Tesla model 3 - realistic times for availability in UK
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I'm starting to wonder if I'm going to pull the plug on my reservation...
I've had little to no contact from Tesla themselves, when I've emailed with a query I've just got a generic email back which was nothing to do with my question.
When I signed up I figured my budget would just about stretch to the $35k dollar version (Read £35k post-Brexit if I'm lucky) It doesn't seem like there's any plan for this to come out any time soon. It's all very well them trying to sell me a used Model S for £50k but if I could afford £50k why would I be looking at a £35k car? I've got no idea what the monthly repayments will be and if I can afford them (OK, I can get an idea from a similar priced car from an alternative manufacturer)
Elon Musk seems to be self imploding at the moment which doesn't fill me with too much confidence and from most accounts the build quality is really bad.
I'm wondering if I'm going to lose my £1000 as they'll fold!
Anyone else thinking the same or are you all still believers?
I've had little to no contact from Tesla themselves, when I've emailed with a query I've just got a generic email back which was nothing to do with my question.
When I signed up I figured my budget would just about stretch to the $35k dollar version (Read £35k post-Brexit if I'm lucky) It doesn't seem like there's any plan for this to come out any time soon. It's all very well them trying to sell me a used Model S for £50k but if I could afford £50k why would I be looking at a £35k car? I've got no idea what the monthly repayments will be and if I can afford them (OK, I can get an idea from a similar priced car from an alternative manufacturer)
Elon Musk seems to be self imploding at the moment which doesn't fill me with too much confidence and from most accounts the build quality is really bad.
I'm wondering if I'm going to lose my £1000 as they'll fold!
Anyone else thinking the same or are you all still believers?
Paul 8v said:
I'm starting to wonder if I'm going to pull the plug on my reservation...
I've had little to no contact from Tesla themselves, when I've emailed with a query I've just got a generic email back which was nothing to do with my question.
When I signed up I figured my budget would just about stretch to the $35k dollar version (Read £35k post-Brexit if I'm lucky) It doesn't seem like there's any plan for this to come out any time soon. It's all very well them trying to sell me a used Model S for £50k but if I could afford £50k why would I be looking at a £35k car? I've got no idea what the monthly repayments will be and if I can afford them (OK, I can get an idea from a similar priced car from an alternative manufacturer)
Elon Musk seems to be self imploding at the moment which doesn't fill me with too much confidence and from most accounts the build quality is really bad.
I'm wondering if I'm going to lose my £1000 as they'll fold!
Anyone else thinking the same or are you all still believers?
They're not going to fold any time soon, widely expected to make a operating profit of some description this quarter. I've had little to no contact from Tesla themselves, when I've emailed with a query I've just got a generic email back which was nothing to do with my question.
When I signed up I figured my budget would just about stretch to the $35k dollar version (Read £35k post-Brexit if I'm lucky) It doesn't seem like there's any plan for this to come out any time soon. It's all very well them trying to sell me a used Model S for £50k but if I could afford £50k why would I be looking at a £35k car? I've got no idea what the monthly repayments will be and if I can afford them (OK, I can get an idea from a similar priced car from an alternative manufacturer)
Elon Musk seems to be self imploding at the moment which doesn't fill me with too much confidence and from most accounts the build quality is really bad.
I'm wondering if I'm going to lose my £1000 as they'll fold!
Anyone else thinking the same or are you all still believers?
Whether you'll see you 35k M3 any time soon, the answer really is very unlikely. They'll want to sweat the premium end of the range as long as they can before they let the base models in - if you want a 35k EV then a Hyundai Kona is probably the place to go although without the same curb appeal.
Heres Johnny said:
They're not going to fold any time soon, widely expected to make a operating profit of some description this quarter.
Whether you'll see you 35k M3 any time soon, the answer really is very unlikely. They'll want to sweat the premium end of the range as long as they can before they let the base models in - if you want a 35k EV then a Hyundai Kona is probably the place to go although without the same curb appeal.
