Polestar 2

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Witchfinder

6,250 posts

253 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Wired magazine says it's the best EV available now
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/polestar-2-review

jason61c

5,978 posts

175 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Witchfinder said:
Wired magazine says it's the best EV available now
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/polestar-2-review
Tesla owners inbound......

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aestetix1

868 posts

52 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Witchfinder said:
Wired magazine says it's the best EV available now
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/polestar-2-review
It does look like a lovely car. The decision to go with Android is great and overall it's the complete package.

SWoll

18,478 posts

259 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Where do you guys think Polestar are going to pull the most sales from with the P2 guys?

Lots of competition with the Model 3 mentioned but I do wonder whether it's more of an iPace/E-Tron rival in many ways, especially when you look at leasing costs and what has been prioritised?


jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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SWoll said:
Where do you guys think Polestar are going to pull the most sales from with the P2 guys?

Lots of competition with the Model 3 mentioned but I do wonder whether it's more of an iPace/E-Tron rival in many ways, especially when you look at leasing costs and what has been prioritised?
BMW 3/A4/C-class surely?

EddieSteadyGo

12,048 posts

204 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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jamoor said:
BMW 3/A4/C-class surely?
I agree. Anyone who is renewing an existing company car lease this year and can switch to zero BIK, or a company owner who can get zero BIK and get the company to buy the car is going to have to look very carefully at one.

The potential market size for Polestar (and Tesla) is going to massive this year.


jason61c

5,978 posts

175 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Exactly that. I dropped out of the company scheme, ignored Tesla's for a while(un-normal dislike for musk), decided to grow up, gave a model 3 a whirl, wasn't 100% sold, waited on some polestar details, then took the plunge. Glad I held out.

Its bonkers that its 0% bik. in a good way.

Wonder where the BIK will be in 3 years time.

jonty88

24 posts

85 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Hi folks,

Just doing the numbers on a company car. We’ve got the ipace on good deals (540 net for a loaded HSE) however these are stock cars. Liking the idea of a Polestar but interior size may be an issue - does anyone know where I can view one of these? Are they showcasing them in a Volvo dealership?
Cheers

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

253 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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jonty88 said:
... does anyone know where I can view one of these? Are they showcasing them in a Volvo dealership?
Polestar will have a few smaller retail stores in key locations - London, Birmingham, Manchester... But none of them have opened yet. Volvo dealers will likely be involved in maintenance, but they won't be holding stock.

There was a roadshow last year where I got to sit in the car. What are your concerns space-wise? I might be able to answer your questions.

SWoll

18,478 posts

259 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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EddieSteadyGo said:
jamoor said:
BMW 3/A4/C-class surely?
I agree. Anyone who is renewing an existing company car lease this year and can switch to zero BIK, or a company owner who can get zero BIK and get the company to buy the car is going to have to look very carefully at one.

The potential market size for Polestar (and Tesla) is going to massive this year.
Question for me would be is it a bit too 'Volvo' to draw drivers from those marques in large numbers? Volvo styling, interiors etc. have always been popular with a certain subset of buyers and not sure badging it Polestar will change that?

Will be interesting to see how successful they are at drawing those buyers, especially with a lot of CC drivers doing enough miles for supercharging to come into the equation.


jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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SWoll said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
jamoor said:
BMW 3/A4/C-class surely?
I agree. Anyone who is renewing an existing company car lease this year and can switch to zero BIK, or a company owner who can get zero BIK and get the company to buy the car is going to have to look very carefully at one.

The potential market size for Polestar (and Tesla) is going to massive this year.
Question for me would be is it a bit too 'Volvo' to draw drivers from those marques in large numbers? Volvo styling, interiors etc. have always been popular with a certain subset of buyers and not sure badging it Polestar will change that?

Will be interesting to see how successful they are at drawing those buyers, especially with a lot of CC drivers doing enough miles for supercharging to come into the equation.
0% BIK and 3p per mile for private journeys and no one will care about wether the interior is Volvo or BMW

EddieSteadyGo

12,048 posts

204 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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jamoor said:
SWoll said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
jamoor said:
BMW 3/A4/C-class surely?
I agree. Anyone who is renewing an existing company car lease this year and can switch to zero BIK, or a company owner who can get zero BIK and get the company to buy the car is going to have to look very carefully at one.

The potential market size for Polestar (and Tesla) is going to massive this year.
Question for me would be is it a bit too 'Volvo' to draw drivers from those marques in large numbers? Volvo styling, interiors etc. have always been popular with a certain subset of buyers and not sure badging it Polestar will change that?

Will be interesting to see how successful they are at drawing those buyers, especially with a lot of CC drivers doing enough miles for supercharging to come into the equation.
0% BIK and 3p per mile for private journeys and no one will care about wether the interior is Volvo or BMW
Yes, plus 0-60 in 4 and a bit seconds, so it is a quick car by any normal definition, which I think would influence quite a few people as well who might otherwise be driving a 320d.

