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Bobtherallyfan said:
Smiljan said:
It does look good in that colour, btw what is that oblong shaped panel just below the Honda badge on the front?
Its the radar cover according to the handbook 
SWoll said:
It's a small city car that most owners will charge at home overnight I would suggest. 100+ mile range should be more than enough?
At the moment it's looking more like 50 miles on the motorway.I don't disagree with you, I had a couple of Leafs, but in 2020 and for £29k it's a hard sell.
jjwilde said:
SWoll said:
It's a small city car that most owners will charge at home overnight I would suggest. 100+ mile range should be more than enough?
Not at the price!Don't they realise people manage perfectly well with 1st gen Zoe's and Nissan Leafs as they suited their needs. The price is irrelevant.
I think that Honda would like to make a parallel with the first iPhone. When the iPhone 1 came out, there were glaring gaps in functionality compared to other phones. There was no physical keyboard, I believe there was no 3G, battery life was not the best. But people bought it because it was a wonderful piece of design that felt really good to own, to hold and to use. It was emotional appeal.
This is how Honda sees the e. Honda reckon that most people will buy it because they love the design and they love how it makes them feel. Those people will care less about the range, unless the short range makes it unusable.
Does anyone know how well they are selling, either in the UK or globally? Are Honda UK meeting their sales targets? I have not seen one on the road, but that's not surprising given that it's a niche car and it's only just launched.
This is how Honda sees the e. Honda reckon that most people will buy it because they love the design and they love how it makes them feel. Those people will care less about the range, unless the short range makes it unusable.
Does anyone know how well they are selling, either in the UK or globally? Are Honda UK meeting their sales targets? I have not seen one on the road, but that's not surprising given that it's a niche car and it's only just launched.
Smiljan said:
I read this a lot, EV owners are always banging on about range and why it isn't important as the average daily use is 30 miles and no one needs 200 mile range cars. Then you get the "other" EV owners who ridicule any EV with 100 mile real world range.
Don't they realise people manage perfectly well with 1st gen Zoe's and Nissan Leafs as they suited their needs. The price is irrelevant.
I did manage with a first generation Leaf but that was in 2014 and now it's six years later in 2020. The market has changed, you can get a Leaf 40 or MG ZS EV for around £22k, or a Zoe or a used Kona/Niro.Don't they realise people manage perfectly well with 1st gen Zoe's and Nissan Leafs as they suited their needs. The price is irrelevant.
I'd probably have still seriously considered getting the Honda if we were not in a recession with brexit due to hit in less than six months. Now isn't the time to be buying rapidly depreciating luxury items, especially since I expect these will have significant price cuts by early next year.
I do worry about Honda.
This was such a good looking concept which seemed to generate a hype around a mainstream Honda product not seen for years.
It seems to appeal to a much younger potential customer (I can’t see Ethel and Reg getting on with those screens!) which Honda could really do with.
Yet it comes to market way over priced and under performing (on paper) to almost all the other rivals and is stymied from the start.
The concept was compared to the original Civic, which gave the market a really reliable and affordable car for the masses. The e, in reality, is an expensive car for a very small number of early adopters.
As a bold new era for Honda and their halo product for entry into full EV, I wish it would create some bigger waves than I think this will.
This was such a good looking concept which seemed to generate a hype around a mainstream Honda product not seen for years.
It seems to appeal to a much younger potential customer (I can’t see Ethel and Reg getting on with those screens!) which Honda could really do with.
Yet it comes to market way over priced and under performing (on paper) to almost all the other rivals and is stymied from the start.
The concept was compared to the original Civic, which gave the market a really reliable and affordable car for the masses. The e, in reality, is an expensive car for a very small number of early adopters.
As a bold new era for Honda and their halo product for entry into full EV, I wish it would create some bigger waves than I think this will.
Smiljan said:
I read this a lot, EV owners are always banging on about range and why it isn't important as the average daily use is 30 miles and no one needs 200 mile range cars. Then you get the "other" EV owners who ridicule any EV with 100 mile real world range.
A small, short range city car is perfectly fine. The benefit is that it will be cheap. This really isn't cheap. In fact I'd call the pricing "avaricious" considering the battery and the size.A more suspicious man might even suggest Honda have set this up to fail because they're balls-deep in hydrogen.
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