Tesla Model 3 revealed

[dxg]

A good picture of the interior here. Looks a bit plain...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/3542726431...

I wonder if the air vents are hidden in that horizontal slot above the wood...

[saaby93]

dxg said:

A good picture of the interior here. Looks a bit plain...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/3542726431...

I wonder if the air vents are hidden in that horizontal slot above the wood...

Is that one of those ' there's a car in that photo'
See what you mean about the air vents

[otolith]

Dazed and Confused said:

Supposed to be a car for the masses, in the States the cheapest one is 15000 Dollars more than the cheapest Camaro.

You'd clearly still hate it if it cured cancer and brought world peace, what's the real reason for your emotional response to it?

[anonymous-user]

I have a short commute and would consider one of these without a doubt (or an EV), as would my partner, as a tool for getting A-B it seems ok, a little expensive when you review the total cost of the components and the relative ease of assembly.

But as something 'fun' for a petrolhead to actually enjoy, no, absolutely not, the P90 might be great in a straight line for 5minutes and then ... you need to wait and recharge for 2 hours; how about a road trip to rural Italy? You will need two weeks to get there, whilst keeping an eye on the range.

Live where I do, well the only charger is at home or specifically plan the route for pre-determined charge points ... not my idea of a day out.

[Venturist]

I always thought the styling of this was a little odd... it's improved since the concept, but there's still something strange. Whereas the Model S was a real looker considering it's just a saloon.

[98elise]

Trexthedinosaur said:

I have a short commute and would consider one of these without a doubt (or an EV), as would my partner, as a tool for getting A-B it seems ok, a little expensive when you review the total cost of the components and the relative ease of assembly.

But as something 'fun' for a petrolhead to actually enjoy, no, absolutely not, the P90 might be great in a straight line for 5minutes and then ... you need to wait and recharge for 2 hours; how about a road trip to rural Italy? You will need two weeks to get there, whilst keeping an eye on the range.

Live where I do, well the only charger is at home or specifically plan the route for pre-determined charge points ... not my idea of a day out.

What's cheap about the components? It's a normal car with a very expensive drivetrain. To buy one you have to accept that a lot of the cost sits in a box under the floor, which is why you can get better appointed cars for the same money.

I'd agree that as you do road trips to rural Italy it's probably not for you, but you fit into a very small % of the population and I don't think you're their target audience.

[Plug Life]

dxg said:

I've posted a video of a test "drive" above. The guy filming is a famous Tesla advocate - you should check out his channel. He seems to run some kind of courier business using his Model S, then X - and in Norway!

He's a strange man...

[anonymous-user]

98elise said:

Trexthedinosaur said:

I have a short commute and would consider one of these without a doubt (or an EV), as would my partner, as a tool for getting A-B it seems ok, a little expensive when you review the total cost of the components and the relative ease of assembly.

But as something 'fun' for a petrolhead to actually enjoy, no, absolutely not, the P90 might be great in a straight line for 5minutes and then ... you need to wait and recharge for 2 hours; how about a road trip to rural Italy? You will need two weeks to get there, whilst keeping an eye on the range.

Live where I do, well the only charger is at home or specifically plan the route for pre-determined charge points ... not my idea of a day out.

What's cheap about the components? It's a normal car with a very expensive drivetrain. To buy one you have to accept that a lot of the cost sits in a box under the floor, which is why you can get better appointed cars for the same money.

I'd agree that as you do road trips to rural Italy it's probably not for you, but you fit into a very small % of the population and I don't think you're their target audience.

Look at it, hardly the height of luxury in there, it looks cheap and nasty.

Is the drivetrain really that expensive, or are the costs just the offset from the R+D of the drivetrain and the cost will decrease as the economies of scale impact their supply chain.

[SystemParanoia]

loving the side impact test results vs the volvo s60

full vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzT0uNT0ds8


part im refrencing:
https://youtu.be/vzT0uNT0ds8?t=4m13s

[kambites]

Trexthedinosaur said:

Look at it, hardly the height of luxury in there, it looks cheap and nasty.

I suppose that depends on whether you equate luxury with bling and cuddly dashboards, or comfort and refinement. The latter is impossible to judge from pictures.

I'm not keep on the idea of touch screens (or even menu-driven systems) for major secondary controls in cars and personally I think there should be at least a speedometer directly in front of the driver, but beyond that I can't really see anything wrong with it.

