Audi e-tron

[rrao56]

Another software glitch
Wing camera on drivers side suddenly stopped working on two occasions. Blind spot light and touchscreen also lost. Big problem driving on the motorway especially with changing lanes. Passenger side camera at full brightness.
Seems to only happen if wing mirror folded when parked.
Audi UK apparently aware of issue.
For now, the advice is: “ Find a safe parking space, turn off ignition for at least 15 minutes and MMI system will reset itself “.
Is it legal to drive without a wing mirror?

[RobDickinson]

rrao56 said:

Is it legal to drive without a wing mirror?

"Yes, it's illegal. It's not illegal to drive without the passenger side wing mirror, provided the other two mirrors (offside wing mirror and interior mirror) are intact. However, you legally need two working mirrors and one must be on the driver's side.A"

[Witchfinder]

The virtual mirrors always seemed to be a strange and expensive folly; an answer to the question literally nobody was asking. Now we find they're unreliable too.

[rrao56]

RobDickinson said:

"Yes, it's illegal. It's not illegal to drive without the passenger side wing mirror, provided the other two mirrors (offside wing mirror and interior mirror) are intact. However, you legally need two working mirrors and one must be on the driver's side.A"

Thanks for the info.
Escalating to Audi UK

[Pooh]

kuro68k said:

modeller said:

Side charging ports are standard fit these days .. it's not an issue and I've done 10's (probably not 100's yet) of public charges

The best place is the front, like the Niro, Kona, Leaf, Zoe and some of the other Audis. All the well designed cars have it at the front where it won't get the cable ripped out.

Side charging ports are just an accident waiting to happen. Good luck.

I agree that front is best. I parked my Zoe between two Mitsubishi PHEVs today and the side mounted plug in the one to the right made it quite awkward to squeeze round to the front of my car to plug it in, I think it would be quite easy to accidentally damage it.
As for the Audi, it has zero appeal to me.

[romeogolf]

Pooh said:

kuro68k said:

modeller said:

Side charging ports are standard fit these days .. it's not an issue and I've done 10's (probably not 100's yet) of public charges

The best place is the front, like the Niro, Kona, Leaf, Zoe and some of the other Audis. All the well designed cars have it at the front where it won't get the cable ripped out.

Side charging ports are just an accident waiting to happen. Good luck.

I agree that front is best. I parked my Zoe between two Mitsubishi PHEVs today and the side mounted plug in the one to the right made it quite awkward to squeeze round to the front of my car to plug it in, I think it would be quite easy to accidentally damage it.
As for the Audi, it has zero appeal to me.

I've always found a front charging port to be slightly inconvenient as it forces you to drive forwards into the space and reverse back out into moving traffic.

[saaby93]

romeogolf said:

I've always found a front charging port to be slightly inconvenient as it forces you to drive forwards into the space and reverse back out into moving traffic.

I know they shouldnt but many people prefer driving into a narrow space and reversing out into a big space

[Guffy]

The e-tron was on my shortlist for next year, but have seen too many reviews now that put it behind the competition.

[anonymous-user]

romeogolf said:

I've always found a front charging port to be slightly inconvenient as it forces you to drive forwards into the space and reverse back out into moving traffic.

Rear cross traffic sensors help. Most charging bays are extra wide too so you can see a lot easier.

You also have to consider the on-street parking situation where you are parked parallel to the curb. Side ports mean either sticking out into the road or onto the pavement, neither very desirable.

I suppose ideally cars would have one port at the front and one at the back.

[Hobo]

Guffy said:

The e-tron was on my shortlist for next year, but have seen too many reviews now that put it behind the competition.

Suppose it comes down to what you want out of the car.

I've just provisionally ordered an E-Tron, in the main for the following reasons;

1. I wanted a car that could comfortably fit 5, with luggage when required, and be able to throw a dog in the boot occasionally. Out of the EV's available this only left the Tesla Model X or the E-Tron

2. I've generally had an Audi of some sort for a lot of years, mainly A6 or Offroads, and have had no issue with them or the service they provide. They have dealers local, which I cant really say of Tesla, and not as much of Jaguar

3. I still to some degree buy cars based on looks and genuinely prefer the Audi to the Tesla. I do like the Jaguar, but it fiesnt suit me in other areas

4. I'm leading it through my business, and the E-Tron is significantly cheaper that either the Jaguar (SE) or Tesla Model X. The one I've just ordered (3+23 basis) was £450.00 per month plus a few options, which took it to £497.00. Quotes for the Jaguar on the same basis were nearer £550.00 plus options (although does seem to have come down recently as plenty of stock around), and the Tesla around £1,100.00 plus options. I've only looked at 2 & 3 year deals as think the BIK will change dramatically at that point and dont want to be stuck with an 80k with a high BIK.

In essence, the only other car I didn't consider was the Mercedes, but just dont like the interiors.

Each to thier own though. I've read the same reviews, the Jag is by fars the better drivers car, the Tesla has more bells & whistles, and us faster, but the E-Tron for me will take me and my family to where we need to get, in a decent level of luxury and comfort, with a range more than sufficient for the journeys I do.

[Witchfinder]

saaby93 said:

I know they shouldnt but many people prefer driving into a narrow space and reversing out into a big space

It's not as simple as that. The end of the car that is doing the steering makes a huge difference. Lazy cretins who drive forwards into parking spaces are the reason for so many door dents and corner scrapes.

[SWoll]

Witchfinder said:

saaby93 said:

I know they shouldnt but many people prefer driving into a narrow space and reversing out into a big space

It's not as simple as that. The end of the car that is doing the steering makes a huge difference. Lazy cretins who drive forwards into parking spaces are the reason for so many door dents and corner scrapes.

Depends where I'm parking. I'd rather people parked front first in supermarkets etc. personally as less chance of someone taking off you mirror etc. with a bag of shopping or trying to squeeze a trolley through the gap to get at their boot.

[ds666]

Hobo said:

Guffy said:

The e-tron was on my shortlist for next year, but have seen too many reviews now that put it behind the competition.

Suppose it comes down to what you want out of the car.

I've just provisionally ordered an E-Tron, in the main for the following reasons;

1. I wanted a car that could comfortably fit 5, with luggage when required, and be able to throw a dog in the boot occasionally. Out of the EV's available this only left the Tesla Model X or the E-Tron

2. I've generally had an Audi of some sort for a lot of years, mainly A6 or Offroads, and have had no issue with them or the service they provide. They have dealers local, which I cant really say of Tesla, and not as much of Jaguar

3. I still to some degree buy cars based on looks and genuinely prefer the Audi to the Tesla. I do like the Jaguar, but it fiesnt suit me in other areas

4. I'm leading it through my business, and the E-Tron is significantly cheaper that either the Jaguar (SE) or Tesla Model X. The one I've just ordered (3+23 basis) was £450.00 per month plus a few options, which took it to £497.00. Quotes for the Jaguar on the same basis were nearer £550.00 plus options (although does seem to have come down recently as plenty of stock around), and the Tesla around £1,100.00 plus options. I've only looked at 2 & 3 year deals as think the BIK will change dramatically at that point and dont want to be stuck with an 80k with a high BIK.

In essence, the only other car I didn't consider was the Mercedes, but just dont like the interiors.

Each to thier own though. I've read the same reviews, the Jag is by fars the better drivers car, the Tesla has more bells & whistles, and us faster, but the E-Tron for me will take me and my family to where we need to get, in a decent level of luxury and comfort, with a range more than sufficient for the journeys I do.

I'm in a similar situation to you . Got am i pace 4 weeks ago , loving it . Wife has an i3 which I want to replace at Christmas but we now have 2 dogs ( which have to travel inside the i 3 ) so likely to go for an e-tron as a) it has a hatchback boot big enough for the dogs and b ) lease cost is a lot cheaper than the ipace ( I have an hse with a few extras ) . As both are co. cars I too worry about what will happen to the BIK after the next 3 years so e-tron will be on 2 years .
Test drive next Friday

[elliot330]

can you guys share the companies who are quoting £450 for a lease please?

[Witchfinder]

elliot330 said:

can you guys share the companies who are quoting £450 for a lease please?

I'm assuming that it's a business lease, so unless you're also doing a business lease, you'll at least need to add VAT onto that price.

[saaby93]

some selections here
https://www.gateway2lease.com/cars/audi/e-tron/e-t...

5kmiles 9+23
Initial of £2,815.92 + VAT followed by
23 x £312.88 + VAT per month
plus admin £165 + VAT
£12,212.59 total
£508.86 per month amortised


10k miles £12730.76 +vat £15276.912
£636.538 per month amortised

Edited by saaby93 on Monday 2nd September 00:53

[ds666]

Audi have quoted me £475 per month , 3 +24 inc metallic paint , 10000 pa , business ex vat

[PSB1]

rrao56 said:

Here’s mine, a returned edition 1 (no idea why it was returned).
Charged exclusively at home from solar panels and Tesla battery. 201 miles from full charge. Drives beautifully and quiet. Don’t like the artificial whine, meant to warn pedestrians. Interior not bad, better than my old RSQ3 and X3 M40i. Still learning all the foibles. Has the wing cameras, reduce width but have to be manually folded in ( should have been sorted before release), also viewing position for screen too low.
Driven 1000 miles so far, will update

Nice. I was very, very close to getting an Edition 1. I'm glad I didn't buy one brand new. Buying one as the 2nd owner makes a lot of sense.

Hopefully the mirror glitch is just something that gets resolved quickly with a software update. I'd trust (!) Audi a lot more to fix the early glitches than JLR.

[ds666]

I test drove an E Tron yesterday - it doesn't appear to have much " engine braking " ( regen) compared with either an i3 on an i-pace , meaning that you have to drive it using the brakes all the time . For those that have one or have driven one - is that normal ?

I did try the paddles but didn't seem to make any difference

[RobDickinson]

ds666 said:

I test drove an E Tron yesterday - it doesn't appear to have much " engine braking " ( regen) compared with either an i3 on an i-pace , meaning that you have to drive it using the brakes all the time . For those that have one or have driven one - is that normal ?

I did try the paddles but didn't seem to make any difference

Audi chose to give it a more ice like drive and only portioned a small amount of regen on the accelerator, rest is accessed by the brake pedal