BMW 330e ordered...
Discussion
Definitely agree with the split folding rear seats. If the budget allows it is worth getting the interior comfort pack which includes the folding rear seats, heated front seats, heated steering wheel ( I didn't think I would see the point, but it is brilliant in winter) and the sliding armrest, prevents banging your elbow on the fixed one. In hindsight my budget would have allowed me to get the HK sound system too, shame I was too quick off the mark ordering!
davidab157 said:
It's a normal petrol car when taken over long distances and will achieve 40-55 mpg depending on how you drive it. I wouldn't pay any attention to the 135 mpg claimed figure because real-world economy in these types of cars totally depends on driving style and distances that you travel. Some people will achieve infinite MPG if all they do is short 5-10 mile trips, others will get <30 mpg in the same car if all they do is hammer it in sport mode with a dead battery.
Although I do agree with you that only showing 99.9 on the computer seems a bit pointless for this type of car!
Unfortunately, it will be going nowhere with a "dead battery"Although I do agree with you that only showing 99.9 on the computer seems a bit pointless for this type of car!
I got confirmation of my new company car order today. Much like others the savings on these Hybrids are to good to pass up - so it was either a 330e or the C350e Merc and my preferences is the 330e.
So, I opted to go for a 330e Msport Shadow Edition in white rather than the M Sport with a few options. I think the mix of dark headlights, mirrors, grill etc look awesome against the white paint. Plus the extra bits you get as part of the Shadow edition pack like the 19" alloys, M Sport brakes and suspension etc finish it off perfectly.
Order was placed on Tuesday and I got confirmation from the dealer that the car was due for Delivery mid December. Usually I would be jumping up and down to get the car before Christmas, but my current company car is in contract until March 2018, so I've had to delay the car until then. Still I've Asked for an 18 plate on the 1st March 18 and been told that shouldn't be a problem. Fingers crossed.
Anyone else gone for the M Sport Shadow pack and got any feedback on it they can share?
So, I opted to go for a 330e Msport Shadow Edition in white rather than the M Sport with a few options. I think the mix of dark headlights, mirrors, grill etc look awesome against the white paint. Plus the extra bits you get as part of the Shadow edition pack like the 19" alloys, M Sport brakes and suspension etc finish it off perfectly.
Order was placed on Tuesday and I got confirmation from the dealer that the car was due for Delivery mid December. Usually I would be jumping up and down to get the car before Christmas, but my current company car is in contract until March 2018, so I've had to delay the car until then. Still I've Asked for an 18 plate on the 1st March 18 and been told that shouldn't be a problem. Fingers crossed.
Anyone else gone for the M Sport Shadow pack and got any feedback on it they can share?
It was more in regards to the comment of driving in sport mode with a dead battery...as when the hi-voltage battery is dead(as unfortunately mine has failed) the car will be going nowhere fast....petrol engine or not!
If you consider the possibility of the hi-voltage battery failing outside of warranty and the current uncertainty of cost of replacement(BMW have not given any indication, but independent estimates are quoting approx >£5k) an unknown, it would seem these early hybrids may become difficult to move on.
It seems to me to be a flaw, that the strive to cut down on weight excludes a back up battery to allow you to drive on the ICE only in the event of a failure of the Hi-voltage battery. If you get stuck in the winter snows, a conventional petrol or diesel would most likely survive and keep you warm.....but if this Hi-voltage battery decides to give up the ghost.....well your in trouble!
If you consider the possibility of the hi-voltage battery failing outside of warranty and the current uncertainty of cost of replacement(BMW have not given any indication, but independent estimates are quoting approx >£5k) an unknown, it would seem these early hybrids may become difficult to move on.
It seems to me to be a flaw, that the strive to cut down on weight excludes a back up battery to allow you to drive on the ICE only in the event of a failure of the Hi-voltage battery. If you get stuck in the winter snows, a conventional petrol or diesel would most likely survive and keep you warm.....but if this Hi-voltage battery decides to give up the ghost.....well your in trouble!
Im-Vexed said:
It was more in regards to the comment of driving in sport mode with a dead battery...as when the hi-voltage battery is dead(as unfortunately mine has failed) the car will be going nowhere fast....petrol engine or not!
If you consider the possibility of the hi-voltage battery failing outside of warranty and the current uncertainty of cost of replacement(BMW have not given any indication, but independent estimates are quoting approx >£5k) an unknown, it would seem these early hybrids may become difficult to move on.
It seems to me to be a flaw, that the strive to cut down on weight excludes a back up battery to allow you to drive on the ICE only in the event of a failure of the Hi-voltage battery. If you get stuck in the winter snows, a conventional petrol or diesel would most likely survive and keep you warm.....but if this Hi-voltage battery decides to give up the ghost.....well your in trouble!
