Tesla and Uber Unlikely to Survive...
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Witchfinder said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
Now call my cynical, but that would be at least £20k depreciation every 9 months, and probably more. He mentioned the guy was buying the car through his business.
Sounds like money laundering!I'm speculating to some degree, as I'm not certain this is what some people are doing - it just isn't what HMRC intended when they made their rules imho.
ElectricSoup said:
Heres Johnny said:
ElectricSoup said:
Sure, work charging could stop. Then I'd have to pay about £30 a month to do my monthly 800 miles. That's a lot cheaper than diesel - I have a second diesel car which would cost £180 to fuel to go 800 miles (2005 E320 CDI estate). Also, how is my PCP subsidised? It's a PCP on a used car. There is no subsidy. I expect to change the car for another (3 years newer) used car on a PCP for a broadly similar rate after 3 years. VED? Nope. All Nissan Leafs are still VED free.
Of course there will be changes. I can't envisage one which will make a used Nissan Leaf as expensive to buy and run as an equivalent aged VW Golf ICE however. Not yet.
Your Merc is dreadful - buy a BMW, my old BMW 640D gran coupe used to do 40mpg all day long, ok it would cost £130 not £30 to do 800 miles but it would do it in a lot of comfort. Of course there will be changes. I can't envisage one which will make a used Nissan Leaf as expensive to buy and run as an equivalent aged VW Golf ICE however. Not yet.
Once Uber has its IPO, which it will by March 19 we can start bashing it. It’s a POS company that’s creates nothing but misery in my opinion. Anyone who buys the stock with a 120b valuation is a moron. It has pissed through 20b and still loses 1b a quarter. I say they will never make a return. They’ve had 18 fundraising rounds.
Burwood said:
Once Uber has its IPO, which it will by March 19 we can start bashing it. It’s a POS company that’s creates nothing but misery in my opinion. Anyone who buys the stock with a 120b valuation is a moron. It has pissed through 20b and still loses 1b a quarter. I say they will never make a return. They’ve had 18 fundraising rounds.
I'm not interested in investing in it, but I do use it and like it. To me, it doesn't matter if Uber as a company makes it or not - the concept is excellent and will continue to thrive, whether via an Uber app or Lyft or something else. Burwood said:
Once Uber has its IPO, which it will by March 19 we can start bashing it. It’s a POS company that’s creates nothing but misery in my opinion. Anyone who buys the stock with a 120b valuation is a moron. It has pissed through 20b and still loses 1b a quarter. I say they will never make a return. They’ve had 18 fundraising rounds.
How is it? I know loads of Uber drivers who absolutely love working for them. I use Uber most days and it's excellent. Far better than black cabs.
jjwilde said:
Burwood said:
Once Uber has its IPO, which it will by March 19 we can start bashing it. It’s a POS company that’s creates nothing but misery in my opinion. Anyone who buys the stock with a 120b valuation is a moron. It has pissed through 20b and still loses 1b a quarter. I say they will never make a return. They’ve had 18 fundraising rounds.
How is it? I know loads of Uber drivers who absolutely love working for them. I use Uber most days and it's excellent. Far better than black cabs.
EddieSteadyGo said:
I'm not interested in investing in it, but I do use it and like it. To me, it doesn't matter if Uber as a company makes it or not - the concept is excellent and will continue to thrive, whether via an Uber app or Lyft or something else.
I work for a company that networks cab companies together to effectively make them a national Uber competitor. The cab companies have their own local apps, but you can book anywhere in the UK.We're handling more than 1.5m bookings per day worldwide, with a LOT less resources than Uber. Uber is a well known name, but it's massively overvalued.
Witchfinder said:
I work for a company that networks cab companies together to effectively make them a national Uber competitor. The cab companies have their own local apps, but you can book anywhere in the UK.
We're handling more than 1.5m bookings per day worldwide, with a LOT less resources than Uber. Uber is a well known name, but it's massively overvalued.
