Mini Electric ordered
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I think this will be a well polished EV car. Not the cheapest but you pay for what you get quality wise I would say. Buy British is quite important now as well considering Brexit. That seems so old fashioned to say, though true. Oh those politicians...
Getting back to the point ...
Keep us posted on how it goes on, variety is the spice of life in the EV world.
I did the same last week. What spec did you go for?
I went for Level 2 in BRG with 17" Black Cosmos wheels and black mirrors/roof.
Initially was going to go for the Electric Corona wheels, but thought that after a while the novelty of these would fade.
Whilst I like the green color, not sure thry should have kept calling it BRG, as it is considerably lighter than the original color.
I went for Level 2 in BRG with 17" Black Cosmos wheels and black mirrors/roof.
Initially was going to go for the Electric Corona wheels, but thought that after a while the novelty of these would fade.
Whilst I like the green color, not sure thry should have kept calling it BRG, as it is considerably lighter than the original color.
chirst said:
I did the same last week. What spec did you go for?
I went for Level 2 in BRG with 17" Black Cosmos wheels and black mirrors/roof.
Initially was going to go for the Electric Corona wheels, but thought that after a while the novelty of these would fade.
Whilst I like the green color, not sure thry should have kept calling it BRG, as it is considerably lighter than the original color.
Also went for level 2 wanted the yellow highlights and selected black exterior. After long debate went full in with the electric wheels as well!!I went for Level 2 in BRG with 17" Black Cosmos wheels and black mirrors/roof.
Initially was going to go for the Electric Corona wheels, but thought that after a while the novelty of these would fade.
Whilst I like the green color, not sure thry should have kept calling it BRG, as it is considerably lighter than the original color.
Mother in law will almost certainly get one, before her Zoe and now Leaf she had a Mini.
Pricing actually does look sensible, infact even 'cheap' when Hyundai want £30k+ for a Kona. The range is fine on the Mini for what its going to be used for.
I can see this selling very well, much better value than alot of other EVs on the market. Better value and Mini are two words I never thought I would use in the same sentence!!
£24k for a Mini or for the same price you can get a MG, or £6k+ more for a Hyundai, I wonder which car is going to sell....
Pricing actually does look sensible, infact even 'cheap' when Hyundai want £30k+ for a Kona. The range is fine on the Mini for what its going to be used for.
I can see this selling very well, much better value than alot of other EVs on the market. Better value and Mini are two words I never thought I would use in the same sentence!!
£24k for a Mini or for the same price you can get a MG, or £6k+ more for a Hyundai, I wonder which car is going to sell....
I know range isn’t everything, but surely it counts for a lot in the ev world? This MINI ev will launch in 2020 offering ‘up to 140 miles range’ so a real range of say circa 100-110 miles. The Kona gives up to 260 miles, the MG 160 to 230.
MINI looks good, but surely just doing a fur coat and no knickers dance with a range that hardly beats the 4 year old BMW 94ah model? Would have thought BMW could do better than this
MINI looks good, but surely just doing a fur coat and no knickers dance with a range that hardly beats the 4 year old BMW 94ah model? Would have thought BMW could do better than this
connoisseur21 said:
I know range isn’t everything, but surely it counts for a lot in the ev world? This MINI ev will launch in 2020 offering ‘up to 140 miles range’ so a real range of say circa 100-110 miles. The Kona gives up to 260 miles, the MG 160 to 230.
MINI looks good, but surely just doing a fur coat and no knickers dance with a range that hardly beats the 4 year old BMW 94ah model? Would have thought BMW could do better than this
Have to agree. I quite like the look of this as a replacement for my wife. (Well, to replace her current car!)MINI looks good, but surely just doing a fur coat and no knickers dance with a range that hardly beats the 4 year old BMW 94ah model? Would have thought BMW could do better than this
She doesn’t often do more than 150 miles in a day and the odd time she does we’ve got another car.
She does regularly do up to 120 miles in a single trip out and back, in areas not flush with chargers, even if working.
How do we know what a real world, worst conditions, range will be?
connoisseur21 said:
I know range isn’t everything, but surely it counts for a lot in the ev world?
Only to a point, and actually if you really needs loads of range 140 and 260 makes little difference, you need 400-500 miles which doesn't exist.In which case you will end up paying ££££ for range you rarely use, hence how we end up in the ridiculous situation where a car with a Hyundai badge is nearly £10k more expensive than one with a Mini badge.
Our EV is 200 miles real world range, done 40k now in 2.5 years, I've gone down from 100-3% on one trip, even in a 150 mile range EV we would have been fine for 99% of the 40k. Going up to 300 miles range will have made little difference to how we use our car.