Fair enough, but it is a contradiction to your post I replied to, "hammer it in sport mode with a dead battery". I have also had a hi voltage battery fault. A dud cell and drivetrain warning, leading to battery being replaced. Touch wood, I have had no other issues whatsoever.If you consider the possibility of the hi-voltage battery failing outside of warranty and the current uncertainty of cost of replacement(BMW have not given any indication, but independent estimates are quoting approx >£5k) an unknown, it would seem these early hybrids may become difficult to move on.
It seems to me to be a flaw, that the strive to cut down on weight excludes a back up battery to allow you to drive on the ICE only in the event of a failure of the Hi-voltage battery. If you get stuck in the winter snows, a conventional petrol or diesel would most likely survive and keep you warm.....but if this Hi-voltage battery decides to give up the ghost.....well your in trouble!
I must admit though, if I was not a cc driver with private fuel it is unlikely I would have risked this early model.
wobert said:
SPLIT REAR SEATS
bigphil47 said:
Definitely agree with the split folding rear seats. If the budget allows it is worth getting the interior comfort pack which includes the folding rear seats, heated front seats, heated steering wheel ( I didn't think I would see the point, but it is brilliant in winter) and the sliding armrest, prevents banging your elbow on the fixed one. In hindsight my budget would have allowed me to get the HK sound system too, shame I was too quick off the mark ordering!
Thanks for the input gents. I'll go with the comfort pack if budget allows. Sliding Armrest and heated steering wheel thing that were not in my mind, good shouts! HK is the first option I'll tick, good audio is the best thing to end any working day imhe.Ps is there no comfort or adaptive suspension option? (Or is there no need?) Can't find it on the NL configurator.
"Fair enough, but it is a contradiction to your post I replied to, "hammer it in sport mode with a dead battery"."....as was I commenting as a contradiction of the poster who actually made that comment.
Sorry to hear you have also experienced the same, or similar, hi-voltage battery failure problem - due to extremely poor service from the lease company starting with a capital 'A'(a must to learn for all children at an early age), I am still non the wiser to the actual problem, but understand the whole battery and all associate wiring looms are to be replaced!
I also received the drivetrain message, which states you can continue driving....although I certainly could not!
Another interesting aspect has came out of my predicament.....All BMW dealerships cannot deal or work on hi-voltage batteries, only certain approved ones.... begs the question..."If/when you do get this fault whilst driving.....which nearest BMW dealership do you take it to."
Sorry to hear you have also experienced the same, or similar, hi-voltage battery failure problem - due to extremely poor service from the lease company starting with a capital 'A'(a must to learn for all children at an early age), I am still non the wiser to the actual problem, but understand the whole battery and all associate wiring looms are to be replaced!
I also received the drivetrain message, which states you can continue driving....although I certainly could not!
Another interesting aspect has came out of my predicament.....All BMW dealerships cannot deal or work on hi-voltage batteries, only certain approved ones.... begs the question..."If/when you do get this fault whilst driving.....which nearest BMW dealership do you take it to."
Im-Vexed said:
"Fair enough, but it is a contradiction to your post I replied to, "hammer it in sport mode with a dead battery"."....as was I commenting as a contradiction of the poster who actually made that comment.
Sorry to hear you have also experienced the same, or similar, hi-voltage battery failure problem - due to extremely poor service from the lease company starting with a capital 'A'(a must to learn for all children at an early age), I am still non the wiser to the actual problem, but understand the whole battery and all associate wiring looms are to be replaced!
I also received the drivetrain message, which states you can continue driving....although I certainly could not!
Another interesting aspect has came out of my predicament.....All BMW dealerships cannot deal or work on hi-voltage batteries, only certain approved ones.... begs the question..."If/when you do get this fault whilst driving.....which nearest BMW dealership do you take it to."
My car was an outright purchase so cannot blame a lease company for any faults. But BMW were an absolute disgrace when I had the problem. Lied through their teeth, did not give a toss about the problem and were the biggest bunch of condescending and patronising pricks I have ever had the misfortune to deal with. Arrogance in the extreme from bottom to top, and I did e mail the UK chief exec. He was zero help but he did reply in fairness, although just to tell me how good his team were lol. Sorry to hear you have also experienced the same, or similar, hi-voltage battery failure problem - due to extremely poor service from the lease company starting with a capital 'A'(a must to learn for all children at an early age), I am still non the wiser to the actual problem, but understand the whole battery and all associate wiring looms are to be replaced!
I also received the drivetrain message, which states you can continue driving....although I certainly could not!
Another interesting aspect has came out of my predicament.....All BMW dealerships cannot deal or work on hi-voltage batteries, only certain approved ones.... begs the question..."If/when you do get this fault whilst driving.....which nearest BMW dealership do you take it to."
Your last paragraph is very true. My car went back to the dealer I bought it from but, as you rightly say, the problems do not get solved there. Never mind looking for approved hybrid mechanics, BMW did not even have any spares so moved my car somewhere else. And the cheeky beggars would not even tell me where it was. I would need an had an hour to quote all the lies and deceit BMW came up with during the 6 WEEKS the were at it.
Hmmm...seems very familiar, bearing in mind said lease company 'A' is apparently owned by BMW.
Like yourself, long story to tell and almost 3 weeks without the car with almost no updates or communication. In fact, from start to......whenever finish!, I have had to do all the chasing to find out what is happening.....cue, formal complaint to 'A' regarding their poor service and support.
Apology duly received with 'A's internal investigation and final report......they new nothing about it, as they claim BMW dealt with it directly and they were never made aware....and in future they suggest I call 'A's number to report and they will then have visibility and deal accordingly!......incidentally, would that be the number(which was the number they referred to)attached to the windscreen that I called immediately after breakdown and subsequently called again when breakdown truck turned up and did not have a clue what to do with it or where to take it......and then I tried to call several times over the next few days, without getting an answer and continually being on hold, without successfully speaking to someone......yes, that's the one?
'A'....we have now assigned to Downtime Management team who will update..........to date....nothing!
I am currently running around in a 320d replacement, which in my opinion is akin to the 50" 4K TV being replaced with the 21" CRT.....until we figure it out!...... No disrespect to 320d drivers....
Like yourself, long story to tell and almost 3 weeks without the car with almost no updates or communication. In fact, from start to......whenever finish!, I have had to do all the chasing to find out what is happening.....cue, formal complaint to 'A' regarding their poor service and support.
Apology duly received with 'A's internal investigation and final report......they new nothing about it, as they claim BMW dealt with it directly and they were never made aware....and in future they suggest I call 'A's number to report and they will then have visibility and deal accordingly!......incidentally, would that be the number(which was the number they referred to)attached to the windscreen that I called immediately after breakdown and subsequently called again when breakdown truck turned up and did not have a clue what to do with it or where to take it......and then I tried to call several times over the next few days, without getting an answer and continually being on hold, without successfully speaking to someone......yes, that's the one?
'A'....we have now assigned to Downtime Management team who will update..........to date....nothing!
I am currently running around in a 320d replacement, which in my opinion is akin to the 50" 4K TV being replaced with the 21" CRT.....until we figure it out!...... No disrespect to 320d drivers....
Im-Vexed said:
"All BMW dealerships cannot deal or work on hi-voltage batteries, only certain approved ones.... begs the question..."If/when you do get this fault whilst driving.....which nearest BMW dealership do you take it to."
Would be great if someone can pull up a list indeed.Nerdherder said:
Ps is there no comfort or adaptive suspension option? (Or is there no need?) Can't find it on the NL configurator.
Not an option on the 330e I already found out.My spec:
Packs
Model Luxury Line (S07LE)
Exec Pack (S0ZE5) + Light Pack (S0563)
Drivetrain
Autobox with flippers (S02TE)
Exterior
Alpinweiß Uni III (P0300)
18 inch Turbine wheels (styling 415) (S02P5)
Interior
Dakota Cognac/Accent Braun interior(FLCRZ)
Nussbaumwurzel interior details (S04FW)
Movable armrest is part of Exec pack
Leather (S0255) and heated (S0248) steering wheel
Sport seats front (S0481)
'Tech'
Pro Navigation (S0609)
Alarm class 3 (S0302)
Reverse Cam (S03AG)
Cruise Control (S0544)
Park Distance Control rear (PDC) (S0507)
HK Sound Systeem (S0688)
Real Time Traffic Info (S06AM)
Misc
Type removal (S0320)
Run flats (S0258)
3 year BMW warranty (S07CG)
Anything odd/missing?
Mav281 said:
Anyone else gone for the M Sport Shadow pack and got any feedback on it they can share?
Have had my M Sport Shadow Edition for a week now. It had just arrived at the dealers as an intended demo. I decided I was too impatient for a factory order and bought it. The colour (black) and spec (usual Shadow extras as well as Professional Plus media package) suited me fine. Loving the dark light housings, black grille and tinted rear windows. Maybe in the black it's a bit too batmobile for some, but I'm chuffed. And the HK sound system is a serious bonus. Only disappointment so far is the swirls the dealer kindly installed on the clear coat when they washed the car. I couldn't see the swirls when I collected the car in dull weather, but the next day the sun showed them in their full glory. Talking to dealer now about a solution, preferably not involving their valeters.
