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Jason. You seem to have one argument: I don't like hybrids. Its not a great argument, but it hasn't stopped you using it on all the threads regarding the subject.
If everyone who has one is wrong then smile to yourself with the satisfaction that you are far more switched on than the rest of us.
Your constant assertion that hybrids are an expensive waste of time just isn't buttering any parsnips.
If everyone who has one is wrong then smile to yourself with the satisfaction that you are far more switched on than the rest of us.
Your constant assertion that hybrids are an expensive waste of time just isn't buttering any parsnips.
Rob, sorry you're quite wrong, I do like hybrids, I've one on order. I simply like them for the low bik for a fast, nicely specced car. If you read my last comment I said each car has its merits? Not sure where your negativity comes from.
I can't see them making sense if its not a company car, how spending 25+% over the cost of the 'regular' version makes any real sense?
I can't see them making sense if its not a company car, how spending 25+% over the cost of the 'regular' version makes any real sense?
Edited by jason61c on Monday 18th July 09:08
Managed to get a test drive in golf gte today, i quite liked it actually, gathering speed on to dual carriage way smoother than the volvo i tried last week, steering feel ok and the actual wheel much nicer, seats comfortable but possible not so much as the volvo. So for an extra 20 quid a month will the volvo diesel be any nore economical? I can charge at work most days. Awd might be nice, but overall the golf swemed a decent steer and the gte button is entertaining
sawman said:
Managed to get a test drive in golf gte today, i quite liked it actually, gathering speed on to dual carriage way smoother than the volvo i tried last week, steering feel ok and the actual wheel much nicer, seats comfortable but possible not so much as the volvo. So for an extra 20 quid a month will the volvo diesel be any nore economical? I can charge at work most days. Awd might be nice, but overall the golf swemed a decent steer and the gte button is entertaining
Which volvo did you try? The golf gte and a3 etron were some of the worse PHEV's for smoothness. jason61c said:
Which volvo did you try? The golf gte and a3 etron were some of the worse PHEV's for smoothness.
D5 twin engine - i think part of the volvos issue is the clattery diesel, i have never had a diesel and the tone is unfamiliar, i think the dsg box in the vw helps it along Edited by sawman on Saturday 23 July 12:10
jason61c said:
Rob, sorry you're quite wrong, I do like hybrids, I've one on order. I simply like them for the low bik for a fast, nicely specced car. If you read my last comment I said each car has its merits? Not sure where your negativity comes from.
I can't see them making sense if its not a company car, how spending 25+% over the cost of the 'regular' version makes any real sense?
25%+ extra, really? Are BMW the exception to the rule then, only 5% more expensive for the 330e over auto 330i. Possibly cheaper if an outright purchase new car and some olev grant is still an option.I can't see them making sense if its not a company car, how spending 25+% over the cost of the 'regular' version makes any real sense?
Edited by jason61c on Monday 18th July 09:08
sawman said:
D5 twin engine - i think part of the volvos issue is the clattery diesel, i have never had a diesel and the tone is unfamiliar, i think the dsg box in the vw helps it along
see, I'm not a big fan of the DSG box, it shouldn't be clattery, the 5 cyl engine sounds quite nice. I guess its about getting something that suits your needs.Edited by sawman on Saturday 23 July 12:10
jason61c said:
DragonflyTrumpeter said:
25%+ extra, really? Are BMW the exception to the rule then, only 5% more expensive for the 330e over auto 330i. Possibly cheaper if an outright purchase new car and some olev grant is still an option.
320...The merc and BMW are labelled as 350 and 330 as that's where they fit in the range.
jason61c said:
see, I'm not a big fan of the DSG box, it shouldn't be clattery, the 5 cyl engine sounds quite nice. I guess its about getting something that suits your needs.
maybe clattery isnt the word - Gruff more like. my current car is a super smooth petrol flat 6 so I think the 5 cyl diesel is just a different character, whereas the vw 4 pot it less alien to my earsI have been mulling it over all afternoon and I am still torn, both of them suit my purpose ( i dont really need the extra space of the volvo), but it has the advantage of AWD which might be useful in the winter up in Northumberland, whilst the golf seemed a bit more nimble. they are more or less the same cost to me, but the volvo may be cheaper to run overall.
jason61c said:
DragonflyTrumpeter said:
25%+ extra, really? Are BMW the exception to the rule then, only 5% more expensive for the 330e over auto 330i. Possibly cheaper if an outright purchase new car and some olev grant is still an option.
320...It is not a 320e and it certainly does not drive like a 320i, apples and oranges.
Didn't know a lot about the Volvo as it wasn't announced when's made my choice.
Looking into it there see to be a couple of potential problems:
1. It's AWD which will prevent it being a choice for a large percentage of company car drivers.
2. In the affordable, but basic SE poverty spec its performance (0-60 in 6.7 seconds particuarly) make it closer to a rep spec BMW orMerc.
3. The quicker r design version is hilariously priced at £53,000. The base price of a Tesla model S.
Looking into it there see to be a couple of potential problems:
1. It's AWD which will prevent it being a choice for a large percentage of company car drivers.
2. In the affordable, but basic SE poverty spec its performance (0-60 in 6.7 seconds particuarly) make it closer to a rep spec BMW orMerc.
3. The quicker r design version is hilariously priced at £53,000. The base price of a Tesla model S.
robemcdonald said:
Didn't know a lot about the Volvo as it wasn't announced when's made my choice.
Looking into it there see to be a couple of potential problems:
1. It's AWD which will prevent it being a choice for a large percentage of company car drivers.
2. In the affordable, but basic SE poverty spec its performance (0-60 in 6.7 seconds particuarly) make it closer to a rep spec BMW orMerc.
3. The quicker r design version is hilariously priced at £53,000. The base price of a Tesla model S.
1. Its not AWD, its got the facility to be with enough charge for a limited range, same as the bmw 225xe etc. Its made for company car drivers, not sure why its not suited? Its also got a normal 500+mile range.Looking into it there see to be a couple of potential problems:
1. It's AWD which will prevent it being a choice for a large percentage of company car drivers.
2. In the affordable, but basic SE poverty spec its performance (0-60 in 6.7 seconds particuarly) make it closer to a rep spec BMW orMerc.
3. The quicker r design version is hilariously priced at £53,000. The base price of a Tesla model S.
2. They only do it in SE Nav spec, which is better specced than the c350e and bmw 330e, proper leather for a start, 6.7 to 60 is still quick, as quick as the merc estate, its also got more combined torque for the useful areas of 40-80mph. Its real world quick.
3. The d6 version isn't the one being discussed, its a bonkers price, but did come out a few years ago.
Edited by jason61c on Sunday 24th July 08:48
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