Polestar 2

[SWoll]

Jacobyte said:

SWoll said:

Never understood the decision to go with such expensive adjustable dampers on the PP which pushed the price up so high. Who's buying a P2 to take on track or will likely ever get the spanners out to adjust it?

It's not necessarily about the day-to-day adjustability (spanners not really required). It's more about the ability to set them to how you want them, then leave them there, in addition to the much more responsive and supple action that they have compared with the standard setup. This, along with the brakes, comes noticeably alive when you're pushing on - the feedback level increases exponentially when you're properly leaning on it and braking late.
For us driving nerds that like to optimise the dynamic driving experience, it's certainly worthwhile.

On the flip side, I'm not interested in expensive detailing, swirl removal or PPF - I've washed/vacuumed the car 3 times since Feb 2021. It looks fine and generally clean.

You will I'm sure admit to being in a tiny minority who would actually go to the effort with the suspension, so I'm still unsure as to why they bothered on what is a mainstream vehicle.

[Witchfinder]

SWoll said:

You will I'm sure admit to being in a tiny minority who would actually go to the effort with the suspension, so I'm still unsure as to why they bothered on what is a mainstream vehicle.

To be fair, they seem to have sold a lot of PP equipped cars. People make all kinds of surprising decisions. I'm shocked at the number of people (particularly in the US) willing to stump up 4000 quid or the equivalent in dollars for old-man-Jag-beige leather seats.

I'd be interested to drive a PP equipped car dialed in to the comfort setting, just to see how it compares to mine on standard suspension and 19s. My car is a touch firmer than I would like, but I'm used to wafting around on Audi air suspension.

Edited by Witchfinder on Tuesday 24th May 23:11

[RichB]

dino_jr said:

My P2 was delivered earlier, here it is with my other car... One car to save the Planet, one car to ruin it !!
I just tried a drive in one pedal mode and my passenger and I have mild motion sickness now. Is that normal? The way it regen brakes is quite aggressive and so I am buckarooing down the road. Not easy to get used to.

Ironically the 911 is the one which will save it because you are unlikely to replace it in a hurry and the Polestar is the one to ruin it because it will be traded in/discarded in 3 years for a new model

[Jacobyte]

SWoll said:

You will I'm sure admit to being in a tiny minority who would actually go to the effort with the suspension

Absolutely, I particularly enjoy the paradox of manual damper adjustment on what is a modern whitegoods technology showcase. "Because racecar"? (which it certainly isn't)

SWoll said:

so I'm still unsure as to why they bothered on what is a mainstream vehicle.

No idea either, but I'm delighted that they did

[Pixelpeep 135]

Have a test drive booked for this saturday.

I'm frustrated with myself that its taken me so long to research these. Compared to everything else on offer they are an absolute (relative) bargain!

currently the dual motor is coming in at under £500 a month on a lease, which is incredible for what you get. 300 mile range 0-60 under 5 secs, good comfort (apparently) massive practicality, etc etc..

Seriously, unless it sleeps with my mother/sister whilst on the test drive i think i'm gonna sign up on the day!

Anyone got any experience of these?

[ajap1979]

Assume that £500/month is without Plus or Pilot packs?

FWIW I wouldn't say they offer "massive practicality". We get on fine with the size, our children are 13 and 10, but it's not a huge car. For instance, an ID3 feels roomier inside. I do think it's a very comfortable car, and mine has the 20" wheels so that will be even better on the standard wheels.

Edited by ajap1979 on Wednesday 8th June 15:54

[TheRainMaker]

Pixelpeep 135 said:

Have a test drive booked for this saturday.

I'm frustrated with myself that its taken me so long to research these. Compared to everything else on offer they are an absolute (relative) bargain!

currently the dual motor is coming in at under £500 a month on a lease, which is incredible for what you get. 300 mile range 0-60 under 5 secs, good comfort (apparently) massive practicality, etc etc..

Seriously, unless it sleeps with my mother/sister whilst on the test drive i think i'm gonna sign up on the day!

Anyone got any experience of these?

I have one,

You won't get anywhere near the 300-mile range (like all EVs) it will be more like 180-230.

The tech in the car is by far one of the better ones, the headlights are just amazing and well worth the cost.

For the best set up you will need to add the Plus and Pilot Packs.

Practicality is good however it is not a massive car, but has a bit more storage under the boot floor and a small front trunk. It is perfectly fine for a family car.

Very happy with mine, and it's a bit different from the rest of the stuff on the market.

[CoupeKid]

Pixelpeep 135 said:

Have a test drive booked for this saturday.

I'm frustrated with myself that its taken me so long to research these. Compared to everything else on offer they are an absolute (relative) bargain!

currently the dual motor is coming in at under £500 a month on a lease, which is incredible for what you get. 300 mile range 0-60 under 5 secs, good comfort (apparently) massive practicality, etc etc..

Seriously, unless it sleeps with my mother/sister whilst on the test drive i think i'm gonna sign up on the day!

Anyone got any experience of these?

I test drove a dual motor at Westfield a few Saturdays ago. The staff were really nice lads. They do a prepared spiel to show you the features of the example in the retail unit then take you down to the car park, get you settled in then you drive yourself on their preprogrammed route and have to get yourself back by either choosing the route home in Google maps or telling Google to take you to Westfield Valet Parking. I don’t know that area of London at all to drive so didn’t get onto the Westway to drive outside of an urban setting.

I’m choosing a company car at the moment. For tax reasons it has to be an EV and my choice is basically P2 or Hyundai Kona! I’m quite a tall bloke and rented a Kona for a day which was enough to convince me to find something bigger so it’s basically P2 or nothing. I’ve requested an absolutely lowly P2 in magnesium. Not a colour I like but anything else puts it over my budget.

Until Polestar revised their prices recently it was a director level car at my company. My director has one. He has to approve my order! If he questions it I’m going to have to point out that I’m going for the equivalent of a Mondeo LX while he probably has the budget for a Mondeo Si or Ghia. I think he’s a car guy so might buy my argument.

Going back to the car - good driving position, refined, nice inside. I didn’t like the steering as it felt very artificial even with the lane detection turned off. I also didn’t like Google maps in a car as I’m used to the sat nav in my Leon where I can set it so forward is always up rather than North.

Edit - I think I marginally preferred the Ionic5 I test drove but that’s not available to me and the delivery date would be somewhere in 2023 whereas if you order a Polestar now you’re looking at a late November delivery according to them.

Edited by CoupeKid on Wednesday 8th June 16:23

[McAndy]

TheRainMaker said:

It is perfectly fine for a family car.

Depends on the family!

We went to Fully Charged a few weeks back and looked around just about every electric car on offer in the UK right now. My wife really did not like the "cosiness" of the interior (big bridge separating the driver and passenger), the kids (4' 3" and 5') had less space in the back than in my Octavia, and the boot(s) were woefully inadequate (405 l in the back) for our needs (which include throwing in camping equipment for a family of four).

However, if you and you're family don't need much more boot space than a Golf/Focus (381 l/375 l), carry on!

(As point of reference, a Skoda Octavia hatch has ~600 litres of luggage capacity.)

[ajap1979]

CoupeKid said:

I also didn’t like Google maps in a car as I’m used to the sat nav in my Leon where I can set it so forward is always up rather than North.

It's always on direction of travel in the driver display. I'm sure you must be able to choose that on the main screen too?

ETA – https://www.polestar-forum.com/threads/google-map-...

[CoupeKid]

ajap1979 said:

CoupeKid said:

I also didn’t like Google maps in a car as I’m used to the sat nav in my Leon where I can set it so forward is always up rather than North.

It's always on direction of travel in the driver display. I'm sure you must be able to choose that on the main screen too?

ETA – https://www.polestar-forum.com/threads/google-map-...

[TheRainMaker]

McAndy said:

TheRainMaker said:

It is perfectly fine for a family car.

Depends on the family!

Guess it does

How about, it is perfectly fine for a family car that doesn't go camping? (could always get a roof box )

[dino_jr]

CoupeKid said:

... if you order a Polestar now you’re looking at a late November delivery according to them.

Edited by CoupeKid on Wednesday 8th June 16:23

Keep an eye on the pre-config page, currently showing 4 cars for delivery far sooner:

https://www.polestar.com/uk/preconfigured-cars/

Mine was a pre-config... Ordered Mar28th, arrived Apr28th, just 1 month wait.

[McAndy]

TheRainMaker said:

Guess it does

How about, it is perfectly fine for a family car that doesn't go camping? (could always get a roof box )

To be fair, I try to find reasons not to whenever I can!

[Diderot]

McAndy said:

TheRainMaker said:

Guess it does

How about, it is perfectly fine for a family car that doesn't go camping? (could always get a roof box )

To be fair, I try to find reasons not to whenever I can!