[James_B]

p1stonhead said:

Only a idiot would pay cash for something available with zero percent interest.

Who wouldn't if given the option?

Edited by p1stonhead on Sunday 16th July 19:06

I wouldn't tak the 0% deal.

My emergency fund is earning 0%, I absolutely hate being in debt, I just don't want to owe anyone money if I don't have to, so I'd pay cash to not have that feeling.

[98elise]

Trexthedinosaur said:

98elise said:

Trexthedinosaur said:

I have a short commute and would consider one of these without a doubt (or an EV), as would my partner, as a tool for getting A-B it seems ok, a little expensive when you review the total cost of the components and the relative ease of assembly.

But as something 'fun' for a petrolhead to actually enjoy, no, absolutely not, the P90 might be great in a straight line for 5minutes and then ... you need to wait and recharge for 2 hours; how about a road trip to rural Italy? You will need two weeks to get there, whilst keeping an eye on the range.

Live where I do, well the only charger is at home or specifically plan the route for pre-determined charge points ... not my idea of a day out.

What's cheap about the components? It's a normal car with a very expensive drivetrain. To buy one you have to accept that a lot of the cost sits in a box under the floor, which is why you can get better appointed cars for the same money.

I'd agree that as you do road trips to rural Italy it's probably not for you, but you fit into a very small % of the population and I don't think you're their target audience.

Look at it, hardly the height of luxury in there, it looks cheap and nasty.

Is the drivetrain really that expensive, or are the costs just the offset from the R+D of the drivetrain and the cost will decrease as the economies of scale impact their supply chain.

Batteries are currently still a big cost item. Prices are dropping but it's still a significant cost that an ICE car doesn't have. I'm a fan of EV's and have a 3 on order, but I'd never argue that they are cheap to build.

As a matter of interest what you consider an expensive looking interior in a similar priced car?

[James_B]

Jader1973 said:

But is it a fast car? It is quick in a straight line but no use on a track. Even a Transit van laps the 'ring in the same time. An AMG Merc or M5 would murder it round there.

A few years ago Holden took a V8 ute round in 8:19.47.

I don't see how the Tesla can be called fast.

I like fast cars, I drive an M2 and an R8 at the moment. I also like Teslas. I looked at a model X recently, it's not right for me yet, but I think that it will be soon.

You seem to have a real issue with them, as though you are threatened by people liking them.

What is it that you drive, may I ask?

[Blaster72]

SystemParanoia said:

loving the side impact test results vs the volvo s60

full vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzT0uNT0ds8


part im refrencing:
https://youtu.be/vzT0uNT0ds8?t=4m13s

The S60 has been designed to crumple like that in a side impact like this, hence the 5 star rating. The model 3 appears to transmit all the energy into the structure without crumpling. It's a little simple for Tesla to use this as proof that their new car is safer somehow. Different designs giving similar protection to the passengers.

[saaby93]

We're seeing a gamechanger with this, in years to come we'll look at whats happened here

[Plug Life]

saaby93 said:

We're seeing a gamechanger with this, in years to come we'll look at whats happened here

Definitely the most hyped.

[VGTICE]

saaby93 said:

We're seeing a gamechanger with this, in years to come we'll look at whats happened here

Can I interest you in googling "Chevy Bolt"?

[saaby93]

VGTICE said:

saaby93 said:

We're seeing a gamechanger with this, in years to come we'll look at whats happened here

Can I interest you in googling "Chevy Bolt"?

You can but it's not on the same scale, you could also say look at the Leaf

As far as hybrids go, the game changer there has to be the Prius. It showed everyone they could work, and continue to work for huge number of miles
The stepping stones here, the roadster (where would it have been without the Elise) then the S and the X bringing in the development money for the 3. These cars have a range that's useable, to do that they realised it's not just about making cars, its making parts for cars.
Theyre going to go through a tough time ramping up production but they have incredible will behind them. In years to come the big autonotive giants may follow suit. But it's this company that's changed the game.

[otolith]

I think what they have done is to build cars which use leccy to make them desirable to people who aren't that bothered about saving the planet. The Prius took a different niche, it was entirely de-sexed in order to appeal to people who basically thought cars were a necessary evil.

[Blaster72]

If it wasn't for Uber in the UK the Prius would have totally flopped.

It'll be interesting to see if Uber drivers gradually migrate over to full EV's and all the electric charging points are hogged permanently by minicabs on charge.