Model 3 UK orders.

Model 3 UK orders.

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SlowAndDull

390 posts

80 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Durzel said:
Yeah I could not tell you why Tesla decided to do the opposite of every cruise control system I've ever seen or used and change the speed when activated.

EDIT: Apparently, cruise will use the higher of either your current speed, or whatever the prevailing limit is. If you set the Speed Limit Warning relative offset speed to a large negative number the cruise control should use your current speed as the target.

Edited by Durzel on Monday 29th June 16:49
Thanks, yes I found that somewhere and will set mine the same to eliminate at least that issue.

I think the problem is, as alluded to in the previous post, Tesla are trying to move to the next level of cruise and automation. If using FSD it makes sense to adjust speed on sliproads etc - then problem comes when you just want ‘normal ACC’ and it’s trying to be too clever. I’m hoping it will improve with software updates soon, although the dates of these issues in the Tesla forum suggests not.

Current woe is the Tesla dropping down to 16 or 17A charging current for no reason. That has at least been acknowledged as a bug and is due for a fix in a future update..

jamoor

14,506 posts

215 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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SlowAndDull said:
I’ve had my M3P for a month and, compared to the Volvo system (which is itself nothing to write home about) it is absolutely dire.

On a routine stretch of A road I use the cruise control disengages about 5 times, and drops the cruise speed limit - at one section to 25mph (there were roadworks here until recently). When activating CC it wants to set the speed to the limit it believes is in force, rather than the speed I am driving (* only when driving under the speed limit - eg where the car thinks the limit is 60 but it is actually 30). It also drops the cruise speed when using any slip roads, to 70, or even 50.

Due to regen braking, I have to sit with my foot hovering over the accelerator most of the time, as if cruise control disengages the deceleration is significant (day 2 of driving it I nearly had a tailgating transit in the back of me when CC disengaged on the A14).

I would genuinely have sent this car back if it were a Standard M3; as it is, I can forgive pretty much everything for the incredible acceleration from the P model!
I’ve had very few of these types of problems. Are you using cruise or auto steer?

George Smiley

5,048 posts

81 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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SlowAndDull said:
I’ve had my M3P for a month and, compared to the Volvo system (which is itself nothing to write home about) it is absolutely dire.

On a routine stretch of A road I use the cruise control disengages about 5 times, and drops the cruise speed limit - at one section to 25mph (there were roadworks here until recently). When activating CC it wants to set the speed to the limit it believes is in force, rather than the speed I am driving (* only when driving under the speed limit - eg where the car thinks the limit is 60 but it is actually 30). It also drops the cruise speed when using any slip roads, to 70, or even 50.

Due to regen braking, I have to sit with my foot hovering over the accelerator most of the time, as if cruise control disengages the deceleration is significant (day 2 of driving it I nearly had a tailgating transit in the back of me when CC disengaged on the A14).

I would genuinely have sent this car back if it were a Standard M3; as it is, I can forgive pretty much everything for the incredible acceleration from the P model!
Rtfm and set your cruise speed to relative rather than absolute. Two seconds to do

SlowAndDull

390 posts

80 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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George Smiley said:
Rtfm and set your cruise speed to relative rather than absolute. Two seconds to do
I started with relative, but found the car i
would then set cruise to my offset rather than the speed limit - just as annoying, so a choice of two evils. I think the negative offset sounds like the best answer to the situation. None of these of course resolve the car arbitrarily changing speed when it decides the speed limit is different.

Just using CC; autosteer doesn’t seem to re-engage after a lane change (unless I’m missing something) and goes crazy if changing lanes without indictating so I tend not to use it.

Durzel

12,268 posts

168 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Just been told on the UK owners forum that the negative offset thing doesn't work in the UK because apparently the maximum you can set it to is -6 frown

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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You can use the right wheel dial to change the speed

GG123

6 posts

47 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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SlowAndDull said:
I’ve had my M3P for a month and, compared to the Volvo system (which is itself nothing to write home about) it is absolutely dire.

On a routine stretch of A road I use the cruise control disengages about 5 times, and drops the cruise speed limit - at one section to 25mph (there were roadworks here until recently). When activating CC it wants to set the speed to the limit it believes is in force, rather than the speed I am driving (* only when driving under the speed limit - eg where the car thinks the limit is 60 but it is actually 30). It also drops the cruise speed when using any slip roads, to 70, or even 50.

Due to regen braking, I have to sit with my foot hovering over the accelerator most of the time, as if cruise control disengages the deceleration is significant (day 2 of driving it I nearly had a tailgating transit in the back of me when CC disengaged on the A14).

I would genuinely have sent this car back if it were a Standard M3; as it is, I can forgive pretty much everything for the incredible acceleration from the P model!
I would agree with the comparison between the volvo and tesla AP. It seems like we had similar issues of the system disengaging as well.

Today didn't have any problems and it worked fairly well. I didn't need to do a soft reset either so I'm hoping it's settled down now!

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Still odd, though I am in NZ with a more open AP than you get in europe shouldnt be any different on a straightish highway.

Mine now (with fsd/trafic lights) is capable of the majority of my drive to work including lights and 90 degree bends etc bu excluding junctions/turns and roundabouts.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Half the problem is speed sign recognition. Volvo have this visually via Mobileye. Tesla are using maps. At some point they will workaround it but until then cc with variable speed limits is dodge.

Maybe the maps are better in nz

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Nope the speeds are frequently wrong :/ speed sign reading is coming at some point

Incorrect speeds wont cause disengagements though and you can always manually reduce the speed using the rhs dial

Moley RUFC

3,615 posts

189 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Collected mine from Birmingham today.

Zcd1

451 posts

55 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Moley RUFC said:
Collected mine from Birmingham today.
Looks great - congrats!

Give us some new-owner reactions when you have a few miles on it!

ColdoRS

1,804 posts

127 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Moley RUFC said:
Collected mine from Birmingham today.
Every time I see a red P i wish i'd went for it instead of MSM! Had a red daily before this though so fancied a change, but they do look great.

Enjoy.

Maracus

4,237 posts

168 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Moley RUFC said:
Collected mine from Birmingham today.
That red is so good smile

Durzel

12,268 posts

168 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Nice smile

dmsims

6,522 posts

267 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Moley RUFC said:
Collected mine from Birmingham today.
Looks good!

nickpan

581 posts

189 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Anyone know what the lead times on new M3Ps are at the moment?

Moley RUFC

3,615 posts

189 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Thanks for the comments. Can’t lie though I got home and jumped in the 4C for a drive hehe

Mouse Rat

1,812 posts

92 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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nickpan said:
Anyone know what the lead times on new M3Ps are at the moment?
End of September at the moment according to Tesla in Brum. I'm looking for October delivery and test drove a Model 3 Performance this week. Impressed and not as bad as people make out. Love the seats and a very practical car. I'm not sure about the massive tablet stuck in the middle, but it's got me thinking.

Heres Johnny

7,227 posts

124 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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nickpan said:
Anyone know what the lead times on new M3Ps are at the moment?
The websiote tells you when you configure the car, and if its white you are after they have plenty of inventory so I'd imagine as little as a week.