Looks stunning mate.
Must admit I was tempted by the Sunset Orange, but decided I liked the white/black contrast more and obviously there's no cost for the white which is an added bonus.
The shadow pack does seem to include a pretty good set of options and yes I would agree the HK sound system is a real bonus.
Must admit I was tempted by the Sunset Orange, but decided I liked the white/black contrast more and obviously there's no cost for the white which is an added bonus.
The shadow pack does seem to include a pretty good set of options and yes I would agree the HK sound system is a real bonus.
I was frustrated by the lack of storage, especially a dedicated sunglasses holder that I had in my previous car.
So I bought this from Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01H3DM0YU
Yes, it's black but the grey one wasn't available and it was only just over £15 with Prime next day delivery.
So I set about removing the grab handle but there was nothing on the web that showed me how to remove it. The best of a bad lot was this : http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=...
It then dawned on me that it was held in place by the v shaped metal retaining clips in the last photo of that post.
I then used 2 screwdrivers and slotted the blades into the gaps between the metal and plastic I could see (see the 3rd photo below for what I mean about the gaps), pushed the blades in to released the clip and pulled out one end of the grab handle. Repeat at the other end.
How to's:
1. Remove the access cover:
2. Push 1st screwdriver blade into top gap:
3 Push 2nd screwdrive into lower gap:
4. Push screwdrivers and pull on grab handle. Repeat on other end.
5. Push sunglasses holder clips into the freed-up holes.
The final result:
So I bought this from Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01H3DM0YU
Yes, it's black but the grey one wasn't available and it was only just over £15 with Prime next day delivery.
So I set about removing the grab handle but there was nothing on the web that showed me how to remove it. The best of a bad lot was this : http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=...
It then dawned on me that it was held in place by the v shaped metal retaining clips in the last photo of that post.
I then used 2 screwdrivers and slotted the blades into the gaps between the metal and plastic I could see (see the 3rd photo below for what I mean about the gaps), pushed the blades in to released the clip and pulled out one end of the grab handle. Repeat at the other end.
How to's:
1. Remove the access cover:
2. Push 1st screwdriver blade into top gap:
3 Push 2nd screwdrive into lower gap:
4. Push screwdrivers and pull on grab handle. Repeat on other end.
5. Push sunglasses holder clips into the freed-up holes.
The final result:
Video of fitted holder here: https://youtu.be/-3it7bluqp8
I did my first public charge today. On a ChargeYourCar charge point at a branch of Morrisons.
Apparently can use these free CYC chargepoint at this location with BMW chargenow/Polar+ (though not Polar Instant) but haven't got the RFID card yet. Signed up with CYC via the app on the spot. Free to use aside from a £1 connection charge. Phoned them up for help and they were really helpful. No RFID/fob required - this is how public charging should be done.
Only issue was a dodgy data connection inside the covered carpark so sporadically lost connection using the app whilst trying to initiate charging.
I did my first public charge today. On a ChargeYourCar charge point at a branch of Morrisons.
Apparently can use these free CYC chargepoint at this location with BMW chargenow/Polar+ (though not Polar Instant) but haven't got the RFID card yet. Signed up with CYC via the app on the spot. Free to use aside from a £1 connection charge. Phoned them up for help and they were really helpful. No RFID/fob required - this is how public charging should be done.
Only issue was a dodgy data connection inside the covered carpark so sporadically lost connection using the app whilst trying to initiate charging.
Hi, hoping someone can help.
The last 4 times I have tried to charge, from 2 separate public chargers, the car has not charged. See the photos for the warning message. I even tried to set the charging rate to "reduced" reacher than "maximum" and that didn't work. Cable looks ok to me. Charges as normal in Save Mode.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Steven
The last 4 times I have tried to charge, from 2 separate public chargers, the car has not charged. See the photos for the warning message. I even tried to set the charging rate to "reduced" reacher than "maximum" and that didn't work. Cable looks ok to me. Charges as normal in Save Mode.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Steven
Steven_M330e said:
Hi, hoping someone can help.
The last 4 times I have tried to charge, from 2 separate public chargers, the car has not charged. See the photos for the warning message. I even tried to set the charging rate to "reduced" reacher than "maximum" and that didn't work. Cable looks ok to me. Charges as normal in Save Mode.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Steven
According to this forum, you may need to jiggle the connector http://www.mybmwi3.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2507The last 4 times I have tried to charge, from 2 separate public chargers, the car has not charged. See the photos for the warning message. I even tried to set the charging rate to "reduced" reacher than "maximum" and that didn't work. Cable looks ok to me. Charges as normal in Save Mode.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Steven
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