BMW 330e ordered...

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sevensevenmx

39 posts

79 months

Wednesday 18th October 2017
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Duffman786 said:
My cars arrived at the dealers and is awaiting prep. If anyone has a query on current builds, let me know.

Ps. I didn't spec split folding seats ??
What spec did you order?

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 18th October 2017
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Welshbeef said:
Welshbeef said:
On a normal ICE when I start them up I usually leave it for a minute or so before setting off and only ever give it the full beans when the oil temp is at the correct operating level. Normally 9 miles.... in the summer winter is more.


So given the 330e and other PHEVs can start and go off electric when the petrol burst into life the car will be moving and underload off the bat. Does that increase wear? It's like turning the key and instantly pulling away.
Also given in stop start traffic the oil temp of he ICS will drop so you might think engine has been running so can give it the beans as and when- but in reality it could be way below operating temp and the full power requested will accelerate the engine wear.

What's people's view on this or is it a case of these are co cars/ lease cars and it will never really be a first owner problem
Does anyone know the answer to this or not hence overlooking the question.

Duffman786

28 posts

88 months

Wednesday 18th October 2017
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sevensevenmx said:
Duffman786 said:
My cars arrived at the dealers and is awaiting prep. If anyone has a query on current builds, let me know.

Ps. I didn't spec split folding seats ??
What spec did you order?
F30 330e M Sport 4dr Auto Step
Melbourne Red Metallic
Dakota leather – Black/dark oyster
Active Cruise control with stop and go + speed limiter
Brushed aluminium trim with Black High gloss finish
Front folding/sliding centre armrest with storage
Harman/Kardon logic 7 surround sound system
Heated front seats
Individual sun protection dark tinted glazing for rear window and rear side door windows
Model Designation Deletion

Duffman786

28 posts

88 months

Wednesday 18th October 2017
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And when I said queries, I meant questions as to what my car has as "standard". There seems to be a lot of questions in split folding seats and the I drive.

sevensevenmx

39 posts

79 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Duffman786 said:
And when I said queries, I meant questions as to what my car has as "standard". There seems to be a lot of questions in split folding seats and the I drive.
So now you’ve listed the extra’s ordered it will be clear what comes as standard

Edited by sevensevenmx on Thursday 19th October 06:24

RicksAlfas

13,401 posts

244 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Welshbeef said:
On a normal ICE when I start them up I usually leave it for a minute or so before setting off and only ever give it the full beans when the oil temp is at the correct operating level. Normally 9 miles.... in the summer winter is more.

So given the 330e and other PHEVs can start and go off electric when the petrol burst into life the car will be moving and underload off the bat. Does that increase wear? It's like turning the key and instantly pulling away.
Also given in stop start traffic the oil temp of he ICS will drop so you might think engine has been running so can give it the beans as and when- but in reality it could be way below operating temp and the full power requested will accelerate the engine wear.

What's people's view on this or is it a case of these are co cars/ lease cars and it will never really be a first owner problem
I'm under the impression that the cooling system for the battery also provides some heat to the ICE, so when it starts up it isn't from clap cold. I am sure the engineers at Toyota, BMW, Mercedes, Mitsubishi have thought about this problem!

If it concerns you, you could choose to start the car on ICE and save the electric for later.

One thing - idling your car on the drive for a minute is doing no good unless you are still driving a Hillman Minx. The advice on modern cars (check your handbook) is to drive as soon as you possibly can. You generate more heat with the engine under load, not idling. I agree you don't want to be revving the nuts off it but drive off, don't wait.

humpy999

195 posts

187 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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BMW genius confirms oil grade should be 0-30W for anyone interested!

Chris1712

293 posts

99 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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J1mcm said:
Can anyone advise please if there is a 12v socket provided in the front arm rest? I was tempted to include the advanced Bluetooth option just for the wireless charging facility for the MSport Shadow Edition that I've ordered, but can't really justify the near on £400 extra! If there is a socket in the arm rest I can at least plug my mobile into that for charging..
There's a USB port which I think is 1A.

Keggers

102 posts

238 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Welshbeef said:
Does anyone know the answer to this or not hence overlooking the question.
I asked the dealer about this when I was buying, and the best they could offer was "don't worry about it, as you will have sold the car on in 3 years anyway"! Not exactly reassuring!

Dja76

10 posts

82 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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My 330e Sport ordered at the end of May has arrived... hurrah

It did include the latest iDrive, LED headlights and split folding rear seats - which were not part of the original order.

Very pleased, hoping the weather picks up so I can give it a good test.

Somebody

1,183 posts

83 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Dja76 said:
My 330e Sport ordered at the end of May has arrived... hurrah

It did include the latest iDrive, LED headlights and split folding rear seats - which were not part of the original order.
Congrats. Company car?

Dja76

10 posts

82 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Somebody said:
Congrats. Company car?
Certainly is

Somebody

1,183 posts

83 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Dja76 said:
Certainly is
Great! Beware of the increased P11D value - the upgrades aren't really "free"!

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Keggers said:
Welshbeef said:
Does anyone know the answer to this or not hence overlooking the question.
I asked the dealer about this when I was buying, and the best they could offer was "don't worry about it, as you will have sold the car on in 3 years anyway"! Not exactly reassuring!
That’s exactly what I thought.

Dja76

10 posts

82 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Somebody said:
Great! Beware of the increased P11D value - the upgrades aren't really "free"!
I know but p11d wise it’s still a lot better than the A4 it replaces, I’m surprised how much better the LED headlights are, so happy with the additions. The split folding seats will help too as boot space is limited.

Traffic has been heavy on the M5 so I’ll give it a good run on the weekend hopefully; but so far so good.

Somebody

1,183 posts

83 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Dja76 said:
I’m surprised how much better the LED headlights are, so happy with the additions. The split folding seats will help too as boot space is limited.
I'm happy with the additions too. Can't vouch for whether the LED headlights are "better" at illuminating the road as I don't have another 3 series to compared to, but the light is certainly whiter than halogens of my previous car, and I really envied for the LED corona DRLs, part of the optional LED headlights at £710 extra which I didn't spec when I ordered in early May. Chuffed that they were included as part of the upgrades from mid-July, but then found out that the list price had gone up £1,145 at the time of registration (early September) as well.

Since then, folding rear seats are now standard on the Sport, but the list price has correspondingly increased by £325.

I don't find the boot space too bad, but the folding rear seats obviously adds to the versatility.

mj2017

5 posts

80 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Welshbeef said:
Does anyone know the answer to this or not hence overlooking the question.
In my 530e, the electric motor assists the ICE sometime when it is fired up while driving. So the ICE is not given full load before it is warmed up a little at least. And yes, you should not warm the engine by idling...

Donkeh101

5 posts

79 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Duffman786 said:
And when I said queries, I meant questions as to what my car has as "standard". There seems to be a lot of questions in split folding seats and the I drive.
Touchscreen media?

Duffman786

28 posts

88 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Donkeh101 said:
Duffman786 said:
And when I said queries, I meant questions as to what my car has as "standard". There seems to be a lot of questions in split folding seats and the I drive.
Touchscreen media?
I haven't taken delivery yet. All I know is the dealer has it according to BMW Genius. I suspect I should get it next week or the week after.

Mine is the standard Nav so wasn't aware this has touchscreen but will confirm.

Dja76

10 posts

82 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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Donkeh101 said:
Touchscreen media?
I ordered a 330e sport delivered last week and it didn’t come with touchscreen, although I didn’t upgrade the sat nav.