Anyone been for a test drive in a Jaguar i-Pace yet?

Anyone been for a test drive in a Jaguar i-Pace yet?

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RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Only really 2 questions need answering

Whats the cruising efficiency, this will probably need to be tested after a software update fix thats coming (apparently)
And how will the pack last.

simo1863

1,868 posts

129 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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38 on the way home (35 mile mix of A roads and M6 in pouring rain, wind and stop start traffic).

I'll take a picture in the morning.

In terms of the man maths say 40kw is per 100 miles and it has a 90kw battery, you're looking at 250 miles for a full charge!? Or am I missing something.

Whilst I've driven a lot of the EVs available I've never actually considered the efficiency before to be honest, just what it goes like, looks like and how practical it is for wife, baby, dogs, horses etc.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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More like 220 miles tops should get more than that.

Imo there's an efficiency problem, Tesla had it with the first dual motor s and fixed it.

Should be 150-200wh km

oop north

1,596 posts

129 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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simo1863 said:
In terms of the man maths say 40kw is per 100 miles and it has a 90kw battery, you're looking at 250 miles for a full charge!? Or am I missing something.
You never get to use the full capacity of the battery - there’s a safety margin at top and bottom, so less than 90 available

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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oop north said:
You never get to use the full capacity of the battery - there’s a safety margin at top and bottom, so less than 90 available
The safety margin should be extra to the stated usable capacity. It is with pretty much every other comparable full ev

granada203028

1,483 posts

198 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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simo1863 said:
Just been given one by JLR for a few weeks (work in corporate fleet sector):



Yeah bad parking thread I know.....

It's nice, a bit like a smaller, better looking Model X with a nicer interior.

Guy that dropped it off was very keen to tell me it has a 500mm wade depth...... I have no plans to test this.

Anyone want to know anything specific?
If you come to it randomly with it cold and not on charge or plugged in, if you turn the heater on full is hot instantly or do you have wait for it to heat some water like my Leaf does?

RacerMike

4,209 posts

212 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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simo1863 said:
38 on the way home (35 mile mix of A roads and M6 in pouring rain, wind and stop start traffic).

I'll take a picture in the morning.

In terms of the man maths say 40kw is per 100 miles and it has a 90kw battery, you're looking at 250 miles for a full charge!? Or am I missing something.

Whilst I've driven a lot of the EVs available I've never actually considered the efficiency before to be honest, just what it goes like, looks like and how practical it is for wife, baby, dogs, horses etc.
Actual battery useable capacity is reported to be 84.7kWh, so you should easily get 220 miles at that consumption, which seems pretty reasonable given the conditions.

Your last paragraph is a point I made. I don’t think the avaerage owner really cares about the consumption number. If the range is ok, and the car is nice to drive it does what they need. Only a really specific group of people on the internet (potentially ones who have Teslas and have a slightly odd obsession with rubbishing other EVs) care that much about the consumption regardless of range.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Teslas (S and x anyhow) have pretty poor efficiency, which is directly related to range....
The kona beats the teslas (thought he 3 might be similar).

If it cant match the X its pretty bad because its smaller and lighter


simo1863

1,868 posts

129 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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So using the adaptive cruise for most of my commute didn't really yield better results.

Probably the type of journey my commute is too though as I let one of my team take it into the city centre first thing and did much better than I've seen.

Will test heater temp speeds this aft when it's cooled down.

essayer

9,077 posts

195 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Not impressed with that dashboard display, looks pretty basic. How does it look in non-nav mode?

I'm guessing you do mostly dc/motorway at 70mph-ish?

It's probably OK to do 45kWh/100mi when you can charge at home and pay ~£6 to do 200 miles, maybe people will complain if the same charge costs £30 (EH, Instavolt, etc) and costs 15p/mile. That's probably equivalent to petrol

TWPC

842 posts

162 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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simo1863 said:
Just been given one by JLR for a few weeks (work in corporate fleet sector):



Yeah bad parking thread I know.....

It's nice, a bit like a smaller, better looking Model X with a nicer interior.

Guy that dropped it off was very keen to tell me it has a 500mm wade depth...... I have no plans to test this.