I think you're right, I can't see it coming any time soon, which is a bit of a shame :-/Whether you'll see you 35k M3 any time soon, the answer really is very unlikely. They'll want to sweat the premium end of the range as long as they can before they let the base models in - if you want a 35k EV then a Hyundai Kona is probably the place to go although without the same curb appeal.
kurt535 said:
My son was saying the mk2 Model 3 was already in the offing? Range far higher etc?? Was he right?
No.Tesla Roadster 2.0 and Tesla Semi(truck) both appear to be using 'next gen' battery tech. The range/peformance of both are double what the current battery packs can deliver. However both are only prototypes, and years away from mass production.
Just seen on another thread that the govt is cutting the grant to £3500 next month.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/reformed-plug-i...
This, is another nail in the coffin for me on the Model 3, along with the recent price rises in the US means the car I am likely to want will be far to expensive now.
I might hang in with my deposit to get a test drive, but 95% sure I will cancel now.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/reformed-plug-i...
This, is another nail in the coffin for me on the Model 3, along with the recent price rises in the US means the car I am likely to want will be far to expensive now.
I might hang in with my deposit to get a test drive, but 95% sure I will cancel now.
gangzoom said:
kurt535 said:
My son was saying the mk2 Model 3 was already in the offing? Range far higher etc?? Was he right?
No.Tesla Roadster 2.0 and Tesla Semi(truck) both appear to be using 'next gen' battery tech. The range/peformance of both are double what the current battery packs can deliver. However both are only prototypes, and years away from mass production.
https://electrek.co/2018/08/14/tesla-model-3-base-...
Depends what you understand "..in the offing" to mean. If you think it means "in advanced planning and on the market within 3-6 months", then its a yes. Of course saying what Musk has said isn't going to help current M3 sales - "buy a car that will be on old techn tomorrow,"
garreth64 said:
Just seen on another thread that the govt is cutting the grant to £3500 next month.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/reformed-plug-i...
This, is another nail in the coffin for me on the Model 3, along with the recent price rises in the US means the car I am likely to want will be far to expensive now.
I might hang in with my deposit to get a test drive, but 95% sure I will cancel now.
they've knocked a grand off the grant... surely that isn't enough to tip it?https://www.gov.uk/government/news/reformed-plug-i...
This, is another nail in the coffin for me on the Model 3, along with the recent price rises in the US means the car I am likely to want will be far to expensive now.
I might hang in with my deposit to get a test drive, but 95% sure I will cancel now.
PixelpeepS3 said:
they've knocked a grand off the grant... surely that isn't enough to tip it?
The Tesla Owners group had people beating their chests saying the £1k grant was going to derail the whole EV revolution. When it was introduced you had a choice of sub 100 mile range EV or paying 60k+ for a Tesla, You can now buy a 200+ mile car for low 30k from Hyundai etcIt's a UK thing, it's only a grand, I'm sure some people will cancel their ev or not but because of it but as said ev's are a much different proposition to when it was introduced.
Your lucky to get it we don't get anything here..
As for model 3 upgrade/mk2 , nope. That's not even how Tesla works. The short range will have a different battery pack off course..
There is the model y getting shown in March but that's a long way off sale, probably built on model 3 platform
Your lucky to get it we don't get anything here..
As for model 3 upgrade/mk2 , nope. That's not even how Tesla works. The short range will have a different battery pack off course..
There is the model y getting shown in March but that's a long way off sale, probably built on model 3 platform
What do you mean that’s not how Tesla work? They’re stuck with the MS and MX because the form factor for the newer battery is bigger and they can’t retro fit. The 3 was designed for the larger form factor.
Autopilot tech changed on owners over night, as did the launch of the 100 battery. A change often happens late into the year and the M3 is a year old design, that’s longer than th3 MX had AP1 hardware as an example of change.
