EVEZY Discussion thread

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MaxSo

1,910 posts

96 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Here are screenshots of the apps I've gathered (some are web shortcuts I think). Ive gone with the approach of having all the apps set up and being registered with all networks in case I need an emergency charge somewhere and my phone is almost dead or the signal is rubbish.





anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Don't let you phone go dead as you won't be able to use the car.
I don't think it will work in a no data zone either (starting up that is - it's fine once you are in it)

BrabusMog

20,180 posts

187 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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desolate said:
Don't let you phone go dead as you won't be able to use the car.
I don't think it will work in a no data zone either (starting up that is - it's fine once you are in it)
Surely it is the RFID tech that ApplePay uses? That works in places with no data.

MaxSo

1,910 posts

96 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Haha, true! What have we let ourselves in for..

This website is potentially useful too - for longer trip planning.

https://www.ecalc.ch/evcalc.php
https://ecalc.ch/calcinclude/help/evcalchelp.htm

MaxSo

1,910 posts

96 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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BrabusMog said:
Surely it is the RFID tech that ApplePay uses? That works in places with no data.
I've read that it's Bluetooth to connect to the car, and it supposedly caches necessary data so it *should* work without a cell connection *most of the time*...

No getting around a dead phone battery though. I might actually get a really small power bank to keep with me.

Edited by MaxSo on Monday 8th April 18:05

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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BrabusMog said:
Surely it is the RFID tech that ApplePay uses? That works in places with no data.
It appears that the app checks the status of your booking every time you start the car.

I only noticed as if I park my car in a particular place at home I get a WiFi signal but it's really sketchy and one time I didn't have enough signal to get data
I switched WiFi off and the car opened.

The app connects to the car by bluetooth

MaxSo

1,910 posts

96 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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I'm on iPhone - if I turn on airplane and turn off WiFi and open the app (after having force closed it) it flashes up with a message about no data connection but that I may continue to lock / unlock anyway.

Durzel

12,276 posts

169 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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MaxSo said:
Here are screenshots of the apps I've gathered (some are web shortcuts I think). Ive gone with the approach of having all the apps set up and being registered with all networks in case I need an emergency charge somewhere and my phone is almost dead or the signal is rubbish.




You don't fk about do you hehe

Ryder35

Original Poster:

355 posts

186 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Don't need the polar plus app as there is a polar card in the glovebox.

Really glad to see people signing up. I have had zero problems with the app connecting to the car so far. It is bluetooth you just need to be connected to the internet once a day and it downloads an electronic key for the day. I don't even need to open the app for that to happen, it is open all the time in the background on IOS though (in otherwords I never double tap and close the app on the phone.

MaxSo

1,910 posts

96 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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From what I've gathered most of the issues / annoyances so far have been associated with use of the app on Android. I'm sure they'll be ironed out pretty quickly though.

I'm excited about getting the car again now - I was momentarily a little dismayed with the potential insurance issues and paperwork inconsistencies, but am reassured sufficiently now that all is good. Just need to sort out some excess cover (even if doesn't work, I'd quite like the feeling of peace of mind, even if it's ultimately a false one). Oh, and suppose I'd better register the other half as a named driver.

From the insurance certificate confirming business use in covered, that presumably means both she and I can use it to drive to meetings, to sites, and also to ferry colleagues as and when required?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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MaxSo said:
From the insurance certificate confirming business use in covered, that presumably means both she and I can use it to drive to meetings, to sites, and also to ferry colleagues as and when required?
The certificate I have would cover that.

Durzel

12,276 posts

169 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Can I ask why you need all those apps? Stuff like Pod Point is paid for charging isn't it? Is there any benefit to downloading these apps? Does registering on them give you free (or easy) charging.

Likewise what's the point of having multiple map apps that tell you where chargers are, doesn't Zap Map (for example) do it? What does e.g. Watts Up do that Zap Map doesn't?

MaxSo

1,910 posts

96 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Durzel said:
Can I ask why you need all those apps? Stuff like Pod Point is paid for charging isn't it? Is there any benefit to downloading these apps? Does registering on them give you free (or easy) charging.

Likewise what's the point of having multiple map apps that tell you where chargers are, doesn't Zap Map (for example) do it? What does e.g. Watts Up do that Zap Map doesn't?
I think the simple answer is that I almost certainly don't need them all - was just really a case of trying them to out to see which are worth keeping and which aren't.

The main reason is that whilst the car comes with the card for the Polar network, I may well want to (or need to) charge somewhere that isn't a Polar charger - even though I will then have to pay.

So some of them are required, I believe, if you go to a charge point which isn't Polar, and you then need to activate the charge via the app (most of them you can request an RFID card for I think, but the app means you don't have to have the card). Only one or two charge networks seem to have chargers where you can rock up and just use contactless payment card without a special RFID card or the app.

I think it is nuts that there are so many different networks with different systems and backends and rules etc etc - it won't be so much of a pain once (if) they all go to contactless payment activation instead of apps / RFID card.

Watts Up I think is basically just a simple and easy way of showing only 'rapid' chargers - ie 50kw in the case of the i3. You can get the same info on Zap Map I think, but you'd have to set the filters to only show those ones.

I thought the Polar Plus app could be useful because I'd probably trust the live status of the Polar chargers direct from their app.

Chargemap is for charge points in France - which I may or may not need.

Plugshare looks useful because more people seem to post photos or additional information on the charge point locations, and also update quite frequently if there are issues with that charger.



Edited by MaxSo on Monday 8th April 20:54

Durzel

12,276 posts

169 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Thanks. smile

MaxSo

1,910 posts

96 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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desolate said:
The certificate I have would cover that.
Thanks - yes I've got the certificates now too. Glad this has been cleared up. I suspect they will also tidy up their T&Cs pretty soon.

MaxSo

1,910 posts

96 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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On a less boring note - this is a decent watch for prospective or new i3 drivers / subscribers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMohjMQcmOg

Durzel

12,276 posts

169 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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MaxSo said:
Thanks - yes I've got the certificates now too. Glad this has been cleared up. I suspect they will also tidy up their T&Cs pretty soon.
Did you have to ask for certificates or were they automatically sent to you?

MaxSo

1,910 posts

96 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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I did't ask for them per se, but I was querying the commuting cover and so they seem to have sent them as a way of providing reassurance.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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A quick update I added an additional driver today. Within 2 hours everything was confirmed and it's an extra tenner as a one off payment.

Durzel

12,276 posts

169 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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That also confuses me.. An extra £10 one off cost to cover anyone for a full year. The insurance restrictions aren't even that onerous, and include business use? I don't know why businesses aren't rinsing this service for cheap pool cars. I honestly don't know how they are making any money unless their fleet policy is really competitively priced.

I had a look at some BMW i3 120Ah finance deals last night to compare, even the PCP deal which was from memory circa £350 a month had a ~£6.5k deposit and ~£11k balloon. HP was circa £540 p/m on a 48 month contract. If you're not absolutely sure you would want to own the car at the end of the lease period then it seems to me the freedom of the £399 p/m is unbeatable.

I do note that the T&Cs say that they have a right to modify the monthly cost etc with notice, so part of me does wonder whether we're in the "unsustainable growth" phase of the business. Hopefully it does work out for them because SaaS for cars makes so much sense I don't know why it hasn't been done before. Who wouldn't want to just pay £X a month and have everything taken care of?

Make hay while the sun shines I guess.