Anyone want to know anything specific?
Simo,
How much space is there in the rear seats, specifically in terms of width? Could three teenagers sit there comfortably for over an hour?
What sort of suspension does yours have? If bog standard steel springs, how's the ride?

TWPC

842 posts

162 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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If anyone else can answer my questions above on rear seat space and the ride on steel springs, I'd appreciate it.

RacerMike

4,209 posts

212 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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essayer said:
Not impressed with that dashboard display, looks pretty basic. How does it look in non-nav mode?

I'm guessing you do mostly dc/motorway at 70mph-ish?

It's probably OK to do 45kWh/100mi when you can charge at home and pay ~£6 to do 200 miles, maybe people will complain if the same charge costs £30 (EH, Instavolt, etc) and costs 15p/mile. That's probably equivalent to petrol
There's a few different configs. The default is the below one with a central power gauge, with two configurable screens either side.


Smiljan

10,847 posts

198 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Is the infotainment system really as laggy and difficult to use as all the reviewers are saying?

Also, where’s the charge port and can you lock in the cable when connected?

simo1863

1,868 posts

129 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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TWPC said:
Simo,
How much space is there in the rear seats, specifically in terms of width? Could three teenagers sit there comfortably for over an hour?
What sort of suspension does yours have? If bog standard steel springs, how's the ride?
It's pretty big inside, even in the back. I'd certainly have no guilty feelings throwing three teenagers in there for an hour or more. Sure you could find out online but want me to measure it?

Ride is crashy/poor to be honest but suspect that's because this one has bigger wheels. I've also come into this from a Volvo V90 which is way more bargy. In the EV stakes, it's not a million miles away from an X or S with bigger wheels.

Not sure exactly what spec it is (demos usually come with a spec sheet but this one doesn't), I've asked and will put it on here when I get it.

It says SE on it and then has a few bits that I think are extras (wheels, pan roof etc).

Will change the screen settings and take a picture when I pop out for lunch, and also check out the central heating!!

simo1863

1,868 posts

129 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Smiljan said:
Is the infotainment system really as laggy and difficult to use as all the reviewers are saying?

Also, where’s the charge port and can you lock in the cable when connected?
It has the new two touchscreen system that JLR use (first came across it in a Velar last year) is a lot better than the older one in the wife' Evoque, that drives me bonkers.

It's liveable with, in fact would have been bleeding edge a few years ago, but not as silky smooth as the most recent Germanic stuff, or indeed the aforementioned V90 I've just come out of (Spotify app in that is brilliant).

If you bought one, and were used to better, you'd notice it for a few days and then get used to it I imagine, I'm just a bit harder to please because I don't drive a car for longer than a week or two.

Should also probably mention that because it's a demo I can't use all of the online or app functionality so can't really answer anything about that.

EDIT: Charge port is front passenger side, above and behind the wheel arch and yes it locks when you plug it in and walk away.

Smiljan

10,847 posts

198 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Thanks simo beer

oop north

1,596 posts

129 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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simo1863 said:
Ride is crashy/poor to be honest but suspect that's because this one has bigger wheels. I've also come into this from a Volvo V90 which is way more bargy. In the EV stakes, it's not a million miles away from an X or S with bigger wheels.

Not sure exactly what spec it is (demos usually come with a spec sheet but this one doesn't), I've asked and will put it on here when I get it.
Looks SE to me - so the wheels are the standard size 20 inchers. When I had a drive I didn’t really like the jittery ride

The Autocar account of the drive from Edinburgh to Coventry (not sure it was Coventry now) from their site earlier this week said that the road noise is lowest with 22 inch wheels (I think those are the only tyres with noise suppression foam in) and air suspension (no idea if air suspension makes quieter at all or if so by how much). If you go for 22 inch wheels the configurator adds in air suspension

mids

1,505 posts

259 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Smiljan said:
Is the infotainment system really as laggy and difficult to use as all the reviewers are saying?
Seems a common theme and a shame that android auto isn't available.

RacerMike

4,209 posts

212 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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mids said:
Seems a common theme and a shame that android auto isn't available.
It is on the latest software.