Autopilot tech changed on owners over night, as did the launch of the 100 battery. A change often happens late into the year and the M3 is a year old design, that’s longer than th3 MX had AP1 hardware as an example of change.
PixelpeepS3 said:
they've knocked a grand off the grant... surely that isn't enough to tip it?
It's not just the grant. As I mentioned in my post, prices have gone up as well. The white pearl paint has gone up from $1000 to $2000, and the red is now $2500. AWD was $4000 and is now $6000. The premium white interior is £1500 extra over the black, which I wasn't expecting as it is the same price on the Model S. The spec I want prices up at $60k on the US site, and that is without Autopilot. That is going to be £50k+ which is too much for me. Yes, I could get a cheaper, lower spec, but feel that would be a downgrade from my current car, I'll wait for a test drive and see if it blows me away before I cancel though.
RobDickinson said:
By that I mean Tesla iterate their design etc rather than have a 2018 model etc like everyone else. As soon as they have a better new part they just use it.
They'll refresh the s sometime to use new batteries.
Are you the official Tesla spokesperson?They'll refresh the s sometime to use new batteries.
I don’t think you’ve got the first clue tbh.
yonex said:
I don’t think you’ve got the first clue tbh.
Again showing your ignorance.. 2170 cells to be used from 2021. https://electrek.co/2018/07/30/tesla-model-s-x-int...
As for model 3 deliveries..
US tax rebate end has been triggered, so end of 2018 is the end of the 7500 usd rebate.
That falls to 50 percent first half next year then 25 percent for the last half. Regardless of volumes sold.
So I assume they'll try and sell as many in USA next year to June at least before exporting any.
US tax rebate end has been triggered, so end of 2018 is the end of the 7500 usd rebate.
That falls to 50 percent first half next year then 25 percent for the last half. Regardless of volumes sold.
So I assume they'll try and sell as many in USA next year to June at least before exporting any.
Popped into a London showroom on the way back from work this evening. Got chatting to one of the chaps in there about the Model 3 and UK dates. He said...
1. There's three Model 3s in the UK at the moment in storage (presumably for other events similar to Goodwood). Didn't know whether they were LHD or RHD - but assumed LHD.
2. They're hoping to get one in the showroom by the end of the year.
3. For existing UK reservation holders, estimated delivery towards the end of Q1 2019. He said if you put down a deposit today, you're probably looking at end of 2019.
No idea how accurate the above is, but chap seemed to know his onions.
1. There's three Model 3s in the UK at the moment in storage (presumably for other events similar to Goodwood). Didn't know whether they were LHD or RHD - but assumed LHD.
2. They're hoping to get one in the showroom by the end of the year.
3. For existing UK reservation holders, estimated delivery towards the end of Q1 2019. He said if you put down a deposit today, you're probably looking at end of 2019.
No idea how accurate the above is, but chap seemed to know his onions.
They've been showing off the 3 here and Australia too, so far they are all USA spec lhd. Afik no one had seen a rhd. Even those here in nz driven round and used at winter proving ground last year.
I honestly can't see non conusa sales before June given the federal tax rebate rules. Though they may be changing...
I honestly can't see non conusa sales before June given the federal tax rebate rules. Though they may be changing...
I wouldn’t listen too much to what the sales people at the showrooms say.
When I was last in looking to replace my current model S I asked about the free supercharging being scrapped no one knew about it. I had to show them the email on my phone.
Quite often they seem to be last to know about changes.
Also they love to bulls
t. Apparently at 0 degrees in the rain a model X will do 350 miles on the motorway. I even gave the guy fair warning I was a current owner.
When I was last in looking to replace my current model S I asked about the free supercharging being scrapped no one knew about it. I had to show them the email on my phone.
Quite often they seem to be last to know about changes.
Also they love to bulls
t. Apparently at 0 degrees in the rain a model X will do 350 miles on the motorway. I even gave the guy fair warning I was a current owner. Gassing Station | EV and Alternative Fuels | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff