So who's getting an i3?

[oop north]

Have had my i3 rex for 28 months and 31k miles now. It’s a 60 so Range on battery alone is 70-ish winter, 90 summer (best I ever got was 99). Rex adds another 70-90 miles. I have a charger at home, occasionally charge when out and about and hardly ever use the rex (have only refilled it about 4 or 5 times in total so am roughly at 99% leccy use (and about 3000mpg). Petrol tank 2 gallons - usually about a tenner. I don’t think of leccy cost to fill battery but I generally get around 4 miles per kWh over a 12-month period (this winter worse than average so currently at 3.4 since last November) and 4.4 or so in the summer. With home leccy at about 12p per kWh that’s roughly 3p per mile or 4p in winter. (there are some charging losses)

Getting a 94 (available late 2016 if I remember correctly) gives a bit over 50% more useable range - on mine the rex kicks in as soon as you get to 6.5% battery - cannot tell you how irritating that is when it does so half a mile from home! Not sure what the % is on a 94 rex

Insurance - mine is contract hire through company so more expensive - I got a quote of 279 last year from aviva before putting the company thing in. Never tried to insure a fiesta though

[anonymous-user]

My i3 lease ends 22 sep

I have enquired about extending it

As it is much cheaper than rates I’m seeing advertised just now (£459.74/mth vs my £261.72/mth 10k/yr 3+23), I’m not optimistic any offer to extend will be forthcoming

Is it just me, or do EV leases all look expensive compared to some of the ice deals around just now?

I’m all for EV, but not so that I would pay more for one for my use patterns than an acceptable ice

[mids]

JPJPJP said:

Is it just me, or do EV leases all look expensive compared to some of the ice deals around just now?

I had a look around when I sold my i3 at the end of last year but couldn't really find anything enticing (compared to when I'd previously looked a couple of years earlier) other than a decent PCH deal on a Golf GTE but even that isn't available anymore.

[Luke.]

JPJPJP said:

My i3 lease ends 22 sep

I have enquired about extending it

As it is much cheaper than rates I’m seeing advertised just now (£459.74/mth vs my £261.72/mth 10k/yr 3+23), I’m not optimistic any offer to extend will be forthcoming

Is it just me, or do EV leases all look expensive compared to some of the ice deals around just now?

I’m all for EV, but not so that I would pay more for one for my use patterns than an acceptable ice

Interesting. Have you been requoted yet? My lease ends 29th September.

[anonymous-user]

Luke. said:

Interesting. Have you been requoted yet? My lease ends 29th September.

Expecting a response ‘within 7 - 10 days’

Will update here if / when I hear anything

[Luke.]

JPJPJP said:

Expecting a response ‘within 7 - 10 days’

Will update here if / when I hear anything

Thank you. That would be great.

[anonymous-user]

Hmmm, anyone else noticing that other drivers really don't like getting overtaken by an i3?

Two occasions recently, both times people doing 40 in 60's, clean over take, empty road, clear signlines, no turn offs, and both times other car accelerates as i pass? Both times said car then tailgates me at over 60mph whereas previously they had been quite happy at 40. Is it because it looks like noddys car?

I'd imagine overtaking someone in a Nissan Leaf was even worse ;-)


Don't seem to get this problem in my 335, although to be fair, that's fast enough that it would take a very determined "thou shall not pass" muppet to hang onto the tailgate...... ;-)

[BigBen]

Max_Torque said:

I'd imagine overtaking someone in a Nissan Leaf was even worse ;-)

As a Leaf driver I can confirm there is little or no chance of overtaking anything aside the odd cyclist.

[Greg_D]

It’s not an i3 thing IMO. I get it in every car I own. An honourable mention also to the ‘motorway pull across and accelerate’ morons.

[anonymous-user]

Greg_D said:

It’s not an i3 thing IMO. I get it in every car I own. An honourable mention also to the ‘motorway pull across and accelerate’ morons.

I would agree. Standard behaviour when overtaking in those circumstances.

