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Hobo said:
Apparently other EV's do similar, and therefore switching the satnav on does generally reduce the range shown on the dash.
Not noticed it on the Tesla (even with battery pre-warming to improve charge speeds) but definitely saw it on the i3 we had previously. 5-10% drop in range as soon as satnav was in use, but then that was only a 40kWh battery (so 2-4kW dependent on the length of the trip). I was similarly surprised it was suggested range would be affected to any noticeable degree. 4kW in 2-3 hours of driving is a lot of draw just for GPS and screen updates?Hobo said:
Apparently other EV's do similar, and therefore switching the satnav on does generally reduce the range shown on the dash.
... that makes a lot more sense.Hobo said:
The biggest drain on the etron is the satnav so not having this on saves a mass of miles (bet it would knock 30 miles off range if kept on all the time).
But is a completely different statement from this one!ZesPak said:
Hobo said:
Apparently other EV's do similar, and therefore switching the satnav on does generally reduce the range shown on the dash.
... that makes a lot more sense.Hobo said:
The biggest drain on the etron is the satnav so not having this on saves a mass of miles (bet it would knock 30 miles off range if kept on all the time).
But is a completely different statement from this one!If I get into the car when fully charged it reads maybe 210 miles.
If I turn the AC/heater on it drops (maybe 3 or 4 miles)
If I turn the heated seat on it drops (I think.... maybe 1 mile)
If I am in comfort mode but put it into efficiency mode it increases (not sure how much, but it limits the 'revs', and drops the suspension)
If I turn on the satnav it drops 20/30 miles (honestly)
Can't think what else I use that may cause similar ..... I suspect charging the phone on the wireless charger does but never noticed it. AC/heater & satnav are the big things I notice, and the first I switch off if the range anxiety kicks in. That and dropping the speed to around 55mph which far improves efficiency over 70mph on the motorway.
Hobo said:
ZesPak said:
Hobo said:
Apparently other EV's do similar, and therefore switching the satnav on does generally reduce the range shown on the dash.
... that makes a lot more sense.Hobo said:
The biggest drain on the etron is the satnav so not having this on saves a mass of miles (bet it would knock 30 miles off range if kept on all the time).
But is a completely different statement from this one!
Hobo said:
. That and dropping the speed to around 55mph which far improves efficiency over 70mph on the motorway.
On my trip to Grantham last weeks in the wife's E Tron I ended up at 50mph on the motorway to ensure that the range was dropping at the same rate as the miles to go to destination on the sat nav .A tad ironic that switching the sat nav off would have increased the range . But then I would have been worrying about how far to home and not knowning ... bit catch 22 ....My careful charging planning was snookered by an un-planned but essential extra visit that added 40 miles to my trip . This meant I needed another charge . When you are short on range there is nothing worse than having to divert off your route to seek a charger that may not be working , thereby possibly reducing your range even more . All a bit rubbish really.
ZesPak said:
ds666 said:
A tad ironic that switching the sat nav off would have increased the range .
... except that it really wouldn't.
Thinking about it, surely the point is that satnav can provide an accurate range prediction as it knows exactly where you intend to travel and the likely speeds you will be doing on the route so if the journey includes motorways at 70mph the range prediction changes accordingly? I don't think it has anything to do with the power drawn by the GPS?
Without satnav it has no clue as to your intended use so will give a best case scenario which will be less accurate if you then make the same trip?
SWoll said:
ZesPak said:
ds666 said:
A tad ironic that switching the sat nav off would have increased the range .
... except that it really wouldn't.Thinking about it, surely the point is that satnav can provide an accurate range prediction as it knows exactly where you intend to travel and the likely speeds you will be doing on the route so if the journey includes motorways at 70mph the range prediction changes accordingly? I don't think it has anything to do with the power drawn by the GPS?
Without satnav it has no clue as to your intended use so will give a best case scenario which will be less accurate if you then make the same trip?
SWoll said:
Thinking about it, surely the point is that satnav can provide an accurate range prediction as it knows exactly where you intend to travel and the likely speeds you will be doing on the route so if the journey includes motorways at 70mph the range prediction changes accordingly? I don't think it has anything to do with the power drawn by the GPS?
Without satnav it has no clue as to your intended use so will give a best case scenario which will be less accurate if you then make the same trip?
Phunk said:
SWoll said:
ZesPak said:
ds666 said:
A tad ironic that switching the sat nav off would have increased the range .
... except that it really wouldn't.Thinking about it, surely the point is that satnav can provide an accurate range prediction as it knows exactly where you intend to travel and the likely speeds you will be doing on the route so if the journey includes motorways at 70mph the range prediction changes accordingly? I don't think it has anything to do with the power drawn by the GPS?
Without satnav it has no clue as to your intended use so will give a best case scenario which will be less accurate if you then make the same trip?
Not a clue how Hobo got to France in his , what with his Sat Nav and all .
I’ve had one from Onto for just over a month now - it was the only car they could deliver in a few days at the time.
It’s a 55 Black Edition on a 71 reg, delivered to me with 105 miles on the clock. Covered 1700 miles in it so far and I absolutely love it.
No, it’s not economical - neither is a petrol or diesel Q7. I’m not sure why people are shocked by the efficiency of a 2.6 ton luxury SUV.
Fit and finish are excellent as you’d expect. I’m a little surprised by some of the things that are optional extras given the price point - from those rear cup holders to the more involved features like adaptive cruise.
The charging speed is the real game changer I think - it is absolutely staggering just how fast 150kW is in reality when coming from a car (MG ZS) that struggles to reach 50kW. Stopping for very short amounts of time on long journeys brings near parity with ICE cars for journey time - it feels like far less of an inconvenience.
It’s a 55 Black Edition on a 71 reg, delivered to me with 105 miles on the clock. Covered 1700 miles in it so far and I absolutely love it.
No, it’s not economical - neither is a petrol or diesel Q7. I’m not sure why people are shocked by the efficiency of a 2.6 ton luxury SUV.
Fit and finish are excellent as you’d expect. I’m a little surprised by some of the things that are optional extras given the price point - from those rear cup holders to the more involved features like adaptive cruise.
The charging speed is the real game changer I think - it is absolutely staggering just how fast 150kW is in reality when coming from a car (MG ZS) that struggles to reach 50kW. Stopping for very short amounts of time on long journeys brings near parity with ICE cars for journey time - it feels like far less of an inconvenience.
On.to will be delivering ours on the 3rd Nov as a swap for our Model 3 Performance they are de-fleeting after 2 years. Bit of an indulgence cost wise but nothing else really tickled our fancy, their Tesla pricing has gone through the roof, and like the flexibility of their offering should circumstances change.
Glad to hear you are enjoying it, and agree that the lack of the certain options on an £82k car is rather disappointing..
ETA - Saw your last vid BTW. 2.4 miles/kWh on a motorway run isn't too bad IMHO. 200 miles of range between charging is an easy 3 hours of travel at which point I'd be looking for a comfort break anyway. Should see 220+ in our daily use which isn't far off what we get in the Tesla, although the battery capacity is 10% bigger.
Edited by SWoll on Thursday 21st October 15:20
SWoll said:
On.to will be delivering ours on the 3rd Nov as a swap for our Model 3 Performance they are de-fleeting after 2 years. Bit of an indulgence cost wise but nothing else really tickled our fancy, their Tesla pricing has gone through the roof, and like the flexibility of their offering should circumstances change.
Glad to hear you are enjoying it, and agree that the lack of the certain options on an £82k car is rather disappointing..
SWoll said:
ETA - Saw your last vid BTW. 2.4 miles/kWh on a motorway run isn't too bad IMHO. 200 miles of range between charging is an easy 3 hours of travel at which point I'd be looking for a comfort break anyway.
Edited by SWoll on Thursday 21st October 15:18
I actually had to queue to use these chargers on the return leg - I suspect some of those people who say they’ll never use IONITY are being a little disingenuous!
Toaster Pilot said:
SWoll said:
On.to will be delivering ours on the 3rd Nov as a swap for our Model 3 Performance they are de-fleeting after 2 years. Bit of an indulgence cost wise but nothing else really tickled our fancy, their Tesla pricing has gone through the roof, and like the flexibility of their offering should circumstances change.
Glad to hear you are enjoying it, and agree that the lack of the certain options on an £82k car is rather disappointing..
Toaster Pilot said:
I didn’t think it was that bad at all, especially given it’s actually a mix of A-road and motorway. Did a long motorway journey in it (video coming soon) recently and efficiency was ever so slightly higher.
I actually had to queue to use these chargers on the return leg - I suspect some of those people who say they’ll never use IONITY are being a little disingenuous!
Can count on one hand the number of times we've charged the Tesla publicly in the past 2 years so not really a concern for us. Will need some more planning when it does happen though as supercharging takes away almost all of the stress.I actually had to queue to use these chargers on the return leg - I suspect some of those people who say they’ll never use IONITY are being a little disingenuous!
Be interesting to see just how badly the winter weather affects the range as with electric prices going up it could get a bit pricey and annoyingly we don't have a local rapid I can use for free with one of the on.to provided cards to balance it out.
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