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Heres Johnny said:
AstonZagato said:
This type of thing is just not and issue if you have a Tesla.
It can be an issue with any EV buyer who does zero research, including Tesla. If you want the right car for the job it’s best to figure out what the job is before buying...........
AstonZagato said:
This type of thing is just not and issue if you have a Tesla.
Thats entirely subjective on where you live.There are 4 superchargers in the whole of Scotland and nothing serving the largest population center. Its easy enough to wind up at the mercy of the public charger network.
That being said, I don't own an EV yet know what cards and memberships I would need to have to charge one. Owning one and not having that sort of thing boxed off is just asking for trouble.
REALIST123 said:
Heres Johnny said:
AstonZagato said:
This type of thing is just not and issue if you have a Tesla.
It can be an issue with any EV buyer who does zero research, including Tesla. If you want the right car for the job it’s best to figure out what the job is before buying...........
RobDickinson said:
Sounds utterly invented worst case scenario I'm only surprised it didn't burst into flames also.
Not really, its called reality. Funny how the only people who think the state of public EV charging is adequate seem to be people who don't own EVs.
Pop on the iPace forum, there is a lovely story about one chap who ended up with his $80K+ EV been towed to its destination after some public charging failure. A £5K Dacia Duster would have done the job quicker with much less faffing.
Having now done coming up to 45K EV miles in the UK I wouldn't go back to combustion cars. But at the same time I'm not to completely ditch combustion cars from the drive way. Though not many people need to do 300 miles non-stop in one go, many people - my self included, do 100-150 miles trips for work, and often with 0% chance of destination charging, and at the end of a long day at work the last thing anyone wants to do is than having to stop during rush hour to charge up - That's before you factor in charging anxiety.
I've mocked Toyota before for not jumping on the EV bandwagon earlier, but actually for long distance trips my wife Lexus hybrid is far quicker/convenient than our Tesla, that despite the Tesla having access to the best and quickest public charging setup by a long way. Which is why for long work trips it's the Lexus that gets taken, and why I cancelled our Model 3 order. There needs to be another 30-50% jump in range before EVs can be truly as convent as combustion cars for certain long trips.
EVs are the future, but the state of the current public charging network is a shambles, you have a better chance of getting to your destination ontime if you took the trains - which is saying something.
Keeping the cost base controlled? Or more to worry about
http://ir.tesla.com/static-files/e281d34b-663b-46f...
http://ir.tesla.com/static-files/e281d34b-663b-46f...
k waiting to/has happened
Elon Musk's Tesla to cut about 3,000 jobs as cars 'too expensive'
Oh what a surprise
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46919489
Oh what a surprise
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46919489
The Tesla referral program is being closed as of 1st of Feb this year. It was seen as being too costly.
I can see why - having so far "won" 2 wall chargers worth £500+ each and a set of wheels and tyres worth £3k ish with my code.
There goes my hope for a discounted roadster!
There seems to be lots of volume limiting things going on in the next few months:
1) US incentives running out
2) Model S 75 model discontinued
3) Referral program ended
We will see if these get countered by:
1) Any increases in demand as more cars get out there,
2) Ramping European and Chinese demand
3) More people get to drive them increasing visibility
4) Possibly the addition of a Tesla leasing program
5) May be this year release of the short range cheap version (although this will be competing with the likes of the Kona and Niro (if the volumes are available -42 wk wait in UK) which will be a similar price with more range?
I can see why - having so far "won" 2 wall chargers worth £500+ each and a set of wheels and tyres worth £3k ish with my code.
There goes my hope for a discounted roadster!
There seems to be lots of volume limiting things going on in the next few months:
1) US incentives running out
2) Model S 75 model discontinued
3) Referral program ended
We will see if these get countered by:
1) Any increases in demand as more cars get out there,
2) Ramping European and Chinese demand
3) More people get to drive them increasing visibility
4) Possibly the addition of a Tesla leasing program
5) May be this year release of the short range cheap version (although this will be competing with the likes of the Kona and Niro (if the volumes are available -42 wk wait in UK) which will be a similar price with more range?
Tesla are clearly on a mission this quarter about margins.....
Killing the cheaper less profitable 75D S/X, no more RWD Model 3, upping AutoPilot prices post delivery to drive more people to order AutoPilot on delivery, and now the HEPA filter retrofit is back for $500,
I had the HEPA filter retrofitted by Tesla on my first Model X for a total cost of £180 including labour+vat, so 'offering' the same kit for $500 is quite a decent margin.
https://electrek.co/2019/01/17/tesla-hepa-air-filt...
Hopefully this means we'll see the 'cheaper' Model 3 appear soon, but who knows.
Killing the cheaper less profitable 75D S/X, no more RWD Model 3, upping AutoPilot prices post delivery to drive more people to order AutoPilot on delivery, and now the HEPA filter retrofit is back for $500,
I had the HEPA filter retrofitted by Tesla on my first Model X for a total cost of £180 including labour+vat, so 'offering' the same kit for $500 is quite a decent margin.
https://electrek.co/2019/01/17/tesla-hepa-air-filt...
Hopefully this means we'll see the 'cheaper' Model 3 appear soon, but who knows.
It’s the big model transition from everything being subsidised by the investors to everything needing to be paid for by the consumer. This change was arguably always going to take place in 2019 but the huge economic slowdown in global premium goods consumption married with Tesla’s typical delays in delivering the essential ‘cheap’ car is the real problem that’s going to be a huge headwind.
The sell premium priced goods that aren’t specifically needed. They can’t avoid global market forces regardless of what their product actually is or how desirable it is.
The sell premium priced goods that aren’t specifically needed. They can’t avoid global market forces regardless of what their product actually is or how desirable it is.
Here we go
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46919489
Electric carmaker Tesla has said it will cut its workforce by 7% after the "most challenging" year in its history.
"This quarter will hopefully allow us, with great difficulty, effort and some luck, to target a tiny profit,"
Theo Leggett, business correspondent:
Tesla is in a race against time.
Daniel
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46919489
Electric carmaker Tesla has said it will cut its workforce by 7% after the "most challenging" year in its history.
"This quarter will hopefully allow us, with great difficulty, effort and some luck, to target a tiny profit,"
Theo Leggett, business correspondent:
Tesla is in a race against time.
Daniel
dhutch said:
Here we go
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46919489
Electric carmaker Tesla has said it will cut its workforce by 7% after the "most challenging" year in its history.
"This quarter will hopefully allow us, with great difficulty, effort and some luck, to target a tiny profit,"
Theo Leggett, business correspondent:
Tesla is in a race against time.
Daniel
This thread has been posting this sort of stuff since 2017. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46919489
Electric carmaker Tesla has said it will cut its workforce by 7% after the "most challenging" year in its history.
"This quarter will hopefully allow us, with great difficulty, effort and some luck, to target a tiny profit,"
Theo Leggett, business correspondent:
Tesla is in a race against time.
Daniel
Surely THIS time it's the end for Tesla, right.... right?
Mr2Mike said:
Does the RWD Model 3 have better range than the AWD version? I'd assume so as it would be lighter.
Yes. Also because it has the more efficient motor, whereas the AWD and performance versions have the additional, less efficient motor driving the front wheels.The tyres also make quite a difference to range, so if you have a RWD with 18" wheels and the 'economy' tyres, you'll go further.
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