What’s this then? EV Power sockets on houses with no drive?
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These new houses are extremely badly designed. Look at the porch - who is responsible for maintaining that, you or your neighbour? It's just an argument waiting to start.
Those chargers are completely useless. Even if you could get them over the pavement somehow you really want a tethered one anyway - no faffing about getting the cable out every time.
I see there is also zero security, so no way to prevent anyone else just plugging in and stealing your electricity.
Those chargers are completely useless. Even if you could get them over the pavement somehow you really want a tethered one anyway - no faffing about getting the cable out every time.
I see there is also zero security, so no way to prevent anyone else just plugging in and stealing your electricity.
kuro68k said:
These new houses are extremely badly designed. Look at the porch - who is responsible for maintaining that, you or your neighbour? It's just an argument waiting to start.
Those chargers are completely useless. Even if you could get them over the pavement somehow you really want a tethered one anyway - no faffing about getting the cable out every time.
I see there is also zero security, so no way to prevent anyone else just plugging in and stealing your electricity.
I think you'll find the porch design the least of your concerns with most new build houses. In fact, the porch maintenance is a relatively simply responsibility matter.Those chargers are completely useless. Even if you could get them over the pavement somehow you really want a tethered one anyway - no faffing about getting the cable out every time.
I see there is also zero security, so no way to prevent anyone else just plugging in and stealing your electricity.
Re the chargers, in essence it is to pass a planning requirement. Nothing more. They arguable are of use to mow the front lawn, but that wouldn't have been their intention. Re security of these, they will be on a switch inside the property, so available to turn on/off at will, so not simply a case of people being able to plug in and use your electricity.
kuro68k said:
I see there is also zero security, so no way to prevent anyone else just plugging in and stealing your electricity.
TBH, charging at approximately 2kW off a 3 pin socket, means it will take about 30p an hour in "theft". A Tesla 100kWh would be there for nearly 50 hours, all for £15...SCEtoAUX said:
House builders only care about one thing and it isn't green transport.
Exactly. They will get a kickback for this and that's all that matters.kuro68k said:
Those chargers are completely useless. Even if you could get them over the pavement somehow you really want a tethered one anyway - no faffing about getting the cable out every time.
I see there is also zero security, so no way to prevent anyone else just plugging in and stealing your electricity.
Plenty of people buy untethered chargers and use a cable. Looks a lot better than a cable wrapped around exposed to the elements. There are few tethered chargers that actually look halfway decent, I only know of a couple and both are at least twice as expensive as the likes of Rolec, Pod-point, etc.I see there is also zero security, so no way to prevent anyone else just plugging in and stealing your electricity.
Also I seriously doubt charger security and people stealing electricity is actually a real thing, certainly not at the moment anyway. Anyone daring to do that could find themselves with a cable that was chopped in two.
Durzel said:
Plenty of people buy untethered chargers and use a cable. Looks a lot better than a cable wrapped around exposed to the elements. There are few tethered chargers that actually look halfway decent, I only know of a couple and both are at least twice as expensive as the likes of Rolec, Pod-point, etc.
Also I seriously doubt charger security and people stealing electricity is actually a real thing, certainly not at the moment anyway. Anyone daring to do that could find themselves with a cable that was chopped in two.
The tethered ones have a holster for the plug, if you leave it flapping the in the breeze you are doing it wrong.Also I seriously doubt charger security and people stealing electricity is actually a real thing, certainly not at the moment anyway. Anyone daring to do that could find themselves with a cable that was chopped in two.
Charger security is a slowly increasing issue. In the early days people had a few issues with their home chargers accidentally getting added to maps as public chargers. In the future people will likely want a simple key, especially when they go away on holiday.
The other issue with non-tethered chargers is cable theft. The charger usually only locks while charging, and cars on a timer often don't lock the cable in outside of the charge time. Again, this will become more of an issue as time goes on.
kuro68k said:
The tethered ones have a holster for the plug, if you leave it flapping the in the breeze you are doing it wrong.
Charger security is a slowly increasing issue. In the early days people had a few issues with their home chargers accidentally getting added to maps as public chargers. In the future people will likely want a simple key, especially when they go away on holiday.
The other issue with non-tethered chargers is cable theft. The charger usually only locks while charging, and cars on a timer often don't lock the cable in outside of the charge time. Again, this will become more of an issue as time goes on.
security is a problem for my rolec unit, i specifically asked for a charger that i could software lock as anyone could plug into it and was promised this was the case with the rolec unit. but its notCharger security is a slowly increasing issue. In the early days people had a few issues with their home chargers accidentally getting added to maps as public chargers. In the future people will likely want a simple key, especially when they go away on holiday.
The other issue with non-tethered chargers is cable theft. The charger usually only locks while charging, and cars on a timer often don't lock the cable in outside of the charge time. Again, this will become more of an issue as time goes on.
probably not an issue atm as there are only 2 EVs in my village but in time it defiantly will be so i will have to replace, if i can find a unit that can be software locked ...
kuro68k said:
The tethered ones have a holster for the plug, if you leave it flapping the in the breeze you are doing it wrong.
Charger security is a slowly increasing issue. In the early days people had a few issues with their home chargers accidentally getting added to maps as public chargers. In the future people will likely want a simple key, especially when they go away on holiday.
The other issue with non-tethered chargers is cable theft. The charger usually only locks while charging, and cars on a timer often don't lock the cable in outside of the charge time. Again, this will become more of an issue as time goes on.
Let's be honest, someone sitting on your 7kW charger is only drawing £1.05 an hour, hardly the crime of the century...Charger security is a slowly increasing issue. In the early days people had a few issues with their home chargers accidentally getting added to maps as public chargers. In the future people will likely want a simple key, especially when they go away on holiday.
The other issue with non-tethered chargers is cable theft. The charger usually only locks while charging, and cars on a timer often don't lock the cable in outside of the charge time. Again, this will become more of an issue as time goes on.
My chargemaster wall unit has a simple key to power it off, but probably better to just switch the isolator on your consumer panel.
Cable theft could be an issue, but I'd rather the cable was nicked than damage to my car or charger. But a simple steel security cable can be fixed to cable and a suitable anchor, even on an untethered unit.
Krikkit said:
Plenty of charging cables available which have non-trip features like covered trunking and even LED lighting to mark them out.
Led light won't be much use to the blind!The passed a law saying EVs have to make a sound at low speed for the safety of the disabled, I imagine pavements strewn with small bumps may also be challenged by disability rights groups.
Evanivitch said:
Locked does mean cannot be forcibly removed! Which will probably result in a large bill for both charger and vehicle owner.
Which in my mind is no more or less likely than a car being keyed, the valve caps stolen or any other kind of vandalism. Certainly not a reason to not charge an electric car on the street.MrBig said:
Evanivitch said:
Locked does mean cannot be forcibly removed! Which will probably result in a large bill for both charger and vehicle owner.
Which in my mind is no more or less likely than a car being keyed, the valve caps stolen or any other kind of vandalism. Certainly not a reason to not charge an electric car on the street.
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