Is anyone running a cable across a pavement?

Is anyone running a cable across a pavement?

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dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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Yes, because let's face it we are such a highly developed species that due to the highlighted issue of tripping over a wire on a pavement, the entire planet and electric automotive developments much grid to a halt to allow us to take back control of our well paved walking surfaces..... there is absolutely no chance of us being able to find a suitable lasting work around, like a narrow slot, or charging posts at the curbside.


Daniel

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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mickyh7 said:
This Topic sums up,to me, what a daft idea these EV's really are.
We need better technology until they are rolled out.
Wires running across footpaths up and down terraced streets.
Absolute stupidity.
Deaths,injuries and claims.
Drunks and Teenagers.
And expecting to be able to park outside of your own door?
Never going to happen.
rofl

I think he's being sarcastic.

Any word back on the OP from 5 years ago? How he got on.

When I lived in the city, I could have done the 'pole' idea. But the fact that I couldn't insure the parking spot right in front of my house made that a non-solution as I needed to charge every other day because of high mileage.

These days I know plenty of people who live in the city with BEV's and PHEV's, they either have some form of public charging available (I thought they were also doing projects in certain streets where they are converting the lamp posts to have an EV outlet as well?) or get by by just plugging it in at work.

aestetix1

868 posts

52 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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Try contacting the council. Many, especially in London, have a budget for installing on-street charging.

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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aestetix1 said:
Try contacting the council. Many, especially in London, have a budget for installing on-street charging.
The OP of this thread is 5 yo.

dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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We have on-street parking points here in Merseyside on both sides of the river, although I have no idea how will they work as my car is 19 years old and has a 3ltr petrol engine and a commute by train!

mickyh7

2,347 posts

87 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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dhutch said:
We have on-street parking points here in Merseyside on both sides of the river, although I have no idea how will they work as my car is 19 years old and has a 3ltr petrol engine and a commute by train!
You see, I was right.
It can't work lol!

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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dhutch said:
We have on-street parking points here in Merseyside on both sides of the river, although I have no idea how will they work as my car is 19 years old and has a 3ltr petrol engine and a commute by train!
You're living the future. An electric vehicle takes you to work and the petrol antiquity is a hobby wink.

dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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ZesPak said:
You're living the future. An electric vehicle takes you to work and the petrol antiquity is a hobby wink.
Fair. I have never thought of a BR Class 502/3 as futuristic, but now you mention it!

TCruise

582 posts

92 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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As long as it's not a majorly busy pavement, it's fine.

Just use commonsense.

Make sure it's highly visible and is laying flat.

Better if it is in a cable protector. I'd advise something for people to walk over, rather than on. But something that wheelchairs and buggies can get over.

Builders will frequently do similar.

The number of crazy responses on here. London is just a city, some of you seem to think it's some alien place. I doubt he lives on Oxford Circus!

It's like some if you don't realise that London is a little larger than the tourist areas, lots of people have cars but driveways/garages are uncommon until you're in Zone 4.

I don't know why I'm bothering, most the crazy responses on here are probably from people who are still excited to "ride the Tube" or "go to the big city" wink


ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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dhutch said:
Fair. I have never thought of a BR Class 502/3 as futuristic, but now you mention it!
Class 503? You're literally living in the past if that's what brings you to work.

dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Wednesday 27th May 2020
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ZesPak said:
Class 503? You're literally living in the past if that's what brings you to work.
Sorry, your right, 507/8.

Daniel

Frimley111R

15,683 posts

235 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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TCruise said:
As long as it's not a majorly busy pavement, it's fine.

Just use commonsense.

Make sure it's highly visible and is laying flat.

Better if it is in a cable protector. I'd advise something for people to walk over, rather than on. But something that wheelchairs and buggies can get over.
We've done one install in London where the customer did this with a big yellow cable protector. In theory it's ok but it looked horrible. I can imagine neighbours not being pleased to see this bright yellow 'mini speed bump' across the pavement permanently.

