Just picked up my I Pace
Discussion
Triumph Trollomite said:
ds666 said:
Why does every single thread in the EV section turn into a " Tesla is best , and if you buy something else you are idiots " .
It gets a bit tedious .
I dont think that's the case. Here, I gratefully followed the ipace updates as was in the market until I discovered the new pricing issues for ionity and then discovered the potential issues with the public charge networkIt gets a bit tedious .
It wasnt the model3 being better but was the charging network being better which made me feel that was the better choice for now. In 3 years I'm sure the situation for charging will be better but even the model3 without the free access pays 15 quid a charge, that's a no brainer, not to say the 3 is better.
Having been in the S previously it put me off tesla as it rattled more than a Ford a class and was that nice. The years moved on and whilst the 3 is not better made, its difficult to justify quite how the others get to near 20k more for similar spec
Personally though I think the ipace is epic and a real great show of what we can achieve
Not a Tesla fanboy and went with it as decided as an overall package it offered more for me than the iPace for my requirements. I had genuine concerns about build quality etc. before ours turned up based on forum comments but have been pleasantly surprised. No it's not as good as a BMW/Audi/Mercedes but isn't far behind, better than any Model S I've been in and very comparable with the Jaguar XF I had for a weekend test drive a couple of years back.
I will add though that I was looking for a high performance car as an alternative to an M4/RS5/C63 so it ticked all of the boxes for me. If you're looking for a comfortable and refined long distance cruiser then I'd expect your take to be different. It'll happily do it but not it's sweetspot IME when compared to the bigger SUV style EV's (other than absolute range and charging flexibility).
Comes into it's own with the kind of A/B road driving we do regularly though and is the type of car you can drive just to enjoy the experience, which isn't the feeling I got from the iPace despite it being a great car.
Polestar 2 is a great EV in and around this price point. Full android. Twin motor 400+Bhp and very nice looking styling.
Personally, I'm waiting for the single motor version of this car under the Volvo brand, and if rumour is correct, will undercut the Tesla M3 price and will be full android OS.
As a side note, depending on US trade deal post Brexit - we could potentially lose the US car import tarrif, saving 10% on the price of a Tesla.
Personally, I'm waiting for the single motor version of this car under the Volvo brand, and if rumour is correct, will undercut the Tesla M3 price and will be full android OS.
As a side note, depending on US trade deal post Brexit - we could potentially lose the US car import tarrif, saving 10% on the price of a Tesla.
EddieSteadyGo said:
You don't really need to use the inbuilt Jaguar infotainment - just use Android Auto (or CarPlay). Works very nicely.
... when it decides to connect. I can get almost half way to work sometimes before the infotainment in the i pace has booted up, then it’s 50/50 if car play works
rjg48 said:
ds666 said:
Why does every single thread in the EV section turn into a " Tesla is best , and if you buy something else you are idiots " .
It gets a bit tedious .
You noticed too.It gets a bit tedious .
SWoll said:
My wife commented earlier today on just how good the heating in the Tesla is funnily enough, seems to warm up quicker than any previous car from stone cold. Sadly some people get very silly about range and efficiency with EV's so refuse to use it even at this time of year. 
The i3 heating on the other hand is bloody awful. Takes an age to get going and even then is only about half as effective as the Tesla system.
Tesla does not have a heat exchanger so will heat up instantly. I'd assume your i3 did so it's like boiling a kettle of water first. Both are still way faster than letting an engine heat up of course!The i3 heating on the other hand is bloody awful. Takes an age to get going and even then is only about half as effective as the Tesla system.
rjg48 said:
You noticed too.
Have a look back, I dont think at any point it turned to a Tesla is better thread.My personal approach was the ipace is the better car but based on my commute and euro trips the tesla charge network is what swayed my decision.
Rob, if you want to PM me a referral code I would be happy to provide and we both get 1000 miles free.
I'm excited about joining the BEV fold regardless of the car and theres no retraction from myself for the brilliant ipace.
Anyway, to get it back on track.... an update...
I’m now at 7,500 miles, still think the cars great to drive.
Love the size of it, range is a bit disappointing, it’s 200 miles basically.
Rear visibility is a bit compromised and the lack of rear wiper a shame
The premium textile is still looking great and it’s lovely to sit on.
Infotainment is poor, but it’s been covered extensively before.
The lag on the rear view camera is frustrating, I’ve bumped into a tree because of it.
No issues to report and it’s booked in for 4 software updates at the dealer on 4th February which should apparently help the range.
I’m now at 7,500 miles, still think the cars great to drive.
Love the size of it, range is a bit disappointing, it’s 200 miles basically.
Rear visibility is a bit compromised and the lack of rear wiper a shame
The premium textile is still looking great and it’s lovely to sit on.
Infotainment is poor, but it’s been covered extensively before.
The lag on the rear view camera is frustrating, I’ve bumped into a tree because of it.
No issues to report and it’s booked in for 4 software updates at the dealer on 4th February which should apparently help the range.
Just a quick thought from me.
Had Ipace HSE on demo for a day. Really liked it, liked the styling and I really want to support UK Jaguar. It was fast enough, the auto pilot feature was far from consistent. It handled well for the weight.
BUT, I couldn't get a deal anywhere near Model 3P. So I'm trying to complete a Business Contract currently.
So personally, both the cost Contract and fact 0% BIK has pushed me down this route. I would of preferred a S350 AMG LWB Executive I could of got at same terms but BIK would be hideous.
The Ipace is a great great car. I hope I enjoy the Model 3 though.
Had Ipace HSE on demo for a day. Really liked it, liked the styling and I really want to support UK Jaguar. It was fast enough, the auto pilot feature was far from consistent. It handled well for the weight.
BUT, I couldn't get a deal anywhere near Model 3P. So I'm trying to complete a Business Contract currently.
So personally, both the cost Contract and fact 0% BIK has pushed me down this route. I would of preferred a S350 AMG LWB Executive I could of got at same terms but BIK would be hideous.
The Ipace is a great great car. I hope I enjoy the Model 3 though.
Triumph Trollomite said:
200 miles in this weather though isnt bad is it?
How often do you drive and what kind of drive?
It’s not bad, I guess just after my previous BEV I was expecting better as the quoted range was higher, but in fact it’s 45 miles worse How often do you drive and what kind of drive?
I’ve got a couple of semi regular trips, maybe 4 or 5 times a year, to relatives which are 90 miles each way so with a bit of driving around at their end it’s just on the edge whereas in previous car I was ok.
Perhaps just an unlucky circumstance
Jasper3.0 said:
The H264 update makes a difference to the range. I was getting on a run over Christmas 200+ post H264.
The 19C update has made a difference to the infotainment speed.
That’s very encouraging, I presume these are the dealer updates mine is in for.The 19C update has made a difference to the infotainment speed.
Shame they don’t do these one OTA
jjwilde said:
SWoll said:
My wife commented earlier today on just how good the heating in the Tesla is funnily enough, seems to warm up quicker than any previous car from stone cold. Sadly some people get very silly about range and efficiency with EV's so refuse to use it even at this time of year.
The i3 heating on the other hand is bloody awful. Takes an age to get going and even then is only about half as effective as the Tesla system.
Tesla does not have a heat exchanger so will heat up instantly. I'd assume your i3 did so it's like boiling a kettle of water first. Both are still way faster than letting an engine heat up of course!The i3 heating on the other hand is bloody awful. Takes an age to get going and even then is only about half as effective as the Tesla system.
I can't yet compare it against a Model 3, but I don't find the heating in the i3 to be notably good or bad. On a very cold day it can be helpful to either stay in Comfort mode or to just deactivate Eco-Pro climate, but most of the time that isn't necessary and it's adequate in Eco-Pro, IME. Also, I hardly ever get in it without it having been pre-heated anyway, so there isn't, IME, a need to wait for it to get going as the cabin is already warm.
bertie said:
Jasper3.0 said:
The H264 update makes a difference to the range. I was getting on a run over Christmas 200+ post H264.
The 19C update has made a difference to the infotainment speed.
That’s very encouraging, I presume these are the dealer updates mine is in for.The 19C update has made a difference to the infotainment speed.
Shame they don’t do these one OTA
What’s odd is that my XF has had 19c since early last year and it’s been update OTA a couple of times since. I would have thought that all i Pace would already have it.
REALIST123 said:
bertie said:
Jasper3.0 said:
The H264 update makes a difference to the range. I was getting on a run over Christmas 200+ post H264.
The 19C update has made a difference to the infotainment speed.
That’s very encouraging, I presume these are the dealer updates mine is in for.The 19C update has made a difference to the infotainment speed.
Shame they don’t do these one OTA
What’s odd is that my XF has had 19c since early last year and it’s been update OTA a couple of times since. I would have thought that all i Pace would already have it.
What is 19c and can I tell if I’ve got it?
bertie said:
I have had some OTA updates to the nav system but as I understand it they won’t do core updates OTA
What is 19c and can I tell if I’ve got it?
From the depths of the Jag website I found this...What is 19c and can I tell if I’ve got it?
Jag Website said:
You can check the software version of your InControl Touch Pro system through your Touchscreen by going to ‘Settings’ > ‘All Settings’ > ‘Software update’. The version of the InControl Touch Pro will be displayed as a long string of characters: e.g. ‘S18B_18.25.3-174880’.
The website doesn't mention version 19C, (now there's a surprise!) but since my XE downloaded it a while ago, I'm moderately sure it is only ICT upgrades, unfortunately.Gassing Station | EV and Alternative Fuels | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff