Which home charging point?

Author
Discussion

miniman

25,034 posts

263 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
quotequote all
Has anyone had an installation where an external supply cable has been needed between the meter box and the charger unit?

JonnyVTEC

3,008 posts

176 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
quotequote all
I would guess atleast 50% of installs are like that.

Lily the Pink

5,783 posts

171 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
quotequote all
miniman said:
Has anyone had an installation where an external supply cable has been needed between the meter box and the charger unit?
What do you mean by "external supply cable" ? I had to have about 20M of SWA (armoured) cable for mine.

delta0

2,355 posts

107 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
quotequote all
I’m fortunate that mine is going to be a hidden cable. The supply is directly behind the wall the charger is going to be mounted on. Only going to need about 1m of cable.

C63sxb

50 posts

38 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
quotequote all
Lily the Pink said:
Absolutely essential IMV in that sort of case to get them to visit and survey first.
That’s what we do, wouldn’t even contemplate pricing a job without a survey

miniman

25,034 posts

263 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
quotequote all
Lily the Pink said:
miniman said:
Has anyone had an installation where an external supply cable has been needed between the meter box and the charger unit?
What do you mean by "external supply cable" ? I had to have about 20M of SWA (armoured) cable for mine.
Not 20m but certainly 10, through the front garden.

Sheepshanks

32,869 posts

120 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
quotequote all
Installation seems such a nightmare I’m thinking of cancelling having our builder put the supply cable through the house (it needs to run from one side to the other) while our refurb is being done.

If it was £100 I wouldn’t be bothered but he wants £500 just for placing the cable. It could run around the outside wall if ever needed.

Frimley111R

15,697 posts

235 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
quotequote all
Sheepshanks said:
Installation seems such a nightmare I’m thinking of cancelling having our builder put the supply cable through the house (it needs to run from one side to the other) while our refurb is being done.

If it was £100 I wouldn’t be bothered but he wants £500 just for placing the cable. It could run around the outside wall if ever needed.
What's the problem? Is this the one with a run right through the house?

Sheepshanks

32,869 posts

120 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
quotequote all
Frimley111R said:
What's the problem? Is this the one with a run right through the house?
Firstly that he wants £500 for running a cable through the house (which will be a shell) and secondly that, if it comes to need a charger in a few years the installer may not want to use a cable that someone else installed and / or there’ll be some issue with space where the supply / meter / CU are - it’s an older house so they’re all together in a cupboard in the kitchen.

ruggedscotty

5,632 posts

210 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
quotequote all
Sheepshanks said:
Frimley111R said:
What's the problem? Is this the one with a run right through the house?
Firstly that he wants £500 for running a cable through the house (which will be a shell) and secondly that, if it comes to need a charger in a few years the installer may not want to use a cable that someone else installed and / or there’ll be some issue with space where the supply / meter / CU are - it’s an older house so they’re all together in a cupboard in the kitchen.
if the installer doesnt want to use the cable then you get another installer, simples.

Just keep the paperwork of the cable and the route it goes, how it is installed, type of cable and any junction boxes etc along the route. Ive no bother in using another installed cable as long as it is known and been properly installed. Id fully checked it aswell before using it. this may not want to use excuse is someone trying to skin you.

dino_jr

355 posts

177 months

Sunday 17th April 2022
quotequote all
I think I’m out of luck here, but trying to confirm if a charger install is feasible… Who do I contact for advice, the Council?

I live at #30 and so I have a garage and driveway but not attached to my house, no electricity there. How can I install a charger with #31 in the way? There's a Manhole cover in the path at "X", has a BT logo on it. Is there likely to be electricity to tap into in there, or just phone lines?

Houses are blue, garages yellow, driveways grey.


TheRainMaker

6,363 posts

243 months

Sunday 17th April 2022
quotequote all
Who owns the green bit?

How well do you get on with next door?

ZesPak

24,439 posts

197 months

Sunday 17th April 2022
quotequote all
Agreed, I'd try and work something out with 31 to see if you can get power from your house there?

Condi

17,283 posts

172 months

Sunday 17th April 2022
quotequote all
With number 31's permission then out the front of your house, under their garden, across the grass and emerging near your garage. Would guess the green area near the garages is simply communal land, or highways verge etc, in which case do it quickly and quietly! As long as the neighbours don't complain then nobody will ever know.

To make it worthwhile for number 31, maybe offer to put a cable from their house in the same trench to their garage, and at the very least they can have electric in the garage.

dino_jr

355 posts

177 months

Sunday 17th April 2022
quotequote all
The green grass is public land I guess. I'll check my house deeds.
No31 is open to running cables around his house but his front and back gardens are patio'd, no easy way to bury cables there.

Is the BT Manhole cover a no-go, you think? Where else do people access underground High current cables for "splicing" into?

TheRainMaker

6,363 posts

243 months

Sunday 17th April 2022
quotequote all
dino_jr said:
Is the BT Manhole cover a no-go, you think? Where else do people access underground High current cables for "splicing" into?
100% a no go, the only place to get an electric feed from is your house supply.

Condi

17,283 posts

172 months

Sunday 17th April 2022
quotequote all
dino_jr said:
Where else do people access underground High current cables for "splicing" into?
People don't "splice" into high current cables for a whole host of reasons....

1) it's illegal
2) it's illegal
and
3) it's illegal.

If you really wanted you could contact your local DNO (eg Western Power, UK Power Networks, SSEN etc) and get them to quote for a new connection. Depending on distance from the road you're probably looking about £5k.

Frimley111R

15,697 posts

235 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
quotequote all
Sheepshanks said:
Frimley111R said:
What's the problem? Is this the one with a run right through the house?
Firstly that he wants £500 for running a cable through the house (which will be a shell) and secondly that, if it comes to need a charger in a few years the installer may not want to use a cable that someone else installed and / or there’ll be some issue with space where the supply / meter / CU are - it’s an older house so they’re all together in a cupboard in the kitchen.
Ok.

As long as it the right size cable (and ideally one with a data cable running alongside it or as part of it) it should be fine. Installers love an install where the cable is already in place!

Greenmantle

1,284 posts

109 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
quotequote all
Just about to pull the trigger and buy direct from Myenergi.

"Zappi type 2 tethered in white". £799.00 (already got a quote from an electrician to supply and install). All in all total under £1200. Not interested in nickel and diming this since the EV will be the daily drive and must not let me down.

Just spoke to the sales person:
(1) 6 weeks lead time
(2) this is a updated version which allows connection directly to your wifi (I assumed that all SMART chargers did that anyway so a little worrying).

So is this a Yes or No?


Frimley111R

15,697 posts

235 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
quotequote all
Greenmantle said:
Just about to pull the trigger and buy direct from Myenergi.

"Zappi type 2 tethered in white". £799.00 (already got a quote from an electrician to supply and install). All in all total under £1200. Not interested in nickel and diming this since the EV will be the daily drive and must not let me down.

Just spoke to the sales person:
(1) 6 weeks lead time
(2) this is a updated version which allows connection directly to your wifi (I assumed that all SMART chargers did that anyway so a little worrying).

So is this a Yes or No?
Seems ok. Lead time seems lengthy.

It could connect you your wifi before but needed a separate hub to go with it, now it is integrated (like every other charger).

It's a nice unit but quite large, otherwise there's no reason to 'No'.