At 400 miles range it will have enabled us to do three work trips which we did this year in the combustion car.
The point of range is for most people its a case of diminishing returns, for most people paying for extra range you only use once in a while is a waste of money.
Again who here would honestly say they are happy to pay £10k for a Hyundai EV if a Mini EV had the range covered 99% of their daily/routine usage.
Understood, but the real world range of the MINI in autumn/ winter, even with plugged in preconditioning where possible, is likely to be <100 miles which will only create range uncertainty at a time when lower cost ev’s, with more space, equivalent or better spec, offer much more.
A well specced MINI electric is £35k otr; for a maximum in summer, preconditioned, plenty of regen (no fast, smooth running roads) of 140 ish miles, £35k won’t cut it in 2020. Some people will buy it of course........
A well specced MINI electric is £35k otr; for a maximum in summer, preconditioned, plenty of regen (no fast, smooth running roads) of 140 ish miles, £35k won’t cut it in 2020. Some people will buy it of course........
connoisseur21 said:
Understood, but the real world range of the MINI in autumn/ winter, even with plugged in preconditioning where possible, is likely to be <100 miles which will only create range uncertainty at a time when lower cost ev’s, with more space, equivalent or better spec, offer much more.
A well specced MINI electric is £35k otr; for a maximum in summer, preconditioned, plenty of regen (no fast, smooth running roads) of 140 ish miles, £35k won’t cut it in 2020. Some people will buy it of course........
It’s cheating to say the mini is £35k and there are lots cheaper. (1) it’s not £35k unless you are trying skew the comparison (2) there isn’t a huge selection of cheaper EVs. A well specced MINI electric is £35k otr; for a maximum in summer, preconditioned, plenty of regen (no fast, smooth running roads) of 140 ish miles, £35k won’t cut it in 2020. Some people will buy it of course........
On the point of Range; there are going to be plenty of families who don’t need two cars with high range. I cannot think of any event ever where my wife and I drove separately to places any great distance from home
connoisseur21 said:
Understood, but the real world range of the MINI in autumn/ winter, even with plugged in preconditioning where possible, is likely to be <100 miles which will only create range uncertainty at a time when lower cost ev’s, with more space, equivalent or better spec, offer much more.
A well specced MINI electric is £35k otr; for a maximum in summer, preconditioned, plenty of regen (no fast, smooth running roads) of 140 ish miles, £35k won’t cut it in 2020. Some people will buy it of course........
£35k which price list are you looking at! Level 2 which is great spec £26400. A well specced MINI electric is £35k otr; for a maximum in summer, preconditioned, plenty of regen (no fast, smooth running roads) of 140 ish miles, £35k won’t cut it in 2020. Some people will buy it of course........
I like the idea, but as with all smaller EV's I find them hard to justify.
They are clearly made with people that don't drive that much in mind, and usually a lot more expensive than their petrol counterparts.
You'll never get your extra spend back.
BUT, all new cars cost a lot of money and if you would need to get an electric car you could do a lot worse I think. Tbh, it's starting price
In the end, I would pick the sensible choice and go for the Ioniq/Kona, after a couple of options price will probably be the same.
I feel like the range of the MINI would require another car a bit too often, while the Kona would get 99% of all driving done.
PS: I don't want to sound all negative, but 7.6 seconds is brisk, but not all that fast? Feels like they could have done more?
They are clearly made with people that don't drive that much in mind, and usually a lot more expensive than their petrol counterparts.
You'll never get your extra spend back.
BUT, all new cars cost a lot of money and if you would need to get an electric car you could do a lot worse I think. Tbh, it's starting price
In the end, I would pick the sensible choice and go for the Ioniq/Kona, after a couple of options price will probably be the same.
I feel like the range of the MINI would require another car a bit too often, while the Kona would get 99% of all driving done.
PS: I don't want to sound all negative, but 7.6 seconds is brisk, but not all that fast? Feels like they could have done more?
ZesPak said:
PS: I don't want to sound all negative, but 7.6 seconds is brisk, but not all that fast? Feels like they could have done more?
Similar power/performance to the current i3. If it's anything like the i3 then that 0-60 doesn't really tell the story, it feels quite a bit quicker and the 0-30 and 30-50 performance which is used more regularly around town and when overtaking slow moving traffic is more than enough for most drivers due to how well the car responds to accelerator inputs.For example I guarantee it'll keep up with cars like the Fiesta ST, Cooper S in 99% of circumstances, both of which look quicker on paper so more than good enough for a city car.
cc3 said:
£35k which price list are you looking at! Level 2 which is great spec £26400.
