Is anyone running a cable across a pavement?

Is anyone running a cable across a pavement?

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Evanivitch

20,153 posts

123 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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Similar projects being tried in the UK.

https://energysavingtrust.org.uk/case-study/oxgul-...

ATG

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273 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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jjwilde said:
aestetix1 said:
Waste water? As in rainfall run-off or maybe even household waste water. 1858 was the year of The Great Stink, they didn't have proper sewage handling back then.
Makes total sense now you say it and I went outside and they do line up.

Ideal for the charging cable though, you can perfectly lay the cable down in to it as it has a 2cm gap in the top.
But if you're in a conservation area or your house is listed, you should be aware that English Heritage may require you to remove the cable and retrofit an historically accurate turd.

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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Smiljan said:
What do they do when they charge? Do they have to lift up that rubber and run the cable then out and back each time or is there a cable and post there all the time? If it’s the former it’d get pretty old pretty quick unless I guess they don’t drive much and only do it once in a blue moon. Good of the city to at least start considering through,
Not clear from the picture, but the rubbers come from both sides and have a slit in between.
You run your cable as you would without it, then push it in. Pretty straightforward and takes about 10s extra, but works and stays in place well.
No idea on longevity indeed.

Picture from the other side


Evanivitch said:
Similar projects being tried in the UK.

https://energysavingtrust.org.uk/case-study/oxgul-...
Interesting, looks good. The one they did for us uses rubbers instead of brushes and didn't extend to the kerb scratchchin
Thanks for sharing.

Edited by ZesPak on Tuesday 28th June 10:17

TheDeuce

21,773 posts

67 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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That looks like a great solution.

There are lots of good ideas bubbling away to solve the problem of charging for people without off street parking, I think the final solution will likely be different in different areas - with local councils differing in what they want to encourage/allow.

OutInTheShed

7,688 posts

27 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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I recall seeing a house in Surrey, where the charge cable was taken over the pavement about 7 feet up, on a sort of gantry that swung around.
The gantry doubled as a house sign or something?

dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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ZesPak said:
Not clear from the picture, but the rubbers come from both sides and have a slit in between.
You run your cable as you would without it, then push it in. Pretty straightforward and takes about 10s extra, but works and stays in place well.
No idea on longevity indeed.

Picture from the other side
Very good. thanks for sharing.

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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OutInTheShed said:
I recall seeing a house in Surrey, where the charge cable was taken over the pavement about 7 feet up, on a sort of gantry that swung around.
The gantry doubled as a house sign or something?

Some Belgian made a nice one. Still seems like a complex solution to a simple problem.

sasha320

597 posts

249 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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ZesPak said:
Smiljan said:
What do they do when they charge? Do they have to lift up that rubber and run the cable then out and back each time or is there a cable and post there all the time? If it’s the former it’d get pretty old pretty quick unless I guess they don’t drive much and only do it once in a blue moon. Good of the city to at least start considering through,
Not clear from the picture, but the rubbers come from both sides and have a slit in between.
You run your cable as you would without it, then push it in. Pretty straightforward and takes about 10s extra, but works and stays in place well.
No idea on longevity indeed.

Picture from the other side


Evanivitch said:
Similar projects being tried in the UK.

https://energysavingtrust.org.uk/case-study/oxgul-...
Interesting, looks good. The one they did for us uses rubbers instead of brushes and didn't extend to the kerb scratchchin
Thanks for sharing.

Edited by ZesPak on Tuesday 28th June 10:17
First pi55ed person to step on one of these in high heels will be claiming for a broken ankle?

Evanivitch

20,153 posts

123 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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sasha320 said:
First pi55ed person to step on one of these in high heels will be claiming for a broken ankle?
You've never seen a drainage channel in a pavement? Do you even live in the UK?

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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ZesPak said:
OutInTheShed said:
I recall seeing a house in Surrey, where the charge cable was taken over the pavement about 7 feet up, on a sort of gantry that swung around.
The gantry doubled as a house sign or something?

Some Belgian made a nice one. Still seems like a complex solution to a simple problem.
What an unsightly mess.

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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speedyguy said:
What an unsightly mess.
Lol, as far as "gantries over the pavement" go, you could do a lot worse I reckon.
Collapsed you'd have a hard time telling it a part from a modern drain pipe.

