VW ID

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dmsims

6,534 posts

268 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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Witchfinder said:
Like I said, I remain to be convinced. The car in the video doesn't look like it has a Passat-sized luggage compartment. I'll happily be proven wrong though.

My issue is that I need something roughly S-Max or (my current car) V90 sized. That leaves me with the Model-S or Model-X, or the I-Pace at a pinch, none of which is under £65,000. Or the E-NV200 which has a comically poor range and a terrifying van chassis (3 NCAP stars).

If they can make something like the Golf R Estate, but electric, I'll snatch their hand off.
The ID uses a platform which VW have already said will spawn other cars

SUV and Estate ?

RobDickinson

Original Poster:

31,343 posts

255 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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40 other models or something. everything from this up and across 103 different brands. or something.

No idea what the battery pack can scale up to but I guess ~100kwh?

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

253 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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dmsims said:
The ID uses a platform which VW have already said will spawn other cars
Eventually. When they've squeezed as much life as possible out of their filthy diesel engines, and the pain of the legislative thumbscrews becomes unbearable.

inabox

291 posts

192 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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I love my e-golf, if this improves on it in any way, it'll be fantastic

kambites

67,583 posts

222 months

Tuesday 25th December 2018
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IMO the remarkable claim there is of price parity with the Golf. I'm guessing they mean a fairly highly specced Golf but still, that presumably means you'll get able to get one of these things for the right side of £25k which will undercut the Leaf and Kona but a significant margin.

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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Above someone noted the ‘poor turning circle’ actually it’s 1.3m less than a gold, only slightly more than a fiat 500. In short, the I.D. has an impressive turning circle. Less that a polo and equally to a city car.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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rwd and skinny tyres = tight turning circle! My i3 is amazing in this respect, it's not quite a london taxi, but it's not that far off!

(London Taxi = 8m, i3 = 9m)

tyrrell

1,670 posts

209 months

Sunday 30th December 2018
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I would imagine a peasant spec entry level VW ID in the Uk will start around £32k if you want the top of the range they will be £45k all day long. I need to pop down to my local VW retailer and get in the que for one.

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

253 months

Sunday 30th December 2018
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That doesn't really line up with what VW has said, which is that it'll be about the same price as a diesel Golf. That should mean it starts around 25k. I'd expect it to go up to around 35k for the top end version.

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Sunday 30th December 2018
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tyrrell said:
I would imagine a peasant spec entry level VW ID in the Uk will start around £32k if you want the top of the range they will be £45k all day long. I need to pop down to my local VW retailer and get in the que for one.
Your figures are way too high. It must come in at 23k. Take into account the high spec due to semi autonomous systems as std. radar cruise, fancy headlights, fancy cameras and it might be as high as 25k . Top specs would be comparable to a 170hp GTD with a good spec which is about 27k before extra so up to 32k loaded.

It’s not going to be a niche product along the lines if golf-e. It’s a mass market 250k per annum car. And it must be reasonably priced to gain mass appeal.

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

253 months

Sunday 30th December 2018
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Burwood said:
Your figures are way too high. It must come in at 23k.
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It’s a mass market 250k per annum car. And it must be reasonably priced to gain mass appeal.
The press reports seem to suggest it'll start at around £27k (after incentives). Personally I think this is a bit on the high side for something with a 200 mile range, especially if the rest of the specification is stingy and it usually is on Volkswagens).

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Sunday 30th December 2018
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No one knows for sure. It may well be 27k net rising to early 30s. VW have been clear that price of equivalent diesel with the spec this car coms with. We know it must have a higher spec because of what it is. Cameras to read signs and what’s going on, radar cruise, pre heater. So 27k sounds plausible. I’ve decided it’s what I want. It can offset a v8 suv

poing

8,743 posts

201 months

Monday 31st December 2018
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Burwood said:
tyrrell said:
I would imagine a peasant spec entry level VW ID in the Uk will start around £32k if you want the top of the range they will be £45k all day long. I need to pop down to my local VW retailer and get in the que for one.
Your figures are way too high. It must come in at 23k. Take into account the high spec due to semi autonomous systems as std. radar cruise, fancy headlights, fancy cameras and it might be as high as 25k . Top specs would be comparable to a 170hp GTD with a good spec which is about 27k before extra so up to 32k loaded.

It’s not going to be a niche product along the lines if golf-e. It’s a mass market 250k per annum car. And it must be reasonably priced to gain mass appeal.
I suspect his figures are a lot closer to the truth than we would like.

If it's under £25k with a decent spec it will be my next car. Sadly to get a decent spec I imagine it will be much closer to £30k.

Although VW are going to have to do a lot of work on the dealers first. My local one thinks electricity is some futuristic new fangled device that will never take off. It's actually impossible to buy an electric car from them.

tyrrell

1,670 posts

209 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Well a current 1.6 tdi 115bhp gt 5 door starts at just under £26k with some decent kit on its £32k so those thinking that in two years time a Golf ID at £23k are in for a massive shock at the dealers eek

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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tyrrell said:
Well a current 1.6 tdi 115bhp gt 5 door starts at just under £26k with some decent kit on its £32k so those thinking that in two years time a Golf ID at £23k are in for a massive shock at the dealers eek
It’s 21,800 in base trim with manual. Not sure how that’s 26k spec’d. It’s academic. journalists here are saying as low as 23k and others 27.5k. Who knows if that’s net of grant, I suspect it is.
If it starts at 30k it just won’t sell. Simple. They need to make them affordable. We will know in 9 months.

I’m more interested in how good it is than the price.

kambites

67,583 posts

222 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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One has to assume that VW are comparing it to a fairly well specced auto, so I'd imagine we're looking at an entry price of something like £24-27k.

sisu

2,584 posts

174 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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inabox said:
I love my e-golf, if this improves on it in any way, it'll be fantastic
I have a 2018 Golf GTE as our family appliance, I was under the belief that no engine equals no bills.


I got the extended warranty and we are now in the 3rd year, 36k miles.

So the first service is very routine, 9k miles or a year. You are tied to the VW centre as the gearbox oil is the only thing they change.
It is filled under pressure so you need to have the VW Centre do it. 2nd year, same thing. Now we are in the extended fluid change and we are getting a bill for €1000, €36/litre specific oil.
The car is operating perfectly normal.
I have changed the gearbox oil on my Q7 no problem, 8 litres of automatic gearbox oil, the €99 OBD2 app telling me when it was 35-45 deg C, but it is something you can do yourself or a local garage.

The interesting aspect with the eGolf is that this 'extended' oil change is now part in parcel with any issues with the car. Get this wrong and the car doesn't work. Do we eat this like a cam belt service or a chocolate water pump?