Yep that was a bit unfair, it's £24k for the entry level which is a crap load for MINI but in EV terms similar to the Zoe so kind of acceptable. £35k would be absolute madness for anyone to pay, pretty sure you won't have to pay list price unless they strangle supply.Might be a good 2nd hand buy in a couple of years but I haven't seen a single road test nor any proper test of the charging / range yet and I don't believe any of the manufacturers figures as they seem to be just as fast and loose as the MPG figures they put out for ICE cars.
OP, is this a 2nd car for you?
gangzoom said:
Only to a point, and actually if you really needs loads of range 140 and 260 makes little difference, you need 400-500 miles which doesn't exist.
In which case you will end up paying ££££ for range you rarely use, hence how we end up in the ridiculous situation where a car with a Hyundai badge is nearly £10k more expensive than one with a Mini badge.
Our EV is 200 miles real world range, done 40k now in 2.5 years, I've gone down from 100-3% on one trip, even in a 150 mile range EV we would have been fine for 99% of the 40k. Going up to 300 miles range will have made little difference to how we use our car.
At 400 miles range it will have enabled us to do three work trips which we did this year in the combustion car.
The point of range is for most people its a case of diminishing returns, for most people paying for extra range you only use once in a while is a waste of money.
Again who here would honestly say they are happy to pay £10k for a Hyundai EV if a Mini EV had the range covered 99% of their daily/routine usage.
Yes you have a 200 mile range EV with a 100KWh battery I want one to and not settle for less, BMW should have done better.In which case you will end up paying ££££ for range you rarely use, hence how we end up in the ridiculous situation where a car with a Hyundai badge is nearly £10k more expensive than one with a Mini badge.
Our EV is 200 miles real world range, done 40k now in 2.5 years, I've gone down from 100-3% on one trip, even in a 150 mile range EV we would have been fine for 99% of the 40k. Going up to 300 miles range will have made little difference to how we use our car.
At 400 miles range it will have enabled us to do three work trips which we did this year in the combustion car.
The point of range is for most people its a case of diminishing returns, for most people paying for extra range you only use once in a while is a waste of money.
Again who here would honestly say they are happy to pay £10k for a Hyundai EV if a Mini EV had the range covered 99% of their daily/routine usage.
Bigger battery gives reassurance, more charging flexibility, is cycled more slowly for longer life. Certainly I expect to make a cash purchase and keep the car 10 years plus. Have had the Leaf 6 years now. A larger battery would allow me to take advantage of free work charging and consume it over the weekend.
Smiljan said:
Yep that was a bit unfair, it's £24k for the entry level which is a crap load for MINI but in EV terms similar to the Zoe so kind of acceptable. £35k would be absolute madness for anyone to pay, pretty sure you won't have to pay list price unless they strangle supply.
You say that, but have you seen what Vauxhall are looking to charge for the Corsa E? Starting price of £27k with the grant included.Now that would be madness.
granada203028 said:
Yes you have a 200 mile range EV with a 100KWh battery I want one to and not settle for less, BMW should have done better.
Bigger battery gives reassurance, more charging flexibility, is cycled more slowly for longer life. Certainly I expect to make a cash purchase and keep the car 10 years plus. Have had the Leaf 6 years now. A larger battery would allow me to take advantage of free work charging and consume it over the weekend.
Nothing stopping you buying a Hyundai Kona EV for £35k, paying £10k more for a Hyundai compared to a Mini, not sure I would.Bigger battery gives reassurance, more charging flexibility, is cycled more slowly for longer life. Certainly I expect to make a cash purchase and keep the car 10 years plus. Have had the Leaf 6 years now. A larger battery would allow me to take advantage of free work charging and consume it over the weekend.
We actually bought a 60kWh Model X, there was a 100kWh version but based on our usage it was an extra £16k for range we would rarely use, 40k miles later I still wouldn't pay £16k for the bigger battery version, there are better ways to waste £16k.
Every one wants more range, and you can have it if you want to pay for it, but for most people your paying for something your rarely use.
Again, £35k Hyundai Kona EV versus £24k Mini EV, there is only one overpriced car in that pair and for once its not the Mini!
Edited by gangzoom on Sunday 13th October 21:53
gangzoom said:
Again, £35k Hyundai Kona EV versus £24k Mini EV, there is only one overpriced car in that pair and for once its not the Mini!
- from that comment I gather you've never configured an Asian car vs a German one
- the hyundai has similar performance but TWICE the range
- the hyundai is actually an entire class bigger, much closer to the Clubman than the MINI
- the kona has been generally well received, the mini hasn't gotten any reviews out
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