Still, not a great solution imho.

TheDeuce

21,773 posts

67 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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ZesPak said:
speedyguy said:
What an unsightly mess.
Lol, as far as "gantries over the pavement" go, you could do a lot worse I reckon.

Still, not a great solution imho.
Someone had far too much time on their hands! But fairs fair. It only crosses the public pavement when it's in use and I can't see the local authorities claiming it's in the way, as it can be retracted anytime needed.

I have to admire such thoughtful solutions in the interim period it takes the authorities to come up with their own set of regulations and methods for solving the problem.


ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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Talking about a mess,


TheDeuce

21,773 posts

67 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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ZesPak said:
Talking about a mess,

Goes to great expense to avoid a cable across the pavement, then parks the car on the pavement.

One for trivia fans... It's actually illegal to mount the kerb and park like that in London. And apparently soon will be nationwide too. It's already technically illegal everywhere as it's illegal to drive on the pavement unless across a dropped section - so unless your car was lowered onto the pavement by a Chinook chopper, you broke the law.

MadMullah

5,265 posts

194 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Evanivitch said:
Similar projects being tried in the UK.

https://energysavingtrust.org.uk/case-study/oxgul-...
I emailed lancashire council and they said they had some trials running for terraced houses here too - didnt say what form they took them in - overhead or gully style

OutInTheShed

7,688 posts

27 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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TheDeuce said:
Goes to great expense to avoid a cable across the pavement, then parks the car on the pavement.

One for trivia fans... It's actually illegal to mount the kerb and park like that in London. And apparently soon will be nationwide too. It's already technically illegal everywhere as it's illegal to drive on the pavement unless across a dropped section - so unless your car was lowered onto the pavement by a Chinook chopper, you broke the law.
Many places, parking similar to that, two wheels on the pavement is a compromise that suits most people.
The pavements are not busy with pedestrians and there's still ample room to get a pushchair or wheelchair past.
The roads are too narrow for cars to park on the road both sides.
There are a lot of cars wanting to park.

If a ban on such parking is enforced, either people will need to reduce car ownership, or councils will have to spend a great deal of time and cash making the pavements narrower to create parking. Maybe they will put in some charging at the same time. Maybe they will charge motorists for the work and/or put parking permit schemes in?

Of course it's possible they will use this opportunity to put downward pressure on the number of cars, then a lot of the difficulties of providing charging will be reduced.

Smiljan

10,885 posts

198 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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TheDeuce said:
Goes to great expense to avoid a cable across the pavement, then parks the car on the pavement.

One for trivia fans... It's actually illegal to mount the kerb and park like that in London. And apparently soon will be nationwide too. It's already technically illegal everywhere as it's illegal to drive on the pavement unless across a dropped section - so unless your car was lowered onto the pavement by a Chinook chopper, you broke the law.
Where have you seen a nationwide ban on pavement parking being made illegal?

OutInTheShed

7,688 posts

27 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Smiljan said:
Where have you seen a nationwide ban on pavement parking being made illegal?
https://www.livingstreets.org.uk/get-involved/campaign-with-us/ban-pavement-parking-in-england

Smiljan

10,885 posts

198 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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OutInTheShed said:
Smiljan said:
Where have you seen a nationwide ban on pavement parking being made illegal?
https://www.livingstreets.org.uk/get-involved/campaign-with-us/ban-pavement-parking-in-england
Ah ok, Scotland. I thought when you said nationwide you mean all of the UK.

Is it enforced in Scotland I wonder?

Edit - scrub that, it's delayed until at least 2024 in Scotland 'cause Covid.

Back to charging cables across pavements


Edited by Smiljan on Wednesday 29th June 11:31

OutInTheShed

7,688 posts

27 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Smiljan said:
Ah ok, Scotland. I thought when you said nationwide you mean all of the UK.

Is it enforced in Scotland I wonder?

Edit - scrub that, it's delayed until at least 2024 in Scotland 'cause Covid.

Back to charging cables across pavements


Edited by Smiljan on Wednesday 29th June 11:31
The link is about England.
There are other things on the interweb saying the D of T are considering it.