Cheap Zoe deals...

[Butter Face]

Sounds too expensive, I can do 10k per year (my iPad won't let me put in 8k but it's less than this obviously) for £99.88pm for the car. I'd assume 8k should be about 95-96pm.

[uremaw]

Just popped into Renault Edinburgh (Evans Halshaw) and "there are no deals available on the Zoe at the moment". Even so, they are quoting £105 (plus £80 battery) on the Dynamique Nav for 7,500 miles, with a deposit of £95.

[JagBox]

Cheers thanks for that, saw the other thread. Looking at past threads, Evans seems to competitive.

[andy43]

Bump
We are considering a Zoe lease, either through business or privately - I'm waiting for Evans Halshaw to get back to me - any opinions on best deals at the moment? It seems renault retail, evans halshaw and other groups have different offers?

[andy43]

So far...
Business offer is Dynamic Nav 6 + 35 6,000 miles per annum at £158/month inc battery plus vat.
Personal (from website) is £99 deposit, £99 month plus battery of £80 (3,000 to 7,500 miles p.a), inc vat.
And likely delivery Feb/March

[DSLiverpool]

Check the Leaf as well as the new one is out soon so maybe discounts, we have both and the Leaf is a far better car.

[Emeye]

Not as cheap, but the i3 is also due an update and it is a very nice car - I found a £249 a month lease (inc vat) on a 6+23 deal.

[DSLiverpool]

Emeye said:

Not as cheap, but the i3 is also due an update and it is a very nice car - I found a £249 a month lease (inc vat) on a 6+23 deal.

Good deal on an i3 - I see the electric car as "white goods" as a round the houses, kid cab, commuter they are perfect and my Leaf is perfect but I wouldnt pay more than I had to for one - my Leaf is £3600 for two years.

[Bonefish Blues]

Out of (currently academic) interest what are lease costs like on Leafs and Zoes over highest mileages. If I could persuade employer to put a charging point in, I would do c20-22k miles pa.

[andy43]

DSLiverpool said:

Check the Leaf as well as the new one is out soon so maybe discounts, we have both and the Leaf is a far better car.

I agree Leaf is better than the Zoe - and that's just from sitting in both cars (!) - not driven either yet.
Ze french and l'electricitie don't mix very well
Am looking at the Leaf as well now as there isn't as much difference in rent as I thought on a 24kw model. Acenta top of the list now...

[andy43]

Bonefish Blues said:

Out of (currently academic) interest what are lease costs like on Leafs and Zoes over highest mileages. If I could persuade employer to put a charging point in, I would do c20-22k miles pa.

On both cars the battery rental goes up significantly with estimated mileage - 12k is listed as £103 battery rent on a Zoe, plus the car cost on top, so I'd imagine a 22k limit would be pricey. Still fuel savings to be made, but 22k is a solid 400+ miles a week - the new 30kw Leaf might be best suited as it's got the best range I think (?), apart from the £££ Teslas.

[S-Express]

Worth looking at the Kia Soul EV as well. Good range, cheaper than the equivalent leaf, and available from stock. Currently on a 6+35 Contract Hire at £239/month for 10,000 miles PA.

Only one specification which is loaded, no leather, but everything else included even the 6.6Kw charger option that Nissan expect you to pay extra for. Looks are a bit polarising, but I don't mind it.

[Bonefish Blues]

andy43 said:

Bonefish Blues said:

Out of (currently academic) interest what are lease costs like on Leafs and Zoes over highest mileages. If I could persuade employer to put a charging point in, I would do c20-22k miles pa.

On both cars the battery rental goes up significantly with estimated mileage - 12k is listed as £103 battery rent on a Zoe, plus the car cost on top, so I'd imagine a 22k limit would be pricey. Still fuel savings to be made, but 22k is a solid 400+ miles a week - the new 30kw Leaf might be best suited as it's got the best range I think (?), apart from the £££ Teslas.

Thanks. 95% of my miles are done during 56-60 mile commutes each way, which are probably about optimal to maximise efficiency using an EV, hence my interest. On that basis I don't think I need a big battery, but the ability to rapid charge would certainly help.