Makes sense and sounds good. IMO this type of solution is the way forward.We're handling more than 1.5m bookings per day worldwide, with a LOT less resources than Uber. Uber is a well known name, but it's massively overvalued.
I remember the old days when you tried to call a private hire company, and they would pick and choose whether they were interested in taking the job. So you might have to call 3 or 4 companies to find someone a) able to do the job b) willing to do the job c) able to offer a reasonable price.
I know Uber are having a few problems with drivers checking the destination and then cancelling, but this will be ironed out. Uber drivers mostly realise they need to take the rough with the smooth, and that's better in the long term for everyone including drivers and customers.
hyphen said:
Why do they love working for them?
Because they make a lot of money from it. I live in Newcastle, they make excellent wages for this area. It leads to a superb quality of life up here. They can work whenever they want too which almost all of them mention as an excellent benefit.They also tell me horror stories about local cab firms they used to work for, often owned by criminal families.
EddieSteadyGo said:
Burwood said:
Once Uber has its IPO, which it will by March 19 we can start bashing it. It’s a POS company that’s creates nothing but misery in my opinion. Anyone who buys the stock with a 120b valuation is a moron. It has pissed through 20b and still loses 1b a quarter. I say they will never make a return. They’ve had 18 fundraising rounds.
I'm not interested in investing in it, but I do use it and like it. To me, it doesn't matter if Uber as a company makes it or not - the concept is excellent and will continue to thrive, whether via an Uber app or Lyft or something else. The only time I use Uber now is for Uber Pool if I'm not in a hurry and want to save some cash. You meet interesting people that way!
I used Uber in Newcastle the other day. Fantastic service, lovely drivers, everything just worked. But it was just a minicab - Uber added a recognisable brand on top, that's all. I already had the app, so I used it. But little barrier to entry.
Heres Johnny said:
ElectricSoup said:
Heres Johnny said:
ElectricSoup said:
Sure, work charging could stop. Then I'd have to pay about £30 a month to do my monthly 800 miles. That's a lot cheaper than diesel - I have a second diesel car which would cost £180 to fuel to go 800 miles (2005 E320 CDI estate). Also, how is my PCP subsidised? It's a PCP on a used car. There is no subsidy. I expect to change the car for another (3 years newer) used car on a PCP for a broadly similar rate after 3 years. VED? Nope. All Nissan Leafs are still VED free.
Of course there will be changes. I can't envisage one which will make a used Nissan Leaf as expensive to buy and run as an equivalent aged VW Golf ICE however. Not yet.
Your Merc is dreadful - buy a BMW, my old BMW 640D gran coupe used to do 40mpg all day long, ok it would cost £130 not £30 to do 800 miles but it would do it in a lot of comfort. Of course there will be changes. I can't envisage one which will make a used Nissan Leaf as expensive to buy and run as an equivalent aged VW Golf ICE however. Not yet.
ElectricSoup said:
Sure, work charging could stop. Then I'd have to pay about £30 a month to do my monthly 800 miles. That's a lot cheaper than diesel - I have a second diesel car which would cost £180 to fuel to go 800 miles (2005 E320 CDI estate). Also, how is my PCP subsidised? It's a PCP on a used car. There is no subsidy. I expect to change the car for another (3 years newer) used car on a PCP for a broadly similar rate after 3 years. VED? Nope. All Nissan Leafs are still VED free.
Of course there will be changes. I can't envisage one which will make a used Nissan Leaf as expensive to buy and run as an equivalent aged VW Golf ICE however. Not yet.
Don't worry Im sure once ICE Cars have gone and most if not all are driving Electric, the government will find a way of taxing you for the difference in your current savings, its just they haven't worked out yet how.........in the same way they will charge you for a media licence instead of a TV licence. Watch this space Of course there will be changes. I can't envisage one which will make a used Nissan Leaf as expensive to buy and run as an equivalent aged VW Golf ICE however. Not yet.
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