Which home charging point?
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So I've now spoken to two companies about EV chargers. One contacted me by FaceTime and I showed them around by video. They've given me the circa £1200 quotes.
Today I had a very nice chat with Frimley 111R's colleague. They detail they ask for gives me confidence that they'll be really prepared if they come round to do the install. I've just got to take a lot of photos now...
Today I had a very nice chat with Frimley 111R's colleague. They detail they ask for gives me confidence that they'll be really prepared if they come round to do the install. I've just got to take a lot of photos now...
rog007 said:
thebraketester said:
I am looking to pay 1400ish all in for the Andersen because it's the only one that doesn't look like utter crap.
100% satisfaction here with the Andersen, both for aesthetics and usability/reliability. Had it some 5 months now (connecting to a Model Y).Is it possible to get charger cabling installed without the actual charger?
Reason for asking is that where our cars are parked (and based on a neighbour's install) cabling would have to run down the side of the property (navigate a garden gate) then pass down the garden wall for ten metres to where the cars are parked.
Long term we'll get one or two EVs but totally undecided on which car at this point.
Short term we're getting work done on the garden, including the strip of grass at the side of our house, and garden that sits outside the garden wall. So I'm thinking, can we install cable when we get this work done and have the cable run underground, out of sight to the car spaces. Then get things connected up when we make EV decisions further down the line.
Does that make sense? Seems a waste to miss this opportunity to hide the cable when we're having work done that would easily hide it.
Reason for asking is that where our cars are parked (and based on a neighbour's install) cabling would have to run down the side of the property (navigate a garden gate) then pass down the garden wall for ten metres to where the cars are parked.
Long term we'll get one or two EVs but totally undecided on which car at this point.
Short term we're getting work done on the garden, including the strip of grass at the side of our house, and garden that sits outside the garden wall. So I'm thinking, can we install cable when we get this work done and have the cable run underground, out of sight to the car spaces. Then get things connected up when we make EV decisions further down the line.
Does that make sense? Seems a waste to miss this opportunity to hide the cable when we're having work done that would easily hide it.
Edited by Hackney on Wednesday 5th October 23:33
rog007 said:
thebraketester said:
I am looking to pay 1400ish all in for the Andersen because it's the only one that doesn't look like utter crap.
100% satisfaction here with the Andersen, both for aesthetics and usability/reliability. Had it some 5 months now (connecting to a Model Y).I know Andersen didn’t have any of that 3 years ago. Not sure if they do now?
On the looks think..l know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I’m no Jony Ive, but I don’t think the Zappi is desperately ugly!
I do love that the cable wraps around neatly - we charge anything from 1 to 4 times a week, that is a lot of faffing about if the cable isn’t tethered!
Hackney said:
Is it possible to get charger cabling installed without the actual charger?
Reason for asking is that where are cars are parked (and based on a neighbour's install) cabling would have to run down the side of the property (navigate a garden gate) then pass down the garden wall for ten metres to where the cars are parked.
Long term we'll get one or two EVs but totally undecided on which car at this point.
Short term we're getting work done on the garden, including the strip of grass at the side of our house, and garden that sits outside the garden wall. So I'm thinking, can we install cable when we get this work done and have the cable run underground, out of sight to the car spaces. Then get things connected up when we make EV decisions further down the line.
Does that make sense? Seems a waste to miss this opportunity to hide the cable when we're having work done that would easily hide it.
I can't help with this but interested in knowing if a charging cable can be that long. Our parking spaces are 20m away from the house, down a path that crosses the neighbours land, and I'm unsure if it's feasible to have a charging cable that long? Reason for asking is that where are cars are parked (and based on a neighbour's install) cabling would have to run down the side of the property (navigate a garden gate) then pass down the garden wall for ten metres to where the cars are parked.
Long term we'll get one or two EVs but totally undecided on which car at this point.
Short term we're getting work done on the garden, including the strip of grass at the side of our house, and garden that sits outside the garden wall. So I'm thinking, can we install cable when we get this work done and have the cable run underground, out of sight to the car spaces. Then get things connected up when we make EV decisions further down the line.
Does that make sense? Seems a waste to miss this opportunity to hide the cable when we're having work done that would easily hide it.
SpunkyGlory said:
I can't help with this but interested in knowing if a charging cable can be that long. Our parking spaces are 20m away from the house, down a path that crosses the neighbours land, and I'm unsure if it's feasible to have a charging cable that long?
Yes, if the cable has to run from the electricity "box" on the front of the house (of course the gas one is closer by 5m) then the total distance from box to charger could be 25m, perhaps more.Test driving a Polestar 2 shortly, I'll see if the salesperson can give me any advice. Could be a short test drive depending on the answer.
Hackney said:
SpunkyGlory said:
I can't help with this but interested in knowing if a charging cable can be that long. Our parking spaces are 20m away from the house, down a path that crosses the neighbours land, and I'm unsure if it's feasible to have a charging cable that long?
