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We've had ours nearly a year now.
We use it only for localish journeys, the further being my daily commute, of 40 miles... so range has been irrelevant and we just charge at home on the 3 pin.
Inside it feels really high quality and well built. When driving it's ride is amazing, really compliant. But equally feels small and darty, and while slow to 60, the initial pick up is plenty fast enough. And the turning circle as said, is just silly.
A few niggles with usability:
We use it only for localish journeys, the further being my daily commute, of 40 miles... so range has been irrelevant and we just charge at home on the 3 pin.
Inside it feels really high quality and well built. When driving it's ride is amazing, really compliant. But equally feels small and darty, and while slow to 60, the initial pick up is plenty fast enough. And the turning circle as said, is just silly.
A few niggles with usability:
- The one pedal button that needs to be pressed at the start of every journey, but worse still is disengaged and needs to be pressed again if you use cruise control.
- The Lane Assist actually does a half reasonable job of guiding the car along a DC, but has a tendancy to drop out and leave it to you, but with next to no visual or audible prompt.
- The app is hopeless. Not that you can do much with it, but it really is hopeless.
- Never got the phone as a key feature to work
- Opening the door always seems to need two pulls, which is odd.
- Walk up unlock is great, but doesn't do walkaway locking.
I'm seriously considering one of these on my work salary sacrifice scheme. It would suit me perfectly for my commute (starting to worry about commuting through the blackwall tunnel three times a week in a battered twenty year old Rover) and for supermarket journeys and is the single EV that stirs anything in my soul that makes me 'want' it. I could get an E Advance for 340 quid a month or so on a 5k/36m lease. Which seems expensive for what it is, and the bigger problem is I would still need to keep three cars. TVR, Honda E and a third car for journeys that I wouldn't want to take the TVR out for (wet/salt/boring) but for which would be too far for the Honda E (even a weekend day trip to Dover from the SE London suburb I live in would be too far without stopping to charge). I know that literally any other EV makes more sense - e.g. an e-208 or something which is cheaper and twice the range - and could mean if I wanted to get rid of the third car I could. But this is the only one I want....
The Honda was the only one I wanted too, and I still absolutely love it every time I get in it. It is less useful now I’m not in London though, and I think even in London it would be pretty necessary to be a three car household if you also had a sports car.
I have my doubts that the next one is going have all that much more range. Honda, and Japanese manufacturers in general, can be pretty stubborn when they decide on what’s right or suitable in their eyes…
I have my doubts that the next one is going have all that much more range. Honda, and Japanese manufacturers in general, can be pretty stubborn when they decide on what’s right or suitable in their eyes…
Yes the battery pack is small but it also appears in the Madza MX-30, and I haven't seen the same level of angst on range for that car yet. As I see it the e is a Japanese domestic market car that simply doesn't match the market expectations of Western Europeans, it is simply a statement of intent whilst Honda play catchup on battery IP, being the Product Director at Honda UK must be a poisoned chalice...
Paul578 said:
Yes the battery pack is small but it also appears in the Madza MX-30, and I haven't seen the same level of angst on range for that car yet.
In Autocar the one they had (MX) was basically used as a local run car only as they soon realised it wasn't up to medium length journeys. aestetix1 said:
Bigger battery may be coming. There is an SUV version of e due in the next year or two which will presumably have a bigger battery, and the e may benefit from the same upgrade.
I don't want an SUV version 
There are enough bloated SUV EVs. That's the reason I wanted the Honda E in the first place ...
I REALLY wanted an e - test drove all the usual suspects and it was the only one I wanted. But I just couldn't reconcile the cost/range, having just got out of a Tesla that sat on the drive for long periods I just wanted cheap.
I eventually ended up with a Seat Mii electric - got it on a lease for £160 per month and thought that'll do.
And what a revelation, its a hoot to drive. Lacks plenty of stuff compared to the e of course, but I've really fallen for it. And the range is better than the e.
Anyone considering a small ev should definitely try one imo.
I eventually ended up with a Seat Mii electric - got it on a lease for £160 per month and thought that'll do.
And what a revelation, its a hoot to drive. Lacks plenty of stuff compared to the e of course, but I've really fallen for it. And the range is better than the e.
Anyone considering a small ev should definitely try one imo.
