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BAM!
And like that, it's all over!
http://twitter.com/Dyson/status/118232125524618854...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50004184
And like that, it's all over!
http://twitter.com/Dyson/status/118232125524618854...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50004184
cybersimon said:
Do you suppose that there could be more money in just the solid state batteries, that they probably know about, rather than in a whole motor car that they probably don't.
Much sense in playing to strengths
Very much so, and the exact point i made 3 years ago when the project first broke cover. ie that it's insane to make your own car just because you can do one single bit of it! Much sense in playing to strengths
Witchfinder said:
Anyone who cracks energy dense, commercially competitive solid state batteries will have a licence to print money.
Whereas making 4-wheeled personal transportation is a low-margin/high volume business with extortionate entry costs. Not a difficult commercial decision.Obviously cancelled, but interesting to see it revealed:
https://www.engadget.com/dysons-electric-car-n526-...
Given the 600 mile range and necessary £150k price (could Dyson not have sold carbon credits like Tesla to tip that balance?), I do wonder how much the price could have been dropped for less range from those solid state batteries?
https://www.engadget.com/dysons-electric-car-n526-...
Given the 600 mile range and necessary £150k price (could Dyson not have sold carbon credits like Tesla to tip that balance?), I do wonder how much the price could have been dropped for less range from those solid state batteries?
Sounds like he is lying about it anyway. 600 mile range, so either it has a literal tonne of batteries or he invented some revolutionary new battery that he is now keeping to himself instead of mass producing and raking in the cash.
A lot of the other stuff he said about it is clearly nonsense too, like the "floating dashboard". He means it had a HUD like many other cheap cars already do.
If he really had this car which he could sell profitably at £150k he would be mad not to do it. People pay that much for a top spec Tesla and it would lead to developing cheaper models.
A lot of the other stuff he said about it is clearly nonsense too, like the "floating dashboard". He means it had a HUD like many other cheap cars already do.
If he really had this car which he could sell profitably at £150k he would be mad not to do it. People pay that much for a top spec Tesla and it would lead to developing cheaper models.
aestetix1 said:
If he really had this car which he could sell profitably at £150k he would be mad not to do it. People pay that much for a top spec Tesla and it would lead to developing cheaper models.
It's ironic that you would make this comment when we are entering what will be most serious global economic depression in our lifetime. And the number of people paying £150k for a car is minuscule.
aestetix1 said:
Sounds like he is lying about it anyway. 600 mile range, so either it has a literal tonne of batteries or he invented some revolutionary new battery that he is now keeping to himself instead of mass producing and raking in the cash.
A lot of the other stuff he said about it is clearly nonsense too, like the "floating dashboard". He means it had a HUD like many other cheap cars already do.
If he really had this car which he could sell profitably at £150k he would be mad not to do it. People pay that much for a top spec Tesla and it would lead to developing cheaper models.
(1) he does have "revolutionary new battery" techA lot of the other stuff he said about it is clearly nonsense too, like the "floating dashboard". He means it had a HUD like many other cheap cars already do.
If he really had this car which he could sell profitably at £150k he would be mad not to do it. People pay that much for a top spec Tesla and it would lead to developing cheaper models.
(2) we don't know what *volume* would be needed to even make it at £150k - if that volume is greater than the addressable market then there's no business case.
skwdenyer said:
aestetix1 said:
Sounds like he is lying about it anyway. 600 mile range, so either it has a literal tonne of batteries or he invented some revolutionary new battery that he is now keeping to himself instead of mass producing and raking in the cash.
A lot of the other stuff he said about it is clearly nonsense too, like the "floating dashboard". He means it had a HUD like many other cheap cars already do.
If he really had this car which he could sell profitably at £150k he would be mad not to do it. People pay that much for a top spec Tesla and it would lead to developing cheaper models.
(1) he does have "revolutionary new battery" techA lot of the other stuff he said about it is clearly nonsense too, like the "floating dashboard". He means it had a HUD like many other cheap cars already do.
If he really had this car which he could sell profitably at £150k he would be mad not to do it. People pay that much for a top spec Tesla and it would lead to developing cheaper models.
(2) we don't know what *volume* would be needed to even make it at £150k - if that volume is greater than the addressable market then there's no business case.
What this may turn out to be is a good tech demonstrator. I image there are a number of smaller car companies sniffing around this tech with a view to integrating it into their near future lineups. If I worked at Mazda, Mitubishi or Subaru I might be very interested in this secret sauce.
skwdenyer said:
(1) he does have "revolutionary new battery" tech
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"Revolutionary new battery tech" is very much like perpertual motion machines! Lots of people claim lots of things, none have actually ever managed to cash in..
Like Perpetual motion, if you actually had a volume production viable battery with twice the current energy density you could literally walk un-announced straight into the board room of any OE in the work, show them what you have, and walk out with a blank cheque. And yet, that hasn't happened.......
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