Tesla Autopilot - driven
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gangzoom said:
REALIST123 said:
In all honesty it's hard to take you seriously. You seem to have an irrational hatred of the diesel.
I suspect your stance is more to do with justifying your current mode of transport to yourself than anything else.
It's not just diesels I have a rational hatred for, its any car with an internal combustion engine in it....I'm trying my best to persuade my wife to get rid of her Lexus Hybrid for a Model S. But the fact the Lexus was bought brand new to the exact colour/spec she wanted, and we had to wait 5 months to get hold of it is making things difficult - and the £15K of deprecation we would loss by selling so soon after buying.I suspect your stance is more to do with justifying your current mode of transport to yourself than anything else.
I don't need to justify anything to myself, after living with an EV for 6 months, I'm just wish I had made the jump 12 months earlier, I honestly don't understand why anyone who can afford a Model S would pick an internal combustion powered alternative. You mentioned about getting a heat pump for you house, I suspect if you lived with an EV for a week your soon feel the same way about the EV as your day to day transport
.Don't take my word for it, Nissan + BMW do extended 24hr+ test drives, I've driven a Leaf/Zoe/i3/Tesla P85D - and regardless of price/brand, they all offer the same silky smooth EV experience. For day to day commuting they are 100% better than ANY internal combustion powered car I've ever driven at any price point. With-in 200 meters of my first EV driving experience in a Leaf I was convinced to sign on the dotted line for one the same day, and get rid of my 335i - and no there was no sale man sitting in the passenger seat
.I compare it to back in 2007, at the time I had one of these...There was nothing wrong with it, and it followed a tested/trusted evolution of phone design.
Than I saw this thing.....and the rest as they say is history!!
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 25th October 11:12
Other than the Tesla, none of the cars in your list would be big enough, or have enough performance or range for me. The S85 certainly would fit the bill but I still need to be convinced of its financial sense and capability.
Anyone know where in Norfolk I could try one or have one serviced? The Tesla website seems a little vague.
Also, what does one do if on a long run you pull in for a planned recharge and find the charging points OOS or in use?
A year ago it probably would have been a stretch for me. I frequently in the winter to return trips to the Engadine to do skiing for the weekend. It would have been at the edge of the range with a mountain pass to go over. I could have got there but probably not back.
A year later there are superchargers at St. Moritz and another one at the other side of the pass making the journey trivial.
We're probably a year ahead of the UK because they started delivering cars here a lot earlier. The roll out of Superchargers has been rapid. I think it's probably when the infrastructure is in place, not if it will be.
Because the car is effectively electronics & has a mobile connection it's possible for Tesla service to run diagnostics / install fixes for many things over the air without you having to take the car in. I believe they have mobile support & that services are much more akin to checking brake pads etc.
From what I've seen so far the cars get informed if a supercharger is OOS so would re-route. I'm sure Google would show up how often people have issues with busy Superchargers.
I've taken the view it does require changes in the way you do the trips, but that these changes are doable. I regularly drive from Zurich to Maastricht for example and I reckon it might take about 45 mins longer on a 6 - 7 hour trip, but that time could be used to grab a coffee, use the facilities or have a nap. (I do the trip late evening mostly to avoid the rush hour around Stuttgart). Realistically I'm going to make a quick stop every couple of hours anyway.
In the end of the day any car is a compromise and what you choose will depend on how you weight different factors.
A year later there are superchargers at St. Moritz and another one at the other side of the pass making the journey trivial.
We're probably a year ahead of the UK because they started delivering cars here a lot earlier. The roll out of Superchargers has been rapid. I think it's probably when the infrastructure is in place, not if it will be.
Because the car is effectively electronics & has a mobile connection it's possible for Tesla service to run diagnostics / install fixes for many things over the air without you having to take the car in. I believe they have mobile support & that services are much more akin to checking brake pads etc.
From what I've seen so far the cars get informed if a supercharger is OOS so would re-route. I'm sure Google would show up how often people have issues with busy Superchargers.
I've taken the view it does require changes in the way you do the trips, but that these changes are doable. I regularly drive from Zurich to Maastricht for example and I reckon it might take about 45 mins longer on a 6 - 7 hour trip, but that time could be used to grab a coffee, use the facilities or have a nap. (I do the trip late evening mostly to avoid the rush hour around Stuttgart). Realistically I'm going to make a quick stop every couple of hours anyway.
In the end of the day any car is a compromise and what you choose will depend on how you weight different factors.
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