Ecotricity to start charging for charging
Discussion
IN51GHT said:
IMHO it should be £1 per 5 mins, or £2 per 10mins, doubling in cost after 30mins.
All I'll do know is use the charger on my way home for 30mins to get my monies worth rather than on my way to work for 15mins, thus blocking a charger for longer.
I thought you advocated charging by kWh?All I'll do know is use the charger on my way home for 30mins to get my monies worth rather than on my way to work for 15mins, thus blocking a charger for longer.
JonV8V said:
IN51GHT said:
IMHO it should be £1 per 5 mins, or £2 per 10mins, doubling in cost after 30mins.
All I'll do know is use the charger on my way home for 30mins to get my monies worth rather than on my way to work for 15mins, thus blocking a charger for longer.
I thought you advocated charging by kWh?All I'll do know is use the charger on my way home for 30mins to get my monies worth rather than on my way to work for 15mins, thus blocking a charger for longer.
JonV8V said:
IN51GHT said:
IMHO it should be £1 per 5 mins, or £2 per 10mins, doubling in cost after 30mins.
All I'll do know is use the charger on my way home for 30mins to get my monies worth rather than on my way to work for 15mins, thus blocking a charger for longer.
I thought you advocated charging by kWh?All I'll do know is use the charger on my way home for 30mins to get my monies worth rather than on my way to work for 15mins, thus blocking a charger for longer.
There is an up side (for me) to this.
I now do not have my usual 15min top up on the way to work, I wait until on my way home & will take the full 30mins I'm paying for with my £6.
The up side is that I arrive at work 15mins earlier, so the £6 it costs me to charge in the evening is more than covered by the extra 15mins pay I get in the morning.
IN51GHT said:
I do, but the reality is that the DBT chargers do not (& can not) facilitate this, so my suggestion is based on what's possible, not what's desirable.
There is an up side (for me) to this.
I now do not have my usual 15min top up on the way to work, I wait until on my way home & will take the full 30mins I'm paying for with my £6.
The up side is that I arrive at work 15mins earlier, so the £6 it costs me to charge in the evening is more than covered by the extra 15mins pay I get in the morning.
Offset by getting home 30 mins later every dayThere is an up side (for me) to this.
I now do not have my usual 15min top up on the way to work, I wait until on my way home & will take the full 30mins I'm paying for with my £6.
The up side is that I arrive at work 15mins earlier, so the £6 it costs me to charge in the evening is more than covered by the extra 15mins pay I get in the morning.
JPJPJP said:
IN51GHT said:
I do, but the reality is that the DBT chargers do not (& can not) facilitate this, so my suggestion is based on what's possible, not what's desirable.
There is an up side (for me) to this.
I now do not have my usual 15min top up on the way to work, I wait until on my way home & will take the full 30mins I'm paying for with my £6.
The up side is that I arrive at work 15mins earlier, so the £6 it costs me to charge in the evening is more than covered by the extra 15mins pay I get in the morning.
Offset by getting home 30 mins later every dayThere is an up side (for me) to this.
I now do not have my usual 15min top up on the way to work, I wait until on my way home & will take the full 30mins I'm paying for with my £6.
The up side is that I arrive at work 15mins earlier, so the £6 it costs me to charge in the evening is more than covered by the extra 15mins pay I get in the morning.
IN51GHT said:
The up side is that I arrive at work 15mins earlier, so the £6 it costs me to charge in the evening is more than covered by the extra 15mins pay I get in the morning.
Worst "I get paid more than the minimum wage" post evvah!It's still gotta grate a bit. An extra £30/week, £100/month is a but if a kick in the nuts. Assuming you can't manage without a top up and work 5 days/week.
Can't you hook up some wet string at work and bum so free leccy from their?
dave_s13 said:
IN51GHT said:
The up side is that I arrive at work 15mins earlier, so the £6 it costs me to charge in the evening is more than covered by the extra 15mins pay I get in the morning.
Worst "I get paid more than the minimum wage" post evvah!It's still gotta grate a bit. An extra £30/week, £100/month is a but if a kick in the nuts. Assuming you can't manage without a top up and work 5 days/week.
Can't you hook up some wet string at work and bum so free leccy from their?
IN51GHT said:
hornetrider said:
You get paid by the minute? What do you do out of interest?
No, I'm hourly paid, but round down to the nearest 15min.I'm a consultant engineer for Williams F1 & Lead Engineer on Bloodhound SSC
hornetrider said:
IN51GHT said:
hornetrider said:
You get paid by the minute? What do you do out of interest?
No, I'm hourly paid, but round down to the nearest 15min.I'm a consultant engineer for Williams F1 & Lead Engineer on Bloodhound SSC
IN51GHT said:
hornetrider said:
IN51GHT said:
hornetrider said:
You get paid by the minute? What do you do out of interest?
No, I'm hourly paid, but round down to the nearest 15min.I'm a consultant engineer for Williams F1 & Lead Engineer on Bloodhound SSC
hornetrider said:
IN51GHT said:
hornetrider said:
IN51GHT said:
hornetrider said:
You get paid by the minute? What do you do out of interest?
No, I'm hourly paid, but round down to the nearest 15min.I'm a consultant engineer for Williams F1 & Lead Engineer on Bloodhound SSC
modeller said:
Welshbeef said:
What about the forthcoming govt duty charges on per Kw/HR. That will be coming and no one will be able to escape it.
PAYG for roads is only a matter of time once fuel duty starts to drop. Duty on electricity for charging a car - how? Issue I have is PAYG for roads and ICE they will be paying duty twice once on the fuel and then again on PAYG seems not fair.
Welshbeef said:
modeller said:
Welshbeef said:
What about the forthcoming govt duty charges on per Kw/HR. That will be coming and no one will be able to escape it.
PAYG for roads is only a matter of time once fuel duty starts to drop. Duty on electricity for charging a car - how? Issue I have is PAYG for roads and ICE they will be paying duty twice once on the fuel and then again on PAYG seems not fair.
They want to get rid of ICE so a double whammy will just accelerate it.
JonV8V said:
Still don't see how they will put duty on home charging as there's nothing to differentiate it from household use, and putting tax on that will effect grannies - hence why VAT is reduced on utility bills.
They want to get rid of ICE so a double whammy will just accelerate it.
Easy have a modular uniform figment meaning that you have a special socket which can only be installed by a registered individual which will have a separate meter. They want to get rid of ICE so a double whammy will just accelerate it.
I'm not sure they will double up duty on fuel as guess what old granny has to buy food clothing stuff which has a logistics operation. There is nothing planned even on the long horizon for electric HGVs. I'd welcome it ditto taxi and buses clean air in towns past schools and no smog on uphill with a full wagon/they would be able to hold full speed all the way up the hill with EV.
smacks of profiteering....
Get a market up entice them in with free charging, people buy into the plan - then when you have them pop in charging, Its so unregulated - how do you know aht you are getting for the £5 ? its time based not energy based so they could start to restrict the current and all that.
At least with fuel you are being metered out a specific quantity.
This is a significant change and one that will discourage more taking up this offer. People are not interested in green environmental benefits but the all in deal being cheaper than a petrol or diesel car. This bangs that right out the window and right out the user chooser through back having to pay for fuel. it may not be hydrocarbons but its still fuel costs.
Get a market up entice them in with free charging, people buy into the plan - then when you have them pop in charging, Its so unregulated - how do you know aht you are getting for the £5 ? its time based not energy based so they could start to restrict the current and all that.
At least with fuel you are being metered out a specific quantity.
This is a significant change and one that will discourage more taking up this offer. People are not interested in green environmental benefits but the all in deal being cheaper than a petrol or diesel car. This bangs that right out the window and right out the user chooser through back having to pay for fuel. it may not be hydrocarbons but its still fuel costs.
ruggedscotty said:
smacks of profiteering....
Get a market up entice them in with free charging, people buy into the plan - then when you have them pop in charging, Its so unregulated - how do you know aht you are getting for the £5 ? its time based not energy based so they could start to restrict the current and all that.
At least with fuel you are being metered out a specific quantity.
This is a significant change and one that will discourage more taking up this offer. People are not interested in green environmental benefits but the all in deal being cheaper than a petrol or diesel car. This bangs that right out the window and right out the user chooser through back having to pay for fuel. it may not be hydrocarbons but its still fuel costs.
Who knows how long Elon M will keep ownership of the supercharger network? Or keep them free for Tesla Model P90D owners.... Energy isn't free Get a market up entice them in with free charging, people buy into the plan - then when you have them pop in charging, Its so unregulated - how do you know aht you are getting for the £5 ? its time based not energy based so they could start to restrict the current and all that.
At least with fuel you are being metered out a specific quantity.
This is a significant change and one that will discourage more taking up this offer. People are not interested in green environmental benefits but the all in deal being cheaper than a petrol or diesel car. This bangs that right out the window and right out the user chooser through back having to pay for fuel. it may not be hydrocarbons but its still fuel costs.
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