Discussion
sixor8 said:
There's over 100 Honda E on Autotrader, and the cheapest is a '20 reg at £24k. With its size and low range, they'd need to be good, because there are plenty of alternatives such as Nissan Leaf, VW eGolf and Up, and Fiat 500e, some even newer, for under £20k.
Yes those prices are still very high, lots of dealers living in lala land with £30k+ listings. dobly said:
The Honda E is an urban car - not a mile muncher. It works best in cities / towns / conurbations, hence it has a small, light battery.
Not for everyone, but will work for some usage patterns.
Yeah, true; when I was leasing a cheap 24kwh Leaf as a third car for a city runabout, it worked great for that reason. But I think now the Honda-e is too expensive for its range, which is presumably why Honda are no longer making them. I mean, apart from the looks, it would be far more sensible to lease/buy a cheap Zoe which has nearly twice the battery size and works as both a city runabout and a normal car.Not for everyone, but will work for some usage patterns.
dobly said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
… Honda are no longer making them…
As far as I can tell from Honda Japan, they are still manufacturing the e - their website quotes a 1 month lead time from order to delivery at present.https://ev-database.org/uk/car/1171/Honda-e
ashenfie said:
It's a very cult car concept and one that I thought would go down well in Japan. BMW are moving away from the i3 in favour of more bland main stream and I guess Honda will do the same.
The design isn't the problem with the E, it's the range/battery size/price. If it does get killed off or replaced with a plain looking E-Jazz it would be a shame but an E-Jazz would probably sell in the numbers they want for the E.Our e has been showing 70 odd miles of range but in the summer it was way over 100.
With us planning on using it to tow the caravan to Botswana next summer this may be a problem… oh hang on…
It is what it is - a slightly silly city/second-car EV. Makes no financial sense buying one if you just want an EV. Brilliant funky design, suspension designed by someone who cared and expensive because of it. Comes with Michelin PS4 from factory! Range is secondary to the widgets and screens and clever lights and retro feel. Brown seatbelts can’t be cheap either.
It rattles occasionally and I worry about getting the blue paint fixed if it ever gets damaged but other than that it’s a fun EV to own, and rare too. It seems to be a conversation starter - people are quite enthusiastic about it, even more so when you show them the fish tank
Renault Zoe would be the choice for the range anxious if you’ve only got one car, but it’s boooooring.
We had a 24kw Leaf and that was fine. We had a 27kw Soul and that was fine too. Pain in the arse started with trying to be too smart, buying a Tesla and thinking we could do long distances in it.
With us planning on using it to tow the caravan to Botswana next summer this may be a problem… oh hang on…
It is what it is - a slightly silly city/second-car EV. Makes no financial sense buying one if you just want an EV. Brilliant funky design, suspension designed by someone who cared and expensive because of it. Comes with Michelin PS4 from factory! Range is secondary to the widgets and screens and clever lights and retro feel. Brown seatbelts can’t be cheap either.
It rattles occasionally and I worry about getting the blue paint fixed if it ever gets damaged but other than that it’s a fun EV to own, and rare too. It seems to be a conversation starter - people are quite enthusiastic about it, even more so when you show them the fish tank
Renault Zoe would be the choice for the range anxious if you’ve only got one car, but it’s boooooring.
We had a 24kw Leaf and that was fine. We had a 27kw Soul and that was fine too. Pain in the arse started with trying to be too smart, buying a Tesla and thinking we could do long distances in it.
ajprice said:
ashenfie said:
It's a very cult car concept and one that I thought would go down well in Japan. BMW are moving away from the i3 in favour of more bland main stream and I guess Honda will do the same.
The design isn't the problem with the E, it's the range/battery size/price. If it does get killed off or replaced with a plain looking E-Jazz it would be a shame but an E-Jazz would probably sell in the numbers they want for the E.ashenfie said:
ajprice said:
ashenfie said:
It's a very cult car concept and one that I thought would go down well in Japan. BMW are moving away from the i3 in favour of more bland main stream and I guess Honda will do the same.
The design isn't the problem with the E, it's the range/battery size/price. If it does get killed off or replaced with a plain looking E-Jazz it would be a shame but an E-Jazz would probably sell in the numbers they want for the E.If the daily mileage is never going to be exceeded then it's not an issue if every morning the car is charged to 100%. If on the odd occasion it is, then a quick charge is all that is required.
It really isn't an issue if you buy the right EV/vehicle for the right job.
epsilonvaz said:
A 50kwh+ battery would solve a lot of problems
Yeah, the e-up facelift resulted in the battery size increasing from 18.7kWh to 36.8kWh, effectively doubling the range. If the Honda e had a similar upgrade I'd be interested but, right now, it's just way too hard to justify.Gassing Station | EV and Alternative Fuels | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff