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My (limited) experience of the satnav guided ev usage does work. (sat nav route in eco pro)
On the Idrive, "edrive technology in action" there is a screen that will tell you if its saving charge for later in the journey.
It definitely favors ICE usage on motorways, as the engine will start as soon as i turn onto a mway sliproad, before ive even started accelerating to mway speeds
It does also seem to change the level of EV "sensitivity" too depending on remaining battery and distance. I did a journey from mcr city centre to congleton last week, about 30 miles. Had 55% battery left starting the journey which is about 7-8miles range.
At my destination it was showing 78mpg which is impressive.
I didnt exceed 50mph on the whole journey however it was automatically starting the engine on faster A roads/dual carriageways to regen a bit for future use.. and then was more sensitive to switching between the two on the more flowing roads - where mostly E-mode was being used to keep pace with traffic, but the engine more eager to start.
The last part of the journey was urban and was completed full EV.
Filled up yesterday (as the missus was complaining that it "bongs" when range drops below 50miles - could have dragged it out for another week at least haha!)
747 miles - 94.5mpg
36 litres of fuel.
about £20 of electricity.
On the Idrive, "edrive technology in action" there is a screen that will tell you if its saving charge for later in the journey.
It definitely favors ICE usage on motorways, as the engine will start as soon as i turn onto a mway sliproad, before ive even started accelerating to mway speeds
It does also seem to change the level of EV "sensitivity" too depending on remaining battery and distance. I did a journey from mcr city centre to congleton last week, about 30 miles. Had 55% battery left starting the journey which is about 7-8miles range.
At my destination it was showing 78mpg which is impressive.
I didnt exceed 50mph on the whole journey however it was automatically starting the engine on faster A roads/dual carriageways to regen a bit for future use.. and then was more sensitive to switching between the two on the more flowing roads - where mostly E-mode was being used to keep pace with traffic, but the engine more eager to start.
The last part of the journey was urban and was completed full EV.
Filled up yesterday (as the missus was complaining that it "bongs" when range drops below 50miles - could have dragged it out for another week at least haha!)
747 miles - 94.5mpg
36 litres of fuel.
about £20 of electricity.
craig1912 said:
About 250-300 too.
So far averaged 51mpg
On a fairly regular 230 mile trip I avaerage around 45mpg which I’m happy with.
Just don’t get the electric usage going down a couple of percent each half hour when I’m doing 70 on the motorway?
It’s certainly not an intelligent system and using the sat Nav to try and use battery is a waste of time. So far averaged 51mpg
On a fairly regular 230 mile trip I avaerage around 45mpg which I’m happy with.
Just don’t get the electric usage going down a couple of percent each half hour when I’m doing 70 on the motorway?
From what I can tell the car decides to use battery based on the loading through the drive system, plus the % battery remaining. Absolutely nothing to do with when would be more efficient to use battery.
It’s an original gripe I took up with BMW 2 years ago which they refused to even acknowledge.
If you are prepared to mess around changing the car from battery to ICE manually you will get better mpg.
Also my car was in for a service a few months back where they updated the threshold at which ICE kicks in, it’s dropped on mine so it no longer kicks in at 65 mph, it’s now about 55mph. Still not low enough imo.
The is my one and only major gripe about the car that it doesn’t use sat Nav in any way what so ever to intelligently use ICE / battery.
I have found a method that works well for me and it involves keeping a check on the battery drain gauge at the bottom of the speedo.
I set off in sports mode to force the ice as I park on a hill and make sure I am in this mode for any inclines where I will be a bit heavier on the accelerator.
Mainly run in eco mode which will force to battery but again switch to sports if I see a large drain on the battery e.g. travelling on flat dual carriageway through roadworks around 40-50 mph the draw on battery can be significant for the little benefit and the percentage drops in seconds.
I also drop back into eco when on motorway/dual carriageway if speed is over 60mph
On return journey I switch to max e drive for the last 4-5miles so I use what’s left in the battery
I only charge over night at home and travel mainly M1/A52 approx 22 miles each way (around 6miles city traffic). In winter I regularly got 60mpg with 55mpg return journey.
Now it’s warmer 70mpg with 60mpg return journey with around 60% of battery used going and 40% for return journey.
We all know the battery will obviously last longer with a light touch but if you keep an eye on the drain gauge you can soon work out automatically when best to engage it if you have a regular route.