Yes, if the cable has to run from the electricity "box" on the front of the house (of course the gas one is closer by 5m) then the total distance from box to charger could be 25m, perhaps more.Test driving a Polestar 2 shortly, I'll see if the salesperson can give me any advice. Could be a short test drive depending on the answer.
Thinking of proceeding with my cheapest quote so far, £550 for an EO untethered wallbox.
Really like the proper Tesla home charger though, but I'm aware these need independent PEN fault detection, which adds a fair bit to the cost.
Hackney said:
Yes, if the cable has to run from the electricity "box" on the front of the house (of course the gas one is closer by 5m) then the total distance from box to charger could be 25m, perhaps more.
Test driving a Polestar 2 shortly, I'll see if the salesperson can give me any advice. Could be a short test drive depending on the answer.
My usual comment - that everyone will ignore - is that the meter box is for the supplier's use, not the householder. I realise many installs are done that way, but it will lead to issues in the future.Test driving a Polestar 2 shortly, I'll see if the salesperson can give me any advice. Could be a short test drive depending on the answer.
No particular experience of EV salespeople, but I wouldn't think they can give you much advice
As to the other poster and cable length... Assuming we are talking cable length between the consumer unit and the EVSE, I can't see there being a practical limit to cable length. You (or your installer) can calculate the cable CSA so that the volt drop is acceptable. The sub is going to be 500-1000m away, maybe more, and that arrives as 230V without issue.
mikeiow said:
rog007 said:
thebraketester said:
I am looking to pay 1400ish all in for the Andersen because it's the only one that doesn't look like utter crap.
100% satisfaction here with the Andersen, both for aesthetics and usability/reliability. Had it some 5 months now (connecting to a Model Y).I know Andersen didn’t have any of that 3 years ago. Not sure if they do now?
On the looks think..l know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I’m no Jony Ive, but I don’t think the Zappi is desperately ugly!
I do love that the cable wraps around neatly - we charge anything from 1 to 4 times a week, that is a lot of faffing about if the cable isn’t tethered!
No ideas for a name said:
My usual comment - that everyone will ignore - is that the meter box is for the supplier's use, not the householder. I realise many installs are done that way, but it will lead to issues in the future.
No particular experience of EV salespeople, but I wouldn't think they can give you much advice
As to the other poster and cable length... Assuming we are talking cable length between the consumer unit and the EVSE, I can't see there being a practical limit to cable length. You (or your installer) can calculate the cable CSA so that the volt drop is acceptable. The sub is going to be 500-1000m away, maybe more, and that arrives as 230V without issue.
I’m talking meter box to charge point. No particular experience of EV salespeople, but I wouldn't think they can give you much advice
As to the other poster and cable length... Assuming we are talking cable length between the consumer unit and the EVSE, I can't see there being a practical limit to cable length. You (or your installer) can calculate the cable CSA so that the volt drop is acceptable. The sub is going to be 500-1000m away, maybe more, and that arrives as 230V without issue.
Car will be parked right next to the charger so no issue there.
Hackney said:
No ideas for a name said:
My usual comment - that everyone will ignore - is that the meter box is for the supplier's use, not the householder. I realise many installs are done that way, but it will lead to issues in the future.
No particular experience of EV salespeople, but I wouldn't think they can give you much advice
As to the other poster and cable length... Assuming we are talking cable length between the consumer unit and the EVSE, I can't see there being a practical limit to cable length. You (or your installer) can calculate the cable CSA so that the volt drop is acceptable. The sub is going to be 500-1000m away, maybe more, and that arrives as 230V without issue.
I’m talking meter box to charge point. No particular experience of EV salespeople, but I wouldn't think they can give you much advice
As to the other poster and cable length... Assuming we are talking cable length between the consumer unit and the EVSE, I can't see there being a practical limit to cable length. You (or your installer) can calculate the cable CSA so that the volt drop is acceptable. The sub is going to be 500-1000m away, maybe more, and that arrives as 230V without issue.
Car will be parked right next to the charger so no issue there.
thebraketester said:
Does anyone have the Andersen with a single cable installation. By that I mean a combined power and data cable (for the adaptive fuse) rather than a power cable and separate Ethernet cable.
Thanks
Well that’s a shower of sThanks
te from Andersen. They will not perform a single cable install. thebraketester said:
Well that’s a shower of ste from Andersen. They will not perform a single cable install.
Wtf - isn’t there a type of cable available that is for exactly this purpose?!te from Andersen. They will not perform a single cable install. You’d think with a product very much focused on clean looks they’d have wanted to make the install as clean as possible too
Toaster Pilot said:
thebraketester said:
Well that’s a shower of ste from Andersen. They will not perform a single cable install.
Wtf - isn’t there a type of cable available that is for exactly this purpose?!te from Andersen. They will not perform a single cable install. You’d think with a product very much focused on clean looks they’d have wanted to make the install as clean as possible too
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