Despite concerns I've never heard of anyone having their cables unplugged maliciously either.

jjwilde

1,904 posts

97 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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So I live in an 1820s house in the city centre, an 'estate' or 'square' kinda thing, all very pretty etc. but amazingly each house has a cast iron duct from the (small) front garden to the cobbled street. It's almost as if it was done on purpose for a cable. I've used it for charging.... but does anyone know what it would have been for in 1820-1840?

aestetix1

868 posts

52 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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jjwilde said:
So I live in an 1820s house in the city centre, an 'estate' or 'square' kinda thing, all very pretty etc. but amazingly each house has a cast iron duct from the (small) front garden to the cobbled street. It's almost as if it was done on purpose for a cable. I've used it for charging.... but does anyone know what it would have been for in 1820-1840?
Waste water? As in rainfall run-off or maybe even household waste water. 1858 was the year of The Great Stink, they didn't have proper sewage handling back then.

dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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jjwilde said:
So I live in an 1820s house in the city centre, an 'estate' or 'square' kinda thing, all very pretty etc. but amazingly each house has a cast iron duct from the (small) front garden to the cobbled street. It's almost as if it was done on purpose for a cable. I've used it for charging.... but does anyone know what it would have been for in 1820-1840?
Yeah as above, would have been for waste, maybe even foul, water.

A lot of houses even in the 1920's used to just run the downspout into the yard and onto the street, plenty under the pavements of cities.

Daniel

squirejo

794 posts

244 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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I do this irregularly (because I mainly charge at work or Source London) in a residential street in SW12 from a 7KW charger installed in our bike shed at the front of the house. The cable goes across the pavement under a yellow / black edge marked heavy mat (specifically for cables and a lot easier than a massive plastic thing) and sometimes a traffic cone by the car / pavement edge. No issue for anyone, no complaints, no notes, no problems. There is also a proliferation of lamp post chargers now (not on my street unfortunately) which are great, although they do, like any on street chargers, require the cable to cut across the v small section of pavement - typically the kerbstone.

jjwilde

1,904 posts

97 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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aestetix1 said:
Waste water? As in rainfall run-off or maybe even household waste water. 1858 was the year of The Great Stink, they didn't have proper sewage handling back then.
Makes total sense now you say it and I went outside and they do line up.

Ideal for the charging cable though, you can perfectly lay the cable down in to it as it has a 2cm gap in the top.

robsa

2,260 posts

185 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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Easy Max; you have two spaces, put a massive diesel genny in one to charge it.

Simple. wink

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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Holy thread resurrection Batman!

So, I have a terraced house in Belgium that I rent out and tenants were inquiring for charging.
Contacted the city, apparently I got in pretty early and they were doing a pilot project for cable gutters.

Long story short, a couple months later (and well before the tenants got their EV):


Because it was a pilot project it was FoC woohoo, but I'm inquiring as to what the real cost would be. Their plan is to install hundreds of these, with the only real requirement being a parking spot in front of the house.

Smiljan

10,885 posts

198 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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ZesPak said:
Holy thread resurrection Batman!

So, I have a terraced house in Belgium that I rent out and tenants were inquiring for charging.
Contacted the city, apparently I got in pretty early and they were doing a pilot project for cable gutters.

Long story short, a couple months later (and well before the tenants got their EV):


Because it was a pilot project it was FoC woohoo, but I'm inquiring as to what the real cost would be. Their plan is to install hundreds of these, with the only real requirement being a parking spot in front of the house.
What do they do when they charge? Do they have to lift up that rubber and run the cable then out and back each time or is there a cable and post there all the time? If it’s the former it’d get pretty old pretty quick unless I guess they don’t drive much and only do it once in a blue moon. Good of the city to at least start considering through,

Here in the U.K. planning seems to be going backwards, there’s a new apartment complex being planned near me that only has a handful of visitors parking spaces. The residents allocated spaces are a walk into town, across a railway footbridge and in a previously council owned shopping centre car park! How that sort of crap gets signed off is beyond me. Human nature will prevail and the roads around the new complex will be infested with cars parked all over the place, again nowhere to charge and no provisions even considered,