BMW 330e ordered...
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Cruciate said:
humpy999 said:
Err, I don't have folding mirrors and yet my passenger side autodips? You have to have the adjustment selector in a certain position otherwise it doesn't dip, off the top of my head I can't remember what position though!!
That's weird.A colleague who didn't order the folding mirrors doesn't have the dipping.
He's come from a Merc that had it as standard and lists it as one of the things he misses most.
bmwphever said:
Welcome!
I can’t answer your question for definite, but I would guess it won’t precondition if it would take the battery below about 15%. It could easily take 20% of the battery to warm the cabin at low temperatures, maybe even more. When mines plugged in it can take over 3KW for half an hour to precondition, although that will be cabin and battery (it won’t directly precondition the battery if not plugged in, although drawing current through it to precondition the cabin will indirectly condition it to an extent). So you’re talking about 1.5KWh which is about 25% of the usable capacity of the battery.
At a guess then I’d say you want to allow 40% remaining if you want to precondition when not plugged in. Others may be able to give advice from experience though.
I can’t answer your question for definite, but I would guess it won’t precondition if it would take the battery below about 15%. It could easily take 20% of the battery to warm the cabin at low temperatures, maybe even more. When mines plugged in it can take over 3KW for half an hour to precondition, although that will be cabin and battery (it won’t directly precondition the battery if not plugged in, although drawing current through it to precondition the cabin will indirectly condition it to an extent). So you’re talking about 1.5KWh which is about 25% of the usable capacity of the battery.
At a guess then I’d say you want to allow 40% remaining if you want to precondition when not plugged in. Others may be able to give advice from experience though.
Thanks Bmwphever - Just what I was looking for
dersonik said:
What is best economical option for the car If I have 16 miles one way to work and I'm not able to charge car at work (just at home) ?? (country roads - max 50 mph speed)
expect to see about 35-37mpg on the return journey, bik saving out weighs if you claim milage. try go shadow editioncraig1912 said:
dersonik said:
What is best economical option for the car If I have 16 miles one way to work and I'm not able to charge car at work (just at home) ?? (country roads - max 50 mph speed)
Put your home address in sat nav, put work address as intermediate destination and drive in eco pro and auto e
The car isn’t that intelligent. There is no correlation between sat Nav and saving battery. BMW pretty much confirmed as much when I questioned them on it 2 years ago. Programming intermediate stops to the Nav is a waste of time.Put your home address in sat nav, put work address as intermediate destination and drive in eco pro and auto e
I do a 22 mile each way commute on hilly country roads. The car can be efficient if you are prepared to force it to ICE more than you would expect. In the summer I have been typically getting 70mpg each way. In the winter I would expect this to drop as low as 40mpg each way. This is all in comfort or sport mode, I never bother with eco pro as just appears pointless for minimal savings and a slower colder car
Again don’t kid yourself in to thinking the 330e uses intelligent routing, it does not.
For it to be intelligent with usage of electricity you need to set the route in the nav to eco then use eco pro, it advises on the screen then what it's planning and using. There was a post a few pages back showing it, not sure if this is just with the latest ID6 software, like I posted earlier mine had a software update and it's much more "Intelligent" on use since this update.
jonwm said:
Sorry TB404 i missed this post
Basically i find the dial a bit dark and hard to read at times, coming from an Audi where its always lit and in back lit, equivalent of the BMW with the lights on, so coded the side lights to be brighter so ican drive with them on in the day and have the dash lights on, I also missed the digital speedo so added that too..
Thank you, I see what you mean, a cool feature indeed!Basically i find the dial a bit dark and hard to read at times, coming from an Audi where its always lit and in back lit, equivalent of the BMW with the lights on, so coded the side lights to be brighter so ican drive with them on in the day and have the dash lights on, I also missed the digital speedo so added that too..
BTW, I'm curious, what shows up (if at all?) in the bottom section of the left dial? Where in the right we see the energy consumption interactive meters. Never saw that part light up...
Edited by TB404 on Saturday 8th September 09:43
S1bs said:
Long time lurker - First time post....
Thanks to everyone that has contributed to this thread - This is easily the most informative forum for 330E info - It's been a great help in understanding how to get the best out of the car.
Took delivery of my 330E at the end of July, after ordering it way back in February. Suspect it was one of the last factory ordered cars before they closed the order books.
Have done 2900 miles so far with a mix of Motorway and London driving (720 of those electric according to BMW Connected) and love the car.
With Autumn / Winter approaching I have one question that I can't find an answer to.......
If you precondition the car before departure, what is the minimum battery charge required for it to operate when not plugged in to a charger?
The user manual only says 'adequately charged'.
Appreciate that variations in outside temperature might mean the car requires different levels of charge so here's the situation I'm interested in:
I often work early mornings / late nights, and have to park away from a charger. On a cold morning (say 0 to +5 degrees C) - what's the minimum charge required by the car for preconditioning so I can warm the interior / clear the windows ?
Not really bothered how much of a hit the battery takes - will happily sacrifice economy for a warm, demisted car !
I'm looking for an approximate percentage so that if needed I can drive for a for a short while in Save mode before parking in order to raise the charge level over the required amount.
Thanks in advance.
Not sure, would say 20% as a minimum as mine would use that up to demisy last winter but it was always on charge. One way to check is to charge it up to 100 and then try it yourself to see what it uses by the time you get in the car. The colder it is the more it uses going by mine last year, as I’d set it to be ready 30 minutes before I was leaving so it could recharge a bit as well. Thanks to everyone that has contributed to this thread - This is easily the most informative forum for 330E info - It's been a great help in understanding how to get the best out of the car.
Took delivery of my 330E at the end of July, after ordering it way back in February. Suspect it was one of the last factory ordered cars before they closed the order books.
Have done 2900 miles so far with a mix of Motorway and London driving (720 of those electric according to BMW Connected) and love the car.
With Autumn / Winter approaching I have one question that I can't find an answer to.......
If you precondition the car before departure, what is the minimum battery charge required for it to operate when not plugged in to a charger?
The user manual only says 'adequately charged'.
Appreciate that variations in outside temperature might mean the car requires different levels of charge so here's the situation I'm interested in:
I often work early mornings / late nights, and have to park away from a charger. On a cold morning (say 0 to +5 degrees C) - what's the minimum charge required by the car for preconditioning so I can warm the interior / clear the windows ?
Not really bothered how much of a hit the battery takes - will happily sacrifice economy for a warm, demisted car !
I'm looking for an approximate percentage so that if needed I can drive for a for a short while in Save mode before parking in order to raise the charge level over the required amount.
Thanks in advance.
aberdeeneuan said:
Not sure, would say 20% as a minimum as mine would use that up to demisy last winter but it was always on charge. One way to check is to charge it up to 100 and then try it yourself to see what it uses by the time you get in the car. The colder it is the more it uses going by mine last year, as I’d set it to be ready 30 minutes before I was leaving so it could recharge a bit as well.
Thanks for the advice Abereeneuan - Will give it a try.Anybody had an issue with the washer jets?
I sent mine in for a service a few weeks ago (20k, 18 months old) and when I got it back I noticed that the pressure for the washer jets was reduced - it could have been a build up over time but it seemed to happen all of a sudden about the time it went in to the main dealer. It had to go back in yesterday for a recall so I asked them to look at this when in.
I picked it up last night and they told me basically the tank was gunked up because I don't use proper screen wash in my tank, this was causing the loss of pressure. I always use screen wash but sometimes I water it down as it's concentrated, there is a chance I haven't been taking too much notice and not put the correct strength in.
Anybody else got an issue with this? Would using screenwash in the incorrect concentrate cause enough of a build up in 18 months to leave me with a trickle?
They said they wouldn't fix it under warranty.
Anybody else had this, anybody had their lease company cover the cost under mainenance?
thanks
I sent mine in for a service a few weeks ago (20k, 18 months old) and when I got it back I noticed that the pressure for the washer jets was reduced - it could have been a build up over time but it seemed to happen all of a sudden about the time it went in to the main dealer. It had to go back in yesterday for a recall so I asked them to look at this when in.
I picked it up last night and they told me basically the tank was gunked up because I don't use proper screen wash in my tank, this was causing the loss of pressure. I always use screen wash but sometimes I water it down as it's concentrated, there is a chance I haven't been taking too much notice and not put the correct strength in.
Anybody else got an issue with this? Would using screenwash in the incorrect concentrate cause enough of a build up in 18 months to leave me with a trickle?
They said they wouldn't fix it under warranty.
Anybody else had this, anybody had their lease company cover the cost under mainenance?
thanks
Tony Angelino said:
Anybody had an issue with the washer jets?
I sent mine in for a service a few weeks ago (20k, 18 months old) and when I got it back I noticed that the pressure for the washer jets was reduced - it could have been a build up over time but it seemed to happen all of a sudden about the time it went in to the main dealer. It had to go back in yesterday for a recall so I asked them to look at this when in.
I picked it up last night and they told me basically the tank was gunked up because I don't use proper screen wash in my tank, this was causing the loss of pressure. I always use screen wash but sometimes I water it down as it's concentrated, there is a chance I haven't been taking too much notice and not put the correct strength in.
Anybody else got an issue with this? Would using screenwash in the incorrect concentrate cause enough of a build up in 18 months to leave me with a trickle?
They said they wouldn't fix it under warranty.
Anybody else had this, anybody had their lease company cover the cost under mainenance?
thanks
You’ve always used BMW screenwash? If not that’s probably the cause. I sent mine in for a service a few weeks ago (20k, 18 months old) and when I got it back I noticed that the pressure for the washer jets was reduced - it could have been a build up over time but it seemed to happen all of a sudden about the time it went in to the main dealer. It had to go back in yesterday for a recall so I asked them to look at this when in.
I picked it up last night and they told me basically the tank was gunked up because I don't use proper screen wash in my tank, this was causing the loss of pressure. I always use screen wash but sometimes I water it down as it's concentrated, there is a chance I haven't been taking too much notice and not put the correct strength in.
Anybody else got an issue with this? Would using screenwash in the incorrect concentrate cause enough of a build up in 18 months to leave me with a trickle?
They said they wouldn't fix it under warranty.
Anybody else had this, anybody had their lease company cover the cost under mainenance?
thanks
Very common issue for BMW owners. It’s not diluting the screenwash it’s using non approved stuff that seems to do it.
Tony Angelino said:
Thanks for the replies, I don't use BMW screen wash - I use stuff they supply our fleet from work. The same stuff we use in our wagons, don't recall the name without checking.
Wonder if the lease company would sort with this in mind?
I'd be putting this straight back on to the lease company with the main highlight toward safety. If they are advising the screen wash then they should be responsible and ultimately hold the duty of care.Wonder if the lease company would sort with this in mind?
Tony Angelino said:
Thanks for the replies, I don't use BMW screen wash - I use stuff they supply our fleet from work. The same stuff we use in our wagons, don't recall the name without checking.
Wonder if the lease company would sort with this in mind?
Wouldn’t have thought so. It’s a well known problem and BMW clearly advise in the handbooks to use theirs or equivalent. Wonder if the lease company would sort with this in mind?
Worth a try, though.
Thanks, just to clear up - the BMW dealer said I wasn't putting screenwash in the correct concentrate (either that or using just water/washing up liquid or whatever), they never mentioned a particular brand of screenwash - 'BMW screenwash' was mentioned by another poster on here. I haven't yet mentioned it to my lease company or checked the handbook to see what it says.
Thanks to those who've tried to help, I will update.
Thanks to those who've tried to help, I will update.
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