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VEIGHT said:
What options did you go for?
I'm looking at this as a business lease too!
I didn’t choose options as it’s a stock car - although I imagine being 4 weeks away it’s perhaps in build now.I'm looking at this as a business lease too!
It was basically metallic paint, Comfort & Sound pack, Virtual Wing mirrors plus side assist. About £4k of options I wouldn’t have ticked personally but it’s a good price for a 55 and a reasonable amount of mileage so I’m taking it.
Anyone who fancies waiting a little longer might want to watch this space as the S version is supposedly imminent and this is very promising...
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/first-...
cheeky_chops said:
Wouldn't wait round, the BIK makes it crazy cheap after corp and personal tax
As its over 3 years we added comfort/sound pack (stereo and 360 cameras) and heated steering wheel. I went for the base 50 Technik as the missus company is paying, cant be too greedy
It’s still £26k of business funds over three years (including the 50% non-reclaimable VAT) but if I try to distribute that as dividends I’m at a high marginal tax rate so the effective net cost is much less than this.As its over 3 years we added comfort/sound pack (stereo and 360 cameras) and heated steering wheel. I went for the base 50 Technik as the missus company is paying, cant be too greedy
I’m also spending at least £600/month on petrol in my M5 which the e-tron can reduce significantly by offloading all local journeys, this will also save a lot of cold starts and wear and tear for trivial purposes like schools and shopping.
Looking forward to trying it.
theboss said:
I have a 55 coming late in March just confirmed by the broker.
Spent a bit more than I wanted to but it’s got a few options (£76k p11d) and is costing £585 ex vat on 6+35 15kpa on a business lease.
Still a lot cheaper than equivalent cost/spec i-pace or merc.
Where did you find this? Pretty good price atm.Spent a bit more than I wanted to but it’s got a few options (£76k p11d) and is costing £585 ex vat on 6+35 15kpa on a business lease.
Still a lot cheaper than equivalent cost/spec i-pace or merc.
drmike37 said:
Where did you find this? Pretty good price atm.
With these guys - would be worth picking up the phone and seeing what they have left as I believe the allocation of 55’s has been scarce. https://www.fleetsauce.co.uk/offers/audi-e-tron-es...
cheeky_chops said:
Anyone have to have a tracker fitted as a insurance requirement? If so, can you put this down as a expense on a company car?
If the car is owned or leased by the company, any ancillary costs should be paid by the company. The insurance policy should be held by the company, tyres and servicing bills addressed to the company, etc. I don’t see why a tracker would be any different.theboss said:
If the car is owned or leased by the company, any ancillary costs should be paid by the company. The insurance policy should be held by the company, tyres and servicing bills addressed to the company, etc. I don’t see why a tracker would be any different.
My thinking too 
theboss said:
If the car is owned or leased by the company, any ancillary costs should be paid by the company. The insurance policy should be held by the company, tyres and servicing bills addressed to the company, etc. I don’t see why a tracker would be any different.
Seems like an odd question idd.
It's part of the appeal of EV's here in Belgium now.
All cars can take a percentage of their cost into the company. For example a higher en car will be <50%. A regular diesel car will be ~60% (dependent on CO2). A LGV or HGV will be 100%.
So it's more a measure of "is this a vehicle for company or personal purpose?".
Ev's last year were 120%
, now 100%.On top of that, it's not just the car but EVERYTHING that has to do with it. Going from fuel, to insurance, tires, ... It's insane the difference between a diesel car and an EV when you take all that into account.
ZesPak said:
Seems like an odd question idd.
It's part of the appeal of EV's here in Belgium now.
All cars can take a percentage of their cost into the company. For example a higher en car will be <50%. A regular diesel car will be ~60% (dependent on CO2). A LGV or HGV will be 100%.
So it's more a measure of "is this a vehicle for company or personal purpose?".
Ev's last year were 120%
, now 100%.On top of that, it's not just the car but EVERYTHING that has to do with it. Going from fuel, to insurance, tires, ... It's insane the difference between a diesel car and an EV when you take all that into account.
theboss said:
What’s the charging situation like in Belgium? I do quite a few business trips over there and have wondered how plausible it would be to take this Audi, though I’ll always have an ICE backup car for long distance touring.
I only really need them in the Netherlands as in the 100D I can easily traverse Belgium, and the Netherlands has destination chargers literally everywhere.Quick charging I also only look at superchargers.
https://abetterrouteplanner.com/ is your best bet, been brilliant for me. I've got a NewMotion badge which covers almost every charger in Belgium and all chargers in the Netherlands, plus most others in Europe.
I picked that one as it hasn't got a monthly fee, I think I used it three times in the past year. Two of which was to test it out.
Hi All,
First time posting in this thread. Just joined the EV movement with the acquisition of an e-tron so thought I'd say hello to this thread.
I am Director of my own ltd company (powerfully built Director etc haha), and the BIK is just too good to ignore. Run all the costs of motoring via the business with untaxed money, save corporation tax and pay no BIK? Yes please.
I was previously into cars, having had a couple of Maserati Gran Turismos, an M6, RS7, 991 911 Turbo etc but have been in a Full Fat Range followed by a Range Sport for the last 3 years. As such key for an EV for me was comfort, size, luxury, refinement etc which as I've got older have become the key factors in a vehicle rather than pure performance, speed and so on.
The E-Tron was a blind buy, having never driven one, or any other EV but I read every review going and watched dozens of YouTube videos. The way I saw it is my choices were;
I Pace - great reviews on performance/handling, but infotainment looks a bit dated and after 3.5 years of JLR build quality and niggles I couldn't cope with committing to another of their products
Model X - crazy expensive, and paying for performance not build quality. Plus unsure on the look, and poor residuals.
E Tron - every review says it's the most SUV like ride, and best build quality, most refined etc. I also love the look of it, it looks like a normal SUV rather than something super quirky so suited me dipping my toe into EVs. Strong residuals is a nice advantage too.
I managed to find a 300 mile £85k list price 55 launch edition for £65k, in black (and got the 15 spoke alloys blacked out too which looks awesome), with all the options I'd want, rang up and put a deposit down that day! Finally picked it up yesterday. So far really enjoying it, the tech feels 10 years ahead of my 3 year old Range Sport I have come out of and the build quality is on a different level.
Looking forward to learning more about it, and contributing to this thread in case it helps others thinking of making the leap!
Cheers
First time posting in this thread. Just joined the EV movement with the acquisition of an e-tron so thought I'd say hello to this thread.
I am Director of my own ltd company (powerfully built Director etc haha), and the BIK is just too good to ignore. Run all the costs of motoring via the business with untaxed money, save corporation tax and pay no BIK? Yes please.
I was previously into cars, having had a couple of Maserati Gran Turismos, an M6, RS7, 991 911 Turbo etc but have been in a Full Fat Range followed by a Range Sport for the last 3 years. As such key for an EV for me was comfort, size, luxury, refinement etc which as I've got older have become the key factors in a vehicle rather than pure performance, speed and so on.
The E-Tron was a blind buy, having never driven one, or any other EV but I read every review going and watched dozens of YouTube videos. The way I saw it is my choices were;
I Pace - great reviews on performance/handling, but infotainment looks a bit dated and after 3.5 years of JLR build quality and niggles I couldn't cope with committing to another of their products
Model X - crazy expensive, and paying for performance not build quality. Plus unsure on the look, and poor residuals.
E Tron - every review says it's the most SUV like ride, and best build quality, most refined etc. I also love the look of it, it looks like a normal SUV rather than something super quirky so suited me dipping my toe into EVs. Strong residuals is a nice advantage too.
I managed to find a 300 mile £85k list price 55 launch edition for £65k, in black (and got the 15 spoke alloys blacked out too which looks awesome), with all the options I'd want, rang up and put a deposit down that day! Finally picked it up yesterday. So far really enjoying it, the tech feels 10 years ahead of my 3 year old Range Sport I have come out of and the build quality is on a different level.
Looking forward to learning more about it, and contributing to this thread in case it helps others thinking of making the leap!
Cheers
TallTony said:
what sort of range are being experiencing on the 50 model?
