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[hyphen]

jamoor said:

These are the real figures of 330e vs M3SR+ not the fictional ones, BMW on left.

Dude, you are embarrassing yourself now.

The BIK% for the PHEV is 16%: https://www.bmwbusinesspartnership.co.uk/offers/bm...

[jamoor]

hyphen said:

Dude, you are embarrassing yourself now.

The BIK% for the PHEV is 16%: https://www.bmwbusinesspartnership.co.uk/offers/bm...

For which year?

[hyphen]

BMW even have a comparison tool on their own site: https://compare.bmw.co.uk/home/go/company/71?kee=1...

Tesla don't even have a DAB radio for fks sakes

Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 18th December 00:19

[jamoor]

hyphen said:

BMW even have a comparison tool on their own site: https://compare.bmw.co.uk/home/go/company/71?kee=1...

You realise it looks like this for the BMW?

[hyphen]

Current Tesla BIK% is 16% so why are you listing 12?

After April 2020, they may go to 0, but this was proposed and meant to be in the Nov Budget, But as this was cancelled due to elections, it is tbc, so as it stands today I call it 16%

Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 18th December 00:17

[jamoor]

hyphen said:

Current Tesla BIK% is 16% so why are you listing 12?

After April 2020, they may go to 0, but this was proposed and meant to be in the Nov Budget, But as this was cancelled due to elections, it is tbc, so as it stands today I call it 16%

Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 18th December 00:17

You're clutching to straws now mate!

[hyphen]

jamoor said:

You're clutching to straws now mate!

Half an hour ago you were saying only the i3 in the BMW range qualified for any bik.

You're clutching the shorter straw

[jjwilde]

hyphen said:

What's driving it? China coming on board is known, Model Y coming in early (on time) is known.

So what's new? Your post is pretty pointless without this info you know.

Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 18th December 00:21

Tesla share price at record high is pointless in a thread about how Tesla will fail. OK man.

Perhaps another record sales quarter but you already know that's coming.

[anonymous-user]

hyphen said:

What's driving it? China coming on board is known, Model Y coming in early (on time) is known.

So what's new? Your post is pretty pointless without this info you know.

Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 18th December 00:21

How much, if any, of the price is attributable to QE (and other such programmes)? The money from such programmes largely flows into stocks...

[coetzeeh]

jjwilde said:

Tesla share price at record high is pointless in a thread about how Tesla will fail. OK man.

Perhaps another record sales quarter but you already know that's coming.

Selling the sales record at a profit would be helpful too.

[SWoll]

hyphen said:

BMW even have a comparison tool on their own site: https://compare.bmw.co.uk/home/go/company/71?kee=1...

Tesla don't even have a DAB radio for fks sakes

Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 18th December 00:19

According to that the Model 3 SR+ also doesn't have rain sensing wipers, auto-on headlights or autonomous emergency braking and takes 5.7 seconds to get to 60. Who's list did you say it was again?

Funnily enough it also doesn't mention electric seats with memory function and lumbar support, panoramic glass roof, high beam assist, seat heating for all seats, split fold rear bench etc. I wonder why not?

hyphen said:

jamoor said:

You're clutching to straws now mate!

Half an hour ago you were saying only the i3 in the BMW range qualified for any bik.

You're clutching the shorter straw

Pretty sure the statement was that only the i3 qualifies for the 0% BIK from April, which is correct?

Edited by SWoll on Wednesday 18th December 07:33

[jamoor]

DAB is dated technology, it has streaming via the internet instead

[SWoll]

jamoor said:

DAB is dated technology, it has streaming via the internet instead

Which funnily enough also isn't mentioned in that list. The Model 3 does apparently have an aux input though?

[Witchfinder]

SWoll said:

Which funnily enough also isn't mentioned in that list. The Model 3 does apparently have an aux input though?

Why, it doesn't even have a gramophone! Or a pipe-lighter!

[gangzoom]

jamoor said:

DAB is dated technology, it has streaming via the internet instead

The S/X has DAB, the only time I've used it in the last 3 years is when the father-in-law was in the car and we were waiting for the ladies to finish shopping, the test match was on and I couldn't' get it to stream properly on my phone due to poor reception, so instead we listened to 5 Live Xtra.

I found listening to Cricket on DAB just as exciting as watching it on TV .

[jamoor]

gangzoom said:

The S/X has DAB, the only time I've used it in the last 3 years is when the father-in-law was in the car and we were waiting for the ladies to finish shopping, the test match was on and I couldn't' get it to stream properly on my phone due to poor reception, so instead we listened to 5 Live Xtra.

I found listening to Cricket on DAB just as exciting as watching it on TV .

Indeed most sane people would just hook up their phones and listen to anything they want steaming through the phone.

[coetzeeh]

On Monday US Congress declined to raise the tax credit incentive currently capped at 200k vehicles sold by manufacturer to 600k.

Tesla and GM both exceeding this number with Nissan next likely to breach at 130k EV sales.

[hyphen]

coetzeeh said:

On Monday US Congress declined to raise the tax credit incentive currently capped at 200k vehicles sold by manufacturer to 600k.

Tesla and GM both exceeding this number with Nissan next likely to breach at 130k EV sales.

Did you happen to follow the debate and reasons as to why?

Surprised as with the Europeans on way, imagined they would look favourably.

[coetzeeh]

hyphen said:

coetzeeh said:

On Monday US Congress declined to raise the tax credit incentive currently capped at 200k vehicles sold by manufacturer to 600k.

Tesla and GM both exceeding this number with Nissan next likely to breach at 130k EV sales.

Did you happen to follow the debate and reasons as to why?

Surprised as with the Europeans on way, imagined they would look favourably.

I did not follow the debate but a summary in the link - there is a link within the attached link summarising the discussion.

Also, research showing those who benefit from the incentive are 85% white, male, earn more than $100k per annum and hence seen as favouring the well heeled.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidblackmon/2019/12...

[SWoll]

coetzeeh said:

I did not follow the debate but a summary in the link - there is a link within the attached link summarising the discussion.

Also, research showing those who benefit from the incentive are 85% white, male, earn more than $100k per annum and hence seen as favouring the well heeled.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidblackmon/2019/12...

Yep, balls to the environment if the patriarchy might benefit. Keep them in their V8's!