I fecking hate camping too. Cold, wet, spiders and ants everywhere, uncomfortable, no en-suite loo, indignity of shared shower block …

PS 2 great choice. I eventually went for the XC40 due to form factor but obviously same platform, battery and motors. Incidentally Pixelpeep, it’s very low 4s to 60. The PS 2 is hilariously fast in a straight line as is the XC40.

[AMG01]

My company is doing a EV salary sacrifice scheme (through Octopus) and the Polestar looks good at £429 a month. The model is Polestar 2 Standard Single (67kWh FWD) which is says has 240 miles range. I have started to read through this thread, everyone seems to say the dual motor but thats another £70 a month and too much of a stretch, how realistic is the range, am I looking more like 180 - 200 miles? I am home based but need to be out at sites on occasion can be once a week or 2 or 3 days a week, with the furthest site being 120 mile round trip, mostly motorway. The cost covers maintenance, tyres, road tax, MOT, AA breakdown and insurance, so seems like a decent deal. Never leased or had an EV so somewhat apprehensive, I currently have a Z4 convertible so this is a bit of a change.

[TheDeuce]

AMG01 said:

My company is doing a EV salary sacrifice scheme (through Octopus) and the Polestar looks good at £429 a month. The model is Polestar 2 Standard Single (67kWh FWD) which is says has 240 miles range. I have started to read through this thread, everyone seems to say the dual motor but thats another £70 a month and too much of a stretch, how realistic is the range, am I looking more like 180 - 200 miles? I am home based but need to be out at sites on occasion can be once a week or 2 or 3 days a week, with the furthest site being 120 mile round trip, mostly motorway. The cost covers maintenance, tyres, road tax, MOT, AA breakdown and insurance, so seems like a decent deal. Never leased or had an EV so somewhat apprehensive, I currently have a Z4 convertible so this is a bit of a change.

Isn't that £70 more a month pre tax though? So more like half that depending on your tax bracket. And still overall cheaper than the (I assume) personal Z4?

Either way, a very small amount of money to land a fully serviced, brand new 400+hp 4x4 on the drive!

[Shabaza]

AMG01 said:

My company is doing a EV salary sacrifice scheme (through Octopus) and the Polestar looks good at £429 a month. The model is Polestar 2 Standard Single (67kWh FWD) which is says has 240 miles range. I have started to read through this thread, everyone seems to say the dual motor but thats another £70 a month and too much of a stretch, how realistic is the range, am I looking more like 180 - 200 miles? I am home based but need to be out at sites on occasion can be once a week or 2 or 3 days a week, with the furthest site being 120 mile round trip, mostly motorway. The cost covers maintenance, tyres, road tax, MOT, AA breakdown and insurance, so seems like a decent deal. Never leased or had an EV so somewhat apprehensive, I currently have a Z4 convertible so this is a bit of a change.

In summer, even with 70-80mph driving you'll get 230 mile range
In winter 180-200
Add 5-10% range if you use less AC and do 60mph

[ajap1979]

Shabaza said:

In summer, even with 70-80mph driving you'll get 230 mile range
In winter 180-200
Add 5-10% range if you use less AC and do 60mph

Is this from personal experience, because it certainly doesn’t align with what my single motor car achieves.

[SWoll]

TheDeuce said:

AMG01 said:

My company is doing a EV salary sacrifice scheme (through Octopus) and the Polestar looks good at £429 a month. The model is Polestar 2 Standard Single (67kWh FWD) which is says has 240 miles range. I have started to read through this thread, everyone seems to say the dual motor but thats another £70 a month and too much of a stretch, how realistic is the range, am I looking more like 180 - 200 miles? I am home based but need to be out at sites on occasion can be once a week or 2 or 3 days a week, with the furthest site being 120 mile round trip, mostly motorway. The cost covers maintenance, tyres, road tax, MOT, AA breakdown and insurance, so seems like a decent deal. Never leased or had an EV so somewhat apprehensive, I currently have a Z4 convertible so this is a bit of a change.

Isn't that £70 more a month pre tax though? So more like half that depending on your tax bracket. And still overall cheaper than the (I assume) personal Z4?

Either way, a very small amount of money to land a fully serviced, brand new 400+hp 4x4 on the drive!

Also need to take into account that the ppm for a company EV is 5p, so if doing a lot of business miles could end up considerably out of pocket on top of the £4-500 a month for the car if paying more than 15-20p per kWh for home charging?