Which home charging point?

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ZesPak

24,436 posts

197 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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That looks superclean! Must be the smallest charger I've seen.

I do like the fixed cord on mine though.

Moley RUFC

3,621 posts

190 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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ZesPak said:
That looks superclean! Must be the smallest charger I've seen.

I do like the fixed cord on mine though.
Very pleased. No sign at all once it gets around the side wall.




mathmos

720 posts

175 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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I had a few different quotes for the EO, Podpoint and Rolec devices and eventually went with the podpoint one, it was coming in at just over 500 from direct from the podpoint site.

Just need a car now....

robbieduncan

1,981 posts

237 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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ZesPak said:
I do like the fixed cord on mine though.
You might be able to tell the charger to permanently lock the cable at the charger end via the app (which can later unlock it obviously). I have that set on my charger so it's effectively tethered but with the advantage that I can change the cable if it gets damaged or a I want a longer one

ZesPak

24,436 posts

197 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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That's a good point! I'd prefer a downward facing plug then though, but then it'd be harder to plug it in every time.

jms1

225 posts

197 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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Ken Figenus said:
Thanks Frimley - many valid points.

However when you consider a consumer unit with MCB's and an RCD will cost under £100 it still looks like profiteering to me. And even my BBQ has wi-fi and an app! I remember an awful lot of variety in my quotes for PV installation ten years ago when it was all new too - market forces...

I'm looking at an i3 and this will charge up overnight pulling 13A so this big charging point expense may well be able to be avoided - it ruins the maths!
I’ve said it before that I believe that there are many instances where the OLEV grant is being exploited by overly high installation fees. Just like the any government scheme (Bounce Back loans being the latest scam as people use them to fund toys etc), there’s a,ways people looking to exploit the money on offer.I had my EO mini installed by my local electrician for £120 and bought my EO Mini from an electrical wholesaler for £350. £470 all-in and no OLEV grant/faff involved.

My Tesla M3P charges faultlessly and after getting a coiled Type 2 lead, it’s easy to plug in and use. Hope you get sorted. Love the i3 by the way.

wassap

81 posts

251 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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jms1 said:
I’ve said it before that I believe that there are many instances where the OLEV grant is being exploited by overly high installation fees. Just like the any government scheme (Bounce Back loans being the latest scam as people use them to fund toys etc), there’s a,ways people looking to exploit the money on offer.I had my EO mini installed by my local electrician for £120 and bought my EO Mini from an electrical wholesaler for £350. £470 all-in and no OLEV grant/faff involved.

The rip of price is in the charger imo. the install costs arent too bad in most cases. Your £120 cost to install was cheap, esp if you consider the installer has to notify building control and certify etc.



robbieduncan

1,981 posts

237 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Maybe the chargers are expensive. But I do think you get what you pay for. I have just had to have a chat with Easee support as I setup my account with a leading zero on my phone number which then screwed up authentication for RFID tags to activate the charger. Quick email and it’s sorted. Excellent support from Norway (in English). I’d highly recommend the charger (and company) so far.

jgrewal

762 posts

48 months

Thursday 30th July 2020
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Hi Guys,

In the spirit of the current topic I want to understand if I am getting overcharged - may I check if my quote is reasonable? I will get a comparative quotation my but please see my first quote for ohme charger fitted. Told its a reasonably straight forward install with details below:

Supply And Install Ohme (7.2kW output) With Matt:E for £784.00 after OLEV Grant Deducted

Feedback appreciated!

Thanks

J

robbieduncan

1,981 posts

237 months

Saturday 1st August 2020
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jgrewal said:
Hi Guys,

In the spirit of the current topic I want to understand if I am getting overcharged - may I check if my quote is reasonable? I will get a comparative quotation my but please see my first quote for ohme charger fitted. Told its a reasonably straight forward install with details below:

Supply And Install Ohme (7.2kW output) With Matt:E for £784.00 after OLEV Grant Deducted

Feedback appreciated!

Thanks

J
It’s slightly less than what I paid...

jgrewal

762 posts

48 months

Tuesday 4th August 2020
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robbieduncan said:
It’s slightly less than what I paid...
Thanks mate - gives me the confidence booked in now!

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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I paid £520 but it’s inside, just a 4m run from a spare 32A breaker.

TheRainMaker

6,349 posts

243 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Moley RUFC said:
Very pleased. No sign at all once it gets around the side wall.


Whoever did that, did a really nice job.

I can't stand wonky cables paperbag

Moley RUFC

3,621 posts

190 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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Thanks... I’m really pleased with it. The company that installed it were Stratford Energy.

Throttle Body

444 posts

174 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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This thread is very helpful. I have a couple of questions about the smartness of the chargers.

First, they need to be connected to the Internet, so do they do this through the mobile phone network or through the household WiFi? I ask because my WiFi won't reach the place I intend to locate the charger.

Second, is there any prospect of the Government taxing the electricity used through smart chargers? If so, am I better off with a cheap non-smart charger which can't communicate my ev energy usage?

robbieduncan

1,981 posts

237 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Throttle Body said:
This thread is very helpful. I have a couple of questions about the smartness of the chargers.

First, they need to be connected to the Internet, so do they do this through the mobile phone network or through the household WiFi? I ask because my WiFi won't reach the place I intend to locate the charger.

Second, is there any prospect of the Government taxing the electricity used through smart chargers? If so, am I better off with a cheap non-smart charger which can't communicate my ev energy usage?
Mine does both/either. It will connect to WiFi (and in my case does) but also has a SIM in it with lifetime data from the manufacturer. Any prospect? It's not been discussed by Government that I am aware of and would be a minefield. If brought in you have to assume non-smart chargers would attract a static charge which might cost your more if you are doing relatively few miles. I think it's more likely a charge per mile via cameras/GPS is more likely. Especially if double checked at MOT

Throttle Body

444 posts

174 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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robbieduncan said:
Mine does both/either. It will connect to WiFi (and in my case does) but also has a SIM in it with lifetime data from the manufacturer. Any prospect? It's not been discussed by Government that I am aware of and would be a minefield. If brought in you have to assume non-smart chargers would attract a static charge which might cost your more if you are doing relatively few miles. I think it's more likely a charge per mile via cameras/GPS is more likely. Especially if double checked at MOT
Thank you. I'll check on the Internet connection with some of the suppliers.

Toaster Pilot

14,621 posts

159 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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I’m looking at having a charger installed but don’t think I’m eligible for the OLEV Grant - I don’t have off road parking (but park directly outside the house where the charger would be installed, on a private road)

What’s the best way to not get completely robbed for an installation? It’s a very short run to the consumer unit / meter, couple of metres. Modern wiring, 100A fuse, isolator already fitted etc.

Feasible to pay a little bit less than the quoted price + the £350 grant I’m not eligible for?

wassap

81 posts

251 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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How handy are you? If you are, do the cable install yourself and mount the unit to the wall. Then get in a spark to fit a small consumer unit and hook it up to the supply. If you get a recent pod point you don’t need to get a earth rod fitted which makes the install a lot easier.

Toaster Pilot

14,621 posts

159 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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wassap said:
How handy are you? If you are, do the cable install yourself and mount the unit to the wall. Then get in a spark to fit a small consumer unit and hook it up to the supply. If you get a recent pod point you don’t need to get a earth rod fitted which makes the install a lot easier.
I don’t fancy that option much, see too many stories of house fires caused by chargers I assume were installed by competent people to even think about DIY!

Does anyone have an Andersen charger? (yeah, I know, they’re expensive) Do you need to fully unwind the cable every time you use it?