50 has a 65kw battery. From what ive read (50 has only just started delivery here, get mine in 4 weeks) you should get 2 to 3 miles/kw hour. So worst case 130, best 180 miles.The motor is less powerful that the 55, lighter batteries, smaller 20" wheels will help.... I will be happy with 150 coming from a Leaf 24kw!There are some good personal and business lease deals showing up in the last couple of days on the E-Tron 50 Technik. Circa £510/mo (Inc VAT) on 1+23 with 10k miles. I'm very tempted, I just don't know if I can live with 150 miles of winter range. I normally do about 25 miles per day, but may need to do 130 miles on Saturdays.
It's not just the range, the poor efficiency wipes out a lot of any anticipated fuel savings. Even with its SUV shape, I can't understand how it's *that* inefficient!
It's not just the range, the poor efficiency wipes out a lot of any anticipated fuel savings. Even with its SUV shape, I can't understand how it's *that* inefficient!
Witchfinder said:
Even with its SUV shape, I can't understand how it's *that* inefficient!
This is probably not the best thread for it as there's a couple of owners on here, but I still believe that Audi could have done much, much better if they just tried.VAG has billions invested in diesel powertrains. Someone probably already did the maths on how much it makes them every day they can keep the diesel train running.
On top of that, they are masters in making a car "good enough". What I mean by that is that if you compare an A4 to, for example, a Giulia, you know that the A4 is what Audi wanted to build. The A4 can't feel as premium as an A6, even if they could do it. It should be just that much better than a Passat and so on.
While the Giulia, for better or worse, is the absolute best Alfa could do at that time at that budget. Clarkson once illustrated it nicely when the Cayman just arrived. How it slotted in so perfectly in price, hp, speed, any number, between the 911 and the Boxster.
To me, they pulled a Cayman. It could have used its space better, it could have been faster and it could have been
But imagine it being as practical and fast as an SQ7 with half the running costs? An EV on top of their food chain? No way VAG is going to build that.
Imho Tesla has these manufacturers in a corner. They are making moves that are similar to Sony and other record companies when mp3's were on the rise. They make too much money on maintenance and have too much invested in ICE technology to make a truly compelling EV. This is the exact reason the car industry is in decline, Germany is preparing for a recession and Tesla stock is at absurd highs.
Witchfinder said:
It's not just the range, the poor efficiency wipes out a lot of any anticipated fuel savings. Even with its SUV shape, I can't understand how it's *that* inefficient!
It's basically a fossil car conversion. Inefficient drivetrain, heavy, high drag. It's the worst EV for efficiency by a long way because they seem to have put zero effort into making it good and instead rely on a large battery and fast-ish charging.aestetix1 said:
It's basically a fossil car conversion. Inefficient drivetrain, heavy, high drag. It's the worst EV for efficiency by a long way because they seem to have put zero effort into making it good and instead rely on a large battery and fast-ish charging.
That all maybe true but its still a nice car in the metal.Passed one on the commute to work today, looks just nicer than the Q8 with its monster fish mouth grill.
It is a really nice car , well screwed together . Some quirky features like the regen. logic etc but a nice place to be .
Even at , say 2miles/kWh , it is the equivalent of c 80-100 mpg ? If you charge on cheaper night rates that goes to 240-300 mpg ...
Efficiency is all relative , but it is still cheap ...
Even at , say 2miles/kWh , it is the equivalent of c 80-100 mpg ? If you charge on cheaper night rates that goes to 240-300 mpg ...
Efficiency is all relative , but it is still cheap ...
ds666 said:
It is a really nice car , well screwed together . Some quirky features like the regen. logic etc but a nice place to be .
Even at , say 2miles/kWh , it is the equivalent of c 80-100 mpg ? If you charge on cheaper night rates that goes to 240-300 mpg ...
Efficiency is all relative , but it is still cheap ...
Does it have some magical ingredient to avoid depreciation ?Even at , say 2miles/kWh , it is the equivalent of c 80-100 mpg ? If you charge on cheaper night rates that goes to 240-300 mpg ...
Efficiency is all relative , but it is still cheap ...
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