Cascade360 said:
I'm seriously considering one of these on my work salary sacrifice scheme. It would suit me perfectly for my commute (starting to worry about commuting through the blackwall tunnel three times a week in a battered twenty year old Rover) and for supermarket journeys and is the single EV that stirs anything in my soul that makes me 'want' it. I could get an E Advance for 340 quid a month or so on a 5k/36m lease. Which seems expensive for what it is, and the bigger problem is I would still need to keep three cars. TVR, Honda E and a third car for journeys that I wouldn't want to take the TVR out for (wet/salt/boring) but for which would be too far for the Honda E (even a weekend day trip to Dover from the SE London suburb I live in would be too far without stopping to charge). I know that literally any other EV makes more sense - e.g. an e-208 or something which is cheaper and twice the range - and could mean if I wanted to get rid of the third car I could. But this is the only one I want....
I did have a 3 day test drive in one, and loved it! But it was the range thing that stopped us getting one as we do medium journeys with most of the 50 plus miles on a motorway, and it's the highspeed driving that kills the range. On one journey I was on the motorway and the range was down to 20 miles and it was still 21 back to the office, so I came of the motorway and took the A road through town which was only 15 miles but 20 minutes longer, when I got to the office the onboard computer said I had 30 miles range. It loves town driving but hates motorways, So if you take it easy from SE London to Dover then in theroy you should make it there and back. Remember it can fast charge so you may need a 15 minute coffe break on the way back for some extra juice.Inverness said:
I did have a 3 day test drive in one, and loved it! But it was the range thing that stopped us getting one as we do medium journeys with most of the 50 plus miles on a motorway, and it's the highspeed driving that kills the range. On one journey I was on the motorway and the range was down to 20 miles and it was still 21 back to the office, so I came of the motorway and took the A road through town which was only 15 miles but 20 minutes longer, when I got to the office the onboard computer said I had 30 miles range. It loves town driving but hates motorways, So if you take it easy from SE London to Dover then in theroy you should make it there and back. Remember it can fast charge so you may need a 15 minute coffe break on the way back for some extra juice.
Fast charging is a good point, but it just seems a stress too far for a 350 quid a month outlay. Might as well keep my old cars that don't have this problem ...Cascade360 said:
Fast charging is a good point, but it just seems a stress too far for a 350 quid a month outlay. Might as well keep my old cars that don't have this problem ...
Or wait for for the presumably coming refresh when they figure out a way to squeeze in something like a 50kwh battery and reduce the massive reserve margin on the battery which is the main reason why its quoted range is so poor.Cascade360 said:
I'm seriously considering one of these on my work salary sacrifice scheme. It would suit me perfectly for my commute (starting to worry about commuting through the blackwall tunnel three times a week in a battered twenty year old Rover) and for supermarket journeys and is the single EV that stirs anything in my soul that makes me 'want' it. I could get an E Advance for 340 quid a month or so on a 5k/36m lease. Which seems expensive for what it is, and the bigger problem is I would still need to keep three cars. TVR, Honda E and a third car for journeys that I wouldn't want to take the TVR out for (wet/salt/boring) but for which would be too far for the Honda E (even a weekend day trip to Dover from the SE London suburb I live in would be too far without stopping to charge). I know that literally any other EV makes more sense - e.g. an e-208 or something which is cheaper and twice the range - and could mean if I wanted to get rid of the third car I could. But this is the only one I want....
Exactly the same page I was on. The only EV (apart from the Taycan) which gets me excited. Had an overnight test drive, loved everything about it except the range. My parents live 80 miles from me and charging points are limited where they are, so it just wouldn’t work well enough itcaptainslow said:
Exactly the same page I was on. The only EV (apart from the Taycan) which gets me excited. Had an overnight test drive, loved everything about it except the range. My parents live 80 miles from me and charging points are limited where they are, so it just wouldn’t work well enough
Wait it can't do 160 miles? 
ZesPak said:
itcaptainslow said:
Exactly the same page I was on. The only EV (apart from the Taycan) which gets me excited. Had an overnight test drive, loved everything about it except the range. My parents live 80 miles from me and charging points are limited where they are, so it just wouldn’t work well enough
Wait it can't do 160 miles? 
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