Charging Point at work
Discussion
Now I have my 330e on order I want to look at charging it (I don't really need to as I have a fuel card but wouldn't mind if it was easy)
We dont have any charging points at work so while I can plug it in with the 3 pin, a charging point would be cool (and fit with our company ethos)
Before I speak to the relevant people are there any benefits for the company in getting one installed? I can see there is a £300 grant which doesnt bring the cost down much) is that the only incentive?
We dont have any charging points at work so while I can plug it in with the 3 pin, a charging point would be cool (and fit with our company ethos)
Before I speak to the relevant people are there any benefits for the company in getting one installed? I can see there is a £300 grant which doesnt bring the cost down much) is that the only incentive?
I don't believe there are any financial benefits for the company.
I arranged to have 5 fitted at our offices; no real benefit to anybody but the driver. It does give a whole 'sustainability' vibe though, which is handy in my industry.
If you do get them fitted, unless you have 24hr monitored parking, make sure the installer fits a timed isolator to the circuit. You don't really want Joe Public charging his car off the company grid during the night.
I arranged to have 5 fitted at our offices; no real benefit to anybody but the driver. It does give a whole 'sustainability' vibe though, which is handy in my industry.
If you do get them fitted, unless you have 24hr monitored parking, make sure the installer fits a timed isolator to the circuit. You don't really want Joe Public charging his car off the company grid during the night.
The Beaver King said:
I don't believe there are any financial benefits for the company.
I arranged to have 5 fitted at our offices; no real benefit to anybody but the driver. It does give a whole 'sustainability' vibe though, which is handy in my industry.
If you do get them fitted, unless you have 24hr monitored parking, make sure the installer fits a timed isolator to the circuit. You don't really want Joe Public charging his car off the company grid during the night.
Ok cheersI arranged to have 5 fitted at our offices; no real benefit to anybody but the driver. It does give a whole 'sustainability' vibe though, which is handy in my industry.
If you do get them fitted, unless you have 24hr monitored parking, make sure the installer fits a timed isolator to the circuit. You don't really want Joe Public charging his car off the company grid during the night.
Agree on sustainability vibe, we have similar as we are Print/Pack/Recycling
Good shout on the timing, although to come to our office you really have to be coming here, its not a place you just drive past
The downside of fitting a company charge point at work is that the company must under HMRC rules account for the electricity cost provided to the employee and the cost would need to be declared as a benefit in kind on P11D. Having a dedicated charge points makes it more or less impossible not to do this.
TooLateForAName said:
Why would it be dedicated?
Available to any employee with an EV.
I think he means as a dedicated charging point/wall unit/bollard opposed to a simple 13a socket near the car park.Available to any employee with an EV.
If there is a car charging bollard you would have to tell HMRC and comply with the tax implications of offering charging to staff. Or if it weren't a benefit then there would need to be a pricing structure and method in place for staff to pay for the electricity.
Where as with a 13a socket there is potential to claim ignorance that a staff member is charging a car...
Well I must admit I doubted you guys, but no you are correct. Spoke to MD and he had previously looked into it and yeah it not as easy at it looks
As I am the only one with a hybrid due for now he's gonna chuck a 3 pin weatherproof socket outside (near where I park) for the maintenance guy to plug his leafblower into
He has said he thinks the Hybrids in the car park will explode this year as most people are seeing the BIK benefits at which point he may get a few proper posts installed and deal with the HMRC nonsense
As I am the only one with a hybrid due for now he's gonna chuck a 3 pin weatherproof socket outside (near where I park) for the maintenance guy to plug his leafblower into
He has said he thinks the Hybrids in the car park will explode this year as most people are seeing the BIK benefits at which point he may get a few proper posts installed and deal with the HMRC nonsense
chris56 said:
The downside of fitting a company charge point at work is that the company must under HMRC rules account for the electricity cost provided to the employee and the cost would need to be declared as a benefit in kind on P11D. Having a dedicated charge points makes it more or less impossible not to do this.
This depends on whether the OP is a company car driver or not...If company has a charge point and company car drivers use it, there is no taxable benefit (HMRC don't class electricity as fuel).
However if private driver employee uses it they can be taxed, which is an anomaly.
I can post a link if it helps you win a debate with your MD.
On the sustainability front, they would be reducing CO2 and NOX and allowing PHEV drivers to run further on battery.
Additionally the simple thing is get a smart charger with RFID control, the charge point only allows authorised card holders to use it, so no worry about rogue drivers nicking power from your company. These chargers allow the employer to recharge any drivers if they want so they can get round HMRC for any of their staff.
When I got my Leaf for the first 6 months I had to do the 42 mile round trip from charge at home. Fortunately this was mostly summer and starting at 80% charge mode (10 of the 12 bars) I would typically have 15 miles range 2 bars left.
50K miles on the battery deterioration means I could only just do this now from 100% charge with little margin left. So fortunately for the last 4 years a 13A socket and free power was put in for me. We are a technology company so it looks good for visitors, inc local government dignitaries etc.
We now have 6, 13A sockets and up to 5 colleagues with hybrids also charge, I remain the only pure electric who really needs it to get home.
Initially we thought it being an eco thing there was no tax liability, and the capitol cost of the Leaf was high for me of course. A few months ago I flagged up that it is now a BIK but have heard nothing. Clearly measuring what staff take is tricky requiring some kind of measurement and logging in. I await with interest to see what happens.
50K miles on the battery deterioration means I could only just do this now from 100% charge with little margin left. So fortunately for the last 4 years a 13A socket and free power was put in for me. We are a technology company so it looks good for visitors, inc local government dignitaries etc.
We now have 6, 13A sockets and up to 5 colleagues with hybrids also charge, I remain the only pure electric who really needs it to get home.
Initially we thought it being an eco thing there was no tax liability, and the capitol cost of the Leaf was high for me of course. A few months ago I flagged up that it is now a BIK but have heard nothing. Clearly measuring what staff take is tricky requiring some kind of measurement and logging in. I await with interest to see what happens.
I work for a UK arm of a massive American global corporation. We have an army of tax and compliance officers.
We have free charging at work (2x 3-pin, 2xType 2). No tax implications. We could self declare usage at end of tax year but employer has provided no direction to do so.
Go figure.
We have free charging at work (2x 3-pin, 2xType 2). No tax implications. We could self declare usage at end of tax year but employer has provided no direction to do so.
Go figure.
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