[caseys]

Does anyone think the 120Ah will be released this year?

Currently sat on speccing up a 93Ah Suite Rex (there’s £1.50/month difference between base and suite on our lease plan!)

[RossP]

caseys said:

Does anyone think the 120Ah will be released this year?

Currently sat on speccing up a 93Ah Suite Rex (there’s £1.50/month difference between base and suite on our lease plan!)

The rumour mill suggests yes, but nothing from BMW yet

[Greg_D]

RossP said:

caseys said:

Does anyone think the 120Ah will be released this year?

Currently sat on speccing up a 93Ah Suite Rex (there’s £1.50/month difference between base and suite on our lease plan!)

The rumour mill suggests yes, but nothing from BMW yet

and would go some way to explain them 'giving away' a £2k option

[caseys]

Greg_D said:

RossP said:

caseys said:

Does anyone think the 120Ah will be released this year?

Currently sat on speccing up a 93Ah Suite Rex (there’s £1.50/month difference between base and suite on our lease plan!)

The rumour mill suggests yes, but nothing from BMW yet

and would go some way to explain them 'giving away' a £2k option

Ah unsure on that. Mineral Grey metallic paint also costs a whopping £1. Whereas a sunroof costs £25/month extra. I'm guessing the lease company feel certain items really add to resale/residual value than others. It isn't a car from stock, any custom spec I order, be it BEV/REX/i3s the difference in main trim level is £1.50. Also lead time appears to be about 8 weeks?

A colleague has had a smart EV postponed so they can wait a few weeks and give him the bigger capacity model being released for no extra fee.

I've got until start of November to order as that's when my 330e goes back, it'd just be a bit of a kick in the teeth to commit to a 2-3 year lease on a 93Ah to have the 120Ah become available to order just after.

[BishBosh]

Just got my car tax through for the next years road fund and really quite a bit disappointed in that its £440.00...... was told by BMW dealer it would be under the £40k threshold but apparently DVLA take their pricing direct from BMW and that is what it is. If your buying one look out for this as mine is only £200 odd over the £40k....

[caseys]

Oh and can anyone tell me the boot dimensions? All I can find on the net is the 260L space or the 1100L with the seats down

[Greg_D]

BishBosh said:

Just got my car tax through for the next years road fund and really quite a bit disappointed in that its £440.00...... was told by BMW dealer it would be under the £40k threshold but apparently DVLA take their pricing direct from BMW and that is what it is. If your buying one look out for this as mine is only £200 odd over the £40k....

i'm surprised that in marginal cases like this that BMW don't have a 'really expensive' option that you can delete from the spec that has no effect on the lease cost but gets the rrp below £40k. like 'thicker boot carpet that you can replace with standard thickness and save £1,000 rrp' ;-)

[The Voice]

It's approaching company car renewal time for my other half and an i3 S Rex is on the list.

I'm a little confused by the BIK rate from 2020/2021 onwards.

All the online calculators that I've used are saying that it will fall into the 16% tax bracket.

But this can't be right can it? Shouldn't it be in the 5% bracket? 16g CO2, circa 100 mile electric only range?

[oop north]

The Voice said:

It's approaching company car renewal time for my other half and an i3 S Rex is on the list.

I'm a little confused by the BIK rate from 2020/2021 onwards.

All the online calculators that I've used are saying that it will fall into the 16% tax bracket.

But this can't be right can it? Shouldn't it be in the 5% bracket? 16g CO2, circa 100 mile electric only range?

Yes - I think you are right (unless it can get to 130 miles which plenty 94ah owners are saying they can Manage), though I haven’t seen anything to make it clear how the battery only range is calculated (eg is it the wltp figure or something else). And I think the max would be 14% from April 2020 even if the leccy only range is a bit rubbish at less than 30 miles, so the i3 rex should be 2% or 5%

[The Voice]

That's what I thought... so perhaps a glitch in the system?

The i3 non REX is showing as 2% BIK from 2020 which is correct...