[JagBox]

After driving both I preferred the Zoe. As a second car for my wife's commute, not much to fault. In the end I ordered from DSG Morecambe.

http://www.dsg-renault.co.uk/model.php?type=cars&a...

Miles 7.5K a year. Deposit £89 car £89 battery £80 (£169 a month over 2years PCP).

They also do higher milage.

Ordered end Oct due end Jan 16

[Otispunkmeyer]

S-Express said:

Worth looking at the Kia Soul EV as well. Good range, cheaper than the equivalent leaf, and available from stock. Currently on a 6+35 Contract Hire at £239/month for 10,000 miles PA.

Only one specification which is loaded, no leather, but everything else included even the 6.6Kw charger option that Nissan expect you to pay extra for. Looks are a bit polarising, but I don't mind it.

forgot all about the Soul EV. I did see that Robert Lewellyn bloke test one on his YT channel but I had no idea they were being sold. I quite like the Kia Soul, there is a funky white one where I live with red and black trimmings and a dazzling set of LED DRLs.... I actually think it looks quite smart.

[andy43]

Otispunkmeyer said:

S-Express said:

Worth looking at the Kia Soul EV as well. Good range, cheaper than the equivalent leaf, and available from stock. Currently on a 6+35 Contract Hire at £239/month for 10,000 miles PA.

Only one specification which is loaded, no leather, but everything else included even the 6.6Kw charger option that Nissan expect you to pay extra for. Looks are a bit polarising, but I don't mind it.

forgot all about the Soul EV. I did see that Robert Lewellyn bloke test one on his YT channel but I had no idea they were being sold. I quite like the Kia Soul, there is a funky white one where I live with red and black trimmings and a dazzling set of LED DRLs.... I actually think it looks quite smart.

The Kias look cool, but 239 is too much, despite the good spec. and decent mileage allowance - 10k is more than we need.

OH spoke to her accountants yesterday confirming tax situation etc, so we are sold on the Leaf Acenta 24kw 3.3 - it's a last years model deal I think so is a reasonable 169 + vat on a 6 + 35 business lease at 6k per annum in no-cost flame red - it's twenty quid more than the Zoe but I think we prefer the looks and size of it, especially as the Zoe only comes in rentacar white. No point in paying extra for metallic paint on someone elses car. And the Leaf's British not french

Cost-wise it's actually 192 for 36 months as it's really 41 payments over 3 years. Plus £2-3 a week in electricity.
OH's Stupid Beetle costs about £1500 a year in petrol and car tax, and that's excluding depreciation, repairs, breakages and maintenance - 2 new tyres last year for example. Beetle's on it's last legs so any similar privately owned petrol powered replacement would blow the Leaf budget comfortably, and even with some diesel eco-box it'd still be £600+ a year in fuel. And her cars have to be auto which doesn't help.

Leaf'll do a 10 mile each way commute 3 times a week, plus local stuff - shops/kids taxi/tip/etc, so I reckon we're on about 5k a year. It will get 99% of it's charging done at home overnight, and the huge massive plus is leaving the house and getting into a (hopefully) defrosted and pre heated car - the preheating is just genius... if the carwings app works.

Test drive tomorrow, and I need to make sure deal includes the 10 amp 3 pin plug charger brick thing AND hopefully the monster DC 50kw motorway services charging lead for emergencies. And floor mats. Not much chance of getting them to throw in six months tax and a tank of fuel so I wants floor mats.

I'm on the wrong thread for a Leaf now...

[DSLiverpool]

No need for car wings just set the pre heat timer on the car, has mon - sun separate settings.

[andy43]

Came, saw, test drove, ordered. A car is in group stock so it should be only about a week before we can collect it.
Leaf Acenta 24kw/basic 3.3 charger in solid red, business rental 6 + 35, 6,000 miles, a few pennies over £170+vat a month including annual servicing. And floor mats included
Although what they do when they service them I have no idea... there's some washing machine innards, a brake system and some flexible plumbing under the bonnet, but other than that...

It is just white goods motoring - huge pluses are instant heater, good satnav and cost per mile, rather than on-the-limit handling and grippy seats, but it really is great fun out-accelerating everything else in complete silence. Apparently with all the limiters and nanny electronics removed it'll hit sixty in reverse as quickly as it will going forward - 7 seconds. Now where's me wirecutters...