0 - 60 performance - hybrid cars

0 - 60 performance - hybrid cars

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mawallace

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184 posts

74 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Is there somewhere where I can see the 0 - 60 of a hybrid car when running on fuel and when running on electric. Looking at most manufacter's websites they just show one 0 - 60 figure - how is this calculated?

stevieturbo

17,268 posts

248 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Why on earth would it matter when you have no control over what is powering the vehicle ?

GreenV8S

30,208 posts

285 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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I would expect the manufacturer's claimed 0-60 figure to be the best the vehicle is capable of under ideal conditions. Obviously that will be a single figure because there is only one 'best'.

budgie smuggler

5,391 posts

160 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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stevieturbo said:
Why on earth would it matter when you have no control over what is powering the vehicle ?
On some you can choose which drivetrain is used, the golf GTE for example

stevieturbo

17,268 posts

248 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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budgie smuggler said:
On some you can choose which drivetrain is used, the golf GTE for example
So you can totally override or select both at the same time for full manual control ?

Scrump

22,052 posts

159 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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My hybrid had selectable modes but no matter what mode was selected if the throttle pedal was pushed all the way to the floor the car would use both petrol and electric power together.
It was a sort of kick down function but with this it would be meaningless to try and get 0-60 figures for just one of the power sources.

hantsxlg

862 posts

233 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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In my 530e in 'max edrive 'mode you could easily hold the throttle at the point to get max electric power without triggering the petrol engine to start. I guess 0-60 Is around 10seconds.... i

oop north

1,596 posts

129 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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I thought the range on the new (not quite launched) BMW X5 phev of 50 miles official (so 30+ real world?) looked good. But that would restrict you to only a little over 100bhp which isn’t going to be swift. Wonder how slow it will feel on leccy only?

granada203028

1,483 posts

198 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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0 - 60 is an out dated method of comparing performance it is neither what your feel or perceive, but was easy to measure with a stop watch and speedo.

Shove in the back or g force is what you feel and this can be measured by using inertial equipment such apps on phones.

Distance covered is what you observe particularly in competitive situations like drag racing against a opponent, the one who has covered the most distance is out in front!

Cars with good initial acceleration fair best such as old school automatics with a torque converter. My Leaf for example has constant acceleration up to about 30 mph, conditioned by my experience of older automatic cars the initial getaway feels sluggish, but sudden application of power at 30mph feels really good.




CAPP0

19,596 posts

204 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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I've just put a deposit on a Touareg Hybrid. You can select "e-mode' and it will run (for a few miles) on battery only, certainly tested by us up to c. 40mph, but Im pretty sure that if you booted it as hard as you'd need to if you were hunting 0-60 times, the petrol engine would kick in.

Mine has the V6 TFSi engine from the S4 (and probably other warm VAG models) and does 0-60 in, depending on which review you read, around 6.2s.

Chris-S

282 posts

89 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Same deal with the MB C350e. You can’t force it to stay in electric mode if you want to press on, nor can you stop it using electric power if the ICE is running. You can give it suggestions, as it were, but the whole idea is that it’s easy to use without you having to fuss with it.

The closest you can get to doing an electric power only speed run would be to put it in E mode and make sure you don’t press the pedal beyond the haptic “end stop” it creates when in that mode.

It’ll do motorway speeds on battery only, and as it has the auto box, is reasonably brisk on battery power alone, considering the weight. Remarkable what 80 bhp and a chunk of torque can deliver really.

What I have noticed though, when doing a foot to the floor run, it feels pretty brisk up to about 70, then it starts to hit a wall. I’m pretty certain that this is where the electric motor starts to lose torque so you have to rely on the ICE.

I’d love to see torque curves for the combined hybrid powertrain but they just don’t seem to be available. The ICE is just a flat line from 1200 rpm until it almost hits the red line - the wonders of modern turbo motors I suppose.

The quoted power figures aren’t the simple sum of ICE + electric, it’s a bit less, which reinforces the thought that the electric motor suffers from torque drop off before the ICE hits peak power.