 600 the more I'm growing to appreciate it they really are superb cars. If you suck up the warranty just drive the wheels off the thing and enjoy it. I was out in mine yesterday. People forget that these things are supercars and with supercars you should expect them to come with associated running costs. I really don't think they cost any more to run that a Ferrari or Lambo. Porsche are cheaper but Porsche are merely sports cars not supercars so you can expect these lesser cars to be cheaper to run.
Not sure how relevant my thoughts are but I was looking to make a purchase at the start of the year and to be up front and honest I was already thinking more GT car than Sports Car or Super car.
Anyhow I did a brief dalliance with rhe 720 series and ruled them out as too expensive. At the time realistically it was going to cost about £165k for a 720. I ended up paying about £130k on an Aston but I have noticed some 720s are now changing hands in the £130s and lots in the £140s which just wasn't an option for me at the time as they were a good £30k more expensive last winter.
My point is that is quite a hit in less than 1 year but more importantly to me at least is I find it difficult to predict the Mclaren market.
I don't think the factory help themselves with many versions of ultimately the same the car.
Why have 720s dipped this year? Is it newer models out shining it? Would the 720 not always outshine the 570?
I do find it hard with Mclaren and Im Sure others do too ( hence this thread) and until more confidence in the brands financial are achieved I fear this uncertainty will always hold them back and that would be a shame.
I could prob get back most if not all my money back on the car I bought though I would be in a £30k hole had I gone the 720 route and that is scarey to a lot of people.
I do think the 570 prob has a wider appeal.though as t its just cheaper so more potential.buyers but where its going price wise I have no idea
Anyhow I did a brief dalliance with rhe 720 series and ruled them out as too expensive. At the time realistically it was going to cost about £165k for a 720. I ended up paying about £130k on an Aston but I have noticed some 720s are now changing hands in the £130s and lots in the £140s which just wasn't an option for me at the time as they were a good £30k more expensive last winter.
My point is that is quite a hit in less than 1 year but more importantly to me at least is I find it difficult to predict the Mclaren market.
I don't think the factory help themselves with many versions of ultimately the same the car.
Why have 720s dipped this year? Is it newer models out shining it? Would the 720 not always outshine the 570?
I do find it hard with Mclaren and Im Sure others do too ( hence this thread) and until more confidence in the brands financial are achieved I fear this uncertainty will always hold them back and that would be a shame.
I could prob get back most if not all my money back on the car I bought though I would be in a £30k hole had I gone the 720 route and that is scarey to a lot of people.
I do think the 570 prob has a wider appeal.though as t its just cheaper so more potential.buyers but where its going price wise I have no idea
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