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ash73 said:
The whole design looks sharp and it's got a proper boot:
The interior has a proper dash too, and the fit and finish will be leagues ahead of a wonky flatpack Tesla.
Not sure why anyone would buy a Model 3 over this.
EV prices are nuts though.
Styling is subjective, as is image, so there are 2 reasons people may go for the Tesla. The Tesla is also quicker, has more tech, longer range and the backup of the Supercharger network.The interior has a proper dash too, and the fit and finish will be leagues ahead of a wonky flatpack Tesla.
Not sure why anyone would buy a Model 3 over this.
EV prices are nuts though.
Personally I'd go for the Polestar 2 as would fit all of my needs and to my eyes is a better looking car and will certainly be better built, but can understand the appeal of the Tesla.
On the EV pricing thing, the Model 3 P does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds, has a panoramic roof, autopilot features and lots of other tech. Find me a brand new ICE powered car that offers all of that for £50k? The C63, RS4 and M3 are all slower and less well equipped yet retail at £60-65k+ without options.
SWoll said:
Styling is subjective, as is image, so there are 2 reasons people may go for the Tesla. The Tesla is also quicker, has more tech, longer range and the backup of the Supercharger network.
Maybe I'm just getting old, but 0-62 times and "quicker" just looks like willy-waving. The right amount of power to create a balanced car is more important to me. The tech thing isn't a convincing argument - P2 will have the next generation of ADAS which is just as good as Autopilot. Android in the car will be far better than Tesla's home-grown in car entertainment and control system. You can't even use your own Spotify account in a Tesla!The Supercharger network is good, but accounts for only a minority of public charging stations. I'm also unsure I like the proprietary nature of it. Fortunately the European spec Model 3 supports CCS. Public CCS chargers will massively outnumber Superchargers in a few years.
Don't get me wrong, the Model 3 is a great car, but it has too many compromises.
Sat in the car at Goodwood today and given a demo of the technology
- car looks great in the flesh they had two on show one of which you could sit inside
- quality of panel fit and paint excellent
- interior quality looked excellent the centre console between the seats is high so you sit in a bit of a cockpit type of feel.
-The graphics were excellent with 4 main areas of tile. Reaction to voice input seemed quick. Google maps and traffic info very clear.
- on entering a destination it shows what the remaining charge will be at the destination
- plenty of room in the rear
- boot holds just over 400 litre flat floor with good storage underneath. Small area at front is for charging cables. So not masses of room but adequate
- performance pack I was told could be around 5000 euros which I thought was a bit expensive although options look good
- glass roof nice but doesn’t open
- will charge at 150kw so you could get 80% charge in c 20 mins
- first U.K. cars to arrive June
Overall I was impressed quality of finish looks a lot superior to Tesla.
You can register for test drives which will start in January
- car looks great in the flesh they had two on show one of which you could sit inside
- quality of panel fit and paint excellent
- interior quality looked excellent the centre console between the seats is high so you sit in a bit of a cockpit type of feel.
-The graphics were excellent with 4 main areas of tile. Reaction to voice input seemed quick. Google maps and traffic info very clear.
- on entering a destination it shows what the remaining charge will be at the destination
- plenty of room in the rear
- boot holds just over 400 litre flat floor with good storage underneath. Small area at front is for charging cables. So not masses of room but adequate
- performance pack I was told could be around 5000 euros which I thought was a bit expensive although options look good
- glass roof nice but doesn’t open
- will charge at 150kw so you could get 80% charge in c 20 mins
- first U.K. cars to arrive June
Overall I was impressed quality of finish looks a lot superior to Tesla.
You can register for test drives which will start in January
ash73 said:
Folk who ordered a Model 3 must be reading that summary and thinking "oh s
t".
Time to switch your deposit across and join another queue!
Agree and it was a pre production model so they say there are areas they can still improve upon before production rolls outt".Time to switch your deposit across and join another queue!
One further point there is an opening in the rear seats for golf clubs etc
Also sat in the Polestar 1 and that had a fantastic finish but lacked the Google software which was Volvo based.
Signs are very encouraging now need to drive one!
Anyone who cancels orders just before delivery because a better EV has just been announced is going to end up never buying a car. The market is just advancing too fast at the moment.
By the time the Polestar 2 comes out in 2021 something better will have been announced for 2023 delivery.
By the time the Polestar 2 comes out in 2021 something better will have been announced for 2023 delivery.
Incidentally, there a good thread on the Polestar 2 ruunning on SpeakEV
https://www.speakev.com/threads/polestar-2.135312/
https://www.speakev.com/threads/polestar-2.135312/
In the reveal they had a pretty large dog in the boot and showed how the hatch opens. It looked more dog friendly than the model 3.
https://youtu.be/OzSXrLCaUTg?t=2603
https://youtu.be/OzSXrLCaUTg?t=2603
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