SWoll

18,478 posts

259 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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EddieSteadyGo said:
jamoor said:
SWoll said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
jamoor said:
BMW 3/A4/C-class surely?
I agree. Anyone who is renewing an existing company car lease this year and can switch to zero BIK, or a company owner who can get zero BIK and get the company to buy the car is going to have to look very carefully at one.

The potential market size for Polestar (and Tesla) is going to massive this year.
Question for me would be is it a bit too 'Volvo' to draw drivers from those marques in large numbers? Volvo styling, interiors etc. have always been popular with a certain subset of buyers and not sure badging it Polestar will change that?

Will be interesting to see how successful they are at drawing those buyers, especially with a lot of CC drivers doing enough miles for supercharging to come into the equation.
0% BIK and 3p per mile for private journeys and no one will care about wether the interior is Volvo or BMW
Yes, plus 0-60 in 4 and a bit seconds, so it is a quick car by any normal definition, which I think would influence quite a few people as well who might otherwise be driving a 320d.
Still a £50k car so not sure it's suddenly going to start replacing 2 litre diesels on the company car list as a lot more expensive to lease.

Anyway, my point was will Polestar be anything more than a niche brand with Tesla being so well established and having multiple models (SR/LR/P), especially with it being so close in concept to most Volvo's?

aestetix1

868 posts

52 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Witchfinder said:
Polestar will have a few smaller retail stores in key locations - London, Birmingham, Manchester... But none of them have opened yet. Volvo dealers will likely be involved in maintenance, but they won't be holding stock.
I really wish they wouldn't do that, or at least make sure the London one is reasonably accessible because even with free returns it's a pain to reject a brand new car.

You would think it's a pain for them too, they end up with a nearly new but definitely used car that they have to sell at a discount.

jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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SWoll said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
jamoor said:
SWoll said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
jamoor said:
BMW 3/A4/C-class surely?
I agree. Anyone who is renewing an existing company car lease this year and can switch to zero BIK, or a company owner who can get zero BIK and get the company to buy the car is going to have to look very carefully at one.

The potential market size for Polestar (and Tesla) is going to massive this year.
Question for me would be is it a bit too 'Volvo' to draw drivers from those marques in large numbers? Volvo styling, interiors etc. have always been popular with a certain subset of buyers and not sure badging it Polestar will change that?

Will be interesting to see how successful they are at drawing those buyers, especially with a lot of CC drivers doing enough miles for supercharging to come into the equation.
0% BIK and 3p per mile for private journeys and no one will care about wether the interior is Volvo or BMW
Yes, plus 0-60 in 4 and a bit seconds, so it is a quick car by any normal definition, which I think would influence quite a few people as well who might otherwise be driving a 320d.
Still a £50k car so not sure it's suddenly going to start replacing 2 litre diesels on the company car list as a lot more expensive to lease.

Anyway, my point was will Polestar be anything more than a niche brand with Tesla being so well established and having multiple models (SR/LR/P), especially with it being so close in concept to most Volvo's?
Is there a budget base model coming?

Companies will jump at the chance if they pay for fuel. The savings are there.

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

253 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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SWoll said:
Anyway, my point was will Polestar be anything more than a niche brand ...
Polestar are expecting to make 50k units of the Polestar 2 per year. They're a tech leader for the Volvo/Geely group, and intended to be a niche premium brand. What you see now on Polestar cars will preview features and design that come to Volvo and Geely cars.

ZesPak

24,438 posts

197 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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jamoor said:
Is there a budget base model coming?

Companies will jump at the chance if they pay for fuel. The savings are there.
This. Accountants look at the complete cost, not just retail. Fuel savings can indeed push it over the edge.

jonty88

24 posts

85 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Witchfinder said:
jonty88 said:
... does anyone know where I can view one of these? Are they showcasing them in a Volvo dealership?
Polestar will have a few smaller retail stores in key locations - London, Birmingham, Manchester... But none of them have opened yet. Volvo dealers will likely be involved in maintenance, but they won't be holding stock.

There was a roadshow last year where I got to sit in the car. What are your concerns space-wise? I might be able to answer your questions.
Thanks - coming out of a 5 series touring with a family of 4. Recognise it is smaller, can Easily get by in an ipace so just wondering how much smaller it will be.

Also waiting on the Bjorn test to see its real word motorway range.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Bjorn said 2 weeks until his P2 videos.

jason61c

5,978 posts

175 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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jonty88 said:
Thanks - coming out of a 5 series touring with a family of 4. Recognise it is smaller, can Easily get by in an ipace so just wondering how much smaller it will be.

Also waiting on the Bjorn test to see its real word motorway range.
Looking at the vids, loads of room as long as your kids are under 5,11