I set off in sports mode to force the ice as I park on a hill and make sure I am in this mode for any inclines where I will be a bit heavier on the accelerator.
Mainly run in eco mode which will force to battery but again switch to sports if I see a large drain on the battery e.g. travelling on flat dual carriageway through roadworks around 40-50 mph the draw on battery can be significant for the little benefit and the percentage drops in seconds.
I also drop back into eco when on motorway/dual carriageway if speed is over 60mph
On return journey I switch to max e drive for the last 4-5miles so I use what’s left in the battery
I only charge over night at home and travel mainly M1/A52 approx 22 miles each way (around 6miles city traffic). In winter I regularly got 60mpg with 55mpg return journey.
Now it’s warmer 70mpg with 60mpg return journey with around 60% of battery used going and 40% for return journey.
We all know the battery will obviously last longer with a light touch but if you keep an eye on the drain gauge you can soon work out automatically when best to engage it if you have a regular route.
Edited by Wobbly8 on Tuesday 22 May 21:45
Wobbly that’s pretty much what I do. I have a 24 mile commute each way but quite hilly. I can get similar mpg to yourself.
A few days ago I did actually leave the car to sort it out itself. When I got to work I had 21% battery left and got 51mpg.
On the way home the battery was gone in minutes and the return journey avg was 36mpg !
It’s wrong though that you need to take your mind off driving the car safely to think about pressing buttons to make it drive efficiently
A few days ago I did actually leave the car to sort it out itself. When I got to work I had 21% battery left and got 51mpg.
On the way home the battery was gone in minutes and the return journey avg was 36mpg !
It’s wrong though that you need to take your mind off driving the car safely to think about pressing buttons to make it drive efficiently
FD,
I quite like the playing round with controls, also there is a different feel to me when in busy traffic on battery as it adds a certain calmness to driving.
I still get good mpg when driving hard in the parts of my journey in sports mode.
Weekends are even more fun as mostly in sports mode
I quite like the playing round with controls, also there is a different feel to me when in busy traffic on battery as it adds a certain calmness to driving.
I still get good mpg when driving hard in the parts of my journey in sports mode.
Weekends are even more fun as mostly in sports mode
Pete-utido said:
Just lately when putting postcodes into the sat nav I keep getting ‘No online connection’. Any ideas guys?
I’m having to put my destination into the app and send it as a message to the car, which is becoming a bit of a choir....
That sounds like a right song and dance...I’m having to put my destination into the app and send it as a message to the car, which is becoming a bit of a choir....
Pete-utido said:
Just lately when putting postcodes into the sat nav I keep getting ‘No online connection’. Any ideas guys?
I’m having to put my destination into the app and send it as a message to the car, which is becoming a bit of a choir....
Yep. Same here! Right pain. Sort of glad it's not just me!I’m having to put my destination into the app and send it as a message to the car, which is becoming a bit of a choir....
Pete-utido said:
Just lately when putting postcodes into the sat nav I keep getting ‘No online connection’. Any ideas guys?
I’m having to put my destination into the app and send it as a message to the car, which is becoming a bit of a choir....
Happened to me too, today. I’m having to put my destination into the app and send it as a message to the car, which is becoming a bit of a choir....
I got round it by using voice input - worked surprisingly well at the first attempt. It was't an address as such; it was a doctor's surgery. So I said, "Such & Such Surgery, ThatTown", which it found, and then the lady asked if I wanted to navigate to it.
Try it!
After 26 months my 330e M sport has been replaced by a new 330e Shadow Edition with a few nice options. Initial thoughts are the road and wind noise is quite loud in comparison but I only had 18”s on the last one so I guess it’s that.
I might have to go out for a late run tonight as I am keen to try the optional adaptive LED lights. Does anyone else have these and do you get flashed due to them being to bright?
I might have to go out for a late run tonight as I am keen to try the optional adaptive LED lights. Does anyone else have these and do you get flashed due to them being to bright?
Our 330e is 26 months old & went in for a recall last Monday. I was told this was purely recoding for the air conditioning system, but given what has happened since I doubt it was this simple. Apparently the vehicle was recoded for 8 hours, after which it would not take any charge. A new component for the charging system was ordered from BMW but has not solved the problem. The car is still at the service centre and the BMW i-performance technician I've been speaking today freely admitted they haven't much of an idea what is going on because these cars are 'so complicated'! Has anyone else had problems (I am assuming the recall will be for the earlier 330es at least?)?
Mine was one of the early March 16 cars but I never knew of a recall unless the lease company did not pass them on. On the routine services they did a couple of updates but nothing with the A/C as far as I know.
Funny thing was I mentioned to them the A/C seems a bit odd as it sometimes felt like it was on when it wasn’t and on several occasions a significant amount of cold vapour came out of the vents.
Funny thing was I mentioned to them the A/C seems a bit odd as it sometimes felt like it was on when it wasn’t and on several occasions a significant amount of cold vapour came out of the vents.
South tdf said:
Mine was one of the early March 16 cars but I never knew of a recall unless the lease company did not pass them on. On the routine services they did a couple of updates but nothing with the A/C as far as I know.
Funny thing was I mentioned to them the A/C seems a bit odd as it sometimes felt like it was on when it wasn’t and on several occasions a significant amount of cold vapour came out of the vents.
Thanks for the response. We've never experienced issues with our aircon so I am not sure what this recall was about. Funnily enough our fleet manager regularly checks for recalls on our vehicles & he also said he wasn't aware of one for the 330e. The dealer definitely referred to it as a recall & specifically said it was for the aircon - god knows what they've done to it if it's knackered the charging system!!!Funny thing was I mentioned to them the A/C seems a bit odd as it sometimes felt like it was on when it wasn’t and on several occasions a significant amount of cold vapour came out of the vents.
South tdf said:
After 26 months my 330e M sport has been replaced by a new 330e Shadow Edition with a few nice options. Initial thoughts are the road and wind noise is quite loud in comparison but I only had 18”s on the last one so I guess it’s that.
I might have to go out for a late run tonight as I am keen to try the optional adaptive LED lights. Does anyone else have these and do you get flashed due to them being to bright?
they work pretty well, range is about half a mile i guess. i found it working best on the a and b one-lane winding roads. there was too frequently cars on the outside of the motor way so it keep flicking on and half. wont be using it much now with all the daylight anywaysI might have to go out for a late run tonight as I am keen to try the optional adaptive LED lights. Does anyone else have these and do you get flashed due to them being to bright?
Edited by hyb1d on Monday 28th May 17:15
I'm a private buyer considering buying a 330e.
My commute is a 20 mile round trip, 90% motorway, and I may be able to charge at work. Is there a chance I could effectively commute without ever seeing a petrol station?
Logistically my charging at home could be a nightmare. Mid terrace house and due to having a park at the front my parking space is at the side, approx 30m away. Is it possible to get a charging lead that long?
My commute is a 20 mile round trip, 90% motorway, and I may be able to charge at work. Is there a chance I could effectively commute without ever seeing a petrol station?
Logistically my charging at home could be a nightmare. Mid terrace house and due to having a park at the front my parking space is at the side, approx 30m away. Is it possible to get a charging lead that long?
Seannyyyy said:
I'm a private buyer considering buying a 330e.
My commute is a 20 mile round trip, 90% motorway, and I may be able to charge at work. Is there a chance I could effectively commute without ever seeing a petrol station?
Logistically my charging at home could be a nightmare. Mid terrace house and due to having a park at the front my parking space is at the side, approx 30m away. Is it possible to get a charging lead that long?
No as you can’t charge at home. I have a 24 mile round trip but charge at home. Elec range is roughly 16 miles and engine kicks in on motorway at 50ish mph.My commute is a 20 mile round trip, 90% motorway, and I may be able to charge at work. Is there a chance I could effectively commute without ever seeing a petrol station?
Logistically my charging at home could be a nightmare. Mid terrace house and due to having a park at the front my parking space is at the side, approx 30m away. Is it possible to get a charging lead that long?
Funkydunc said:
Just read an article on the new Mk7 3 series. Looks interesting!
New less powerful 325e, and more interestingly a more powerful 280hp 330e, and all electric model with 425 mile range ??
Im guessing the 325e will use the 1.5l engine - as per the 225xe/countryman PHEV do now. although in those applications the engine drives the front wheels and the motor drives the back.New less powerful 325e, and more interestingly a more powerful 280hp 330e, and all electric model with 425 mile range ??
Also assuming the 280bhp 330e will be more from a second gen motor (120bhp peak rather than the 87bhp fitted currently)
The biggest improvement will be the range from newer battery tech.
Roll on